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  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    If you suspect thyroid problems then you need to go to a doctor. You also need to make sure you're accurately measuring your food, I was over-estimating my food for the longest time until I bit the bullet and got a good kitchen scale.

    If WALKING makes you hurt all over then you're probably really unfit and should try to walk every day to build up your cardiac fitness. There's no use being skinny if you drop dead of a heart attack running after a bus.

    I hated running. HATED it. I forced myself into doing c25k eight months ago and I am only JUST starting to enjoy running. I don't do it because it's fun, or because it's easy. It's hard, you sweat, you get shin splints, you want to cry, you wheeze and struggle. But when you finish it, you feel like you've achieved something and when the weight starts to come off.... That's when it's worth it.

    Talk about overestimating!! I can't imagine how many calories i was eating before MFP. it's not any wonder i've gained weight. i kind of starting limiting things at first, but once i joined this site i was completely struck at the calories that are in things.
    It's hard, you sweat, you get shin splints, you want to cry, you wheeze and struggle. But when you finish it, you feel like you've achieved something and when the weight starts to come off.... That's when it's worth it.

    SOOOO true. I completely agree with this. when i was running before (ALMOST C25K ready) this is exactly how i felt...so yeah...bottom line...i have to keep trying as much as it sucks...
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    @Adini: Because i hate ALL of it. i hate running/jogging gives me shin splints/red face/heart rate out of control/legs hurt/can't breathe. Lifting? Every single i do it i'm sore FOR DAYS. every. single. time. how can i go for a walk or jog the next day when i can barely move?? not many recreational sports for 28 year old females...unless i join one of the 1,000 mens softball leagues...

    Classic mistake -- too much, too soon; you have to EASE into exercise. My husband has been exercising for years, but he STILL does this; I'm not sure why. He doesn't weight train for IDK, a month and then he lifts HEAVY and HARD like he was never off...that doesn't work

    You can't LEAP into exercise; it's not a ALL or nothing; start SLOW-LY...I mean REAL slow. Try walking at 2 miles/hour for 15 minutes; you're okay the next day? Walk again at 2 mph for 15 minutes; do this for a week...you doing good with this bump it up to 2.5 mph or bump it to 20 minutes (NOT both) the next week. Contrary to belief you can't just jump in the deep end to learn how to swim...you just wind up drowning.

    With weight training; try once per week with no weights; did I just say NO weights??? YES I DID. NO WEIGHTS. You can use your own resistance to start your muscles learning the moves and YES you actually gain muscle and toning by doing this. I still use this method and other do to. Start off with something easy; you can do 1 set of each exercise 12 reps (NO WEIGHTS)

    Chest -- Wall Push-ups (just like it says; lean against the wall and do push ups against it)

    Example below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RtM3L00BUU

    Back -- Rows (put your fists in front of you; arms should width apart and pull back like you're trying to make your elbows touch behind you, then push forward again)

    Example below but you do them w/out the bands

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3LNu_GcgDc

    Butt - Butt crunches (my fave; lay on your back knees bent at and feet flat on the floor; lift your butt off the floor while squeezing your cheeks and keep squeezing as you lower -- protect your lower back and keep your tummy sucked in, but BREATH)

    Example (some rambunctious kids...do it slower)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOCutw8Cj8Q

    Shoulders -- over head press (make a T with your arms, bend at your elbows; like your a football goal post, press up and lower; your hands should not drop lower than your shoulders)

    Example (except you do without the bands)

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6dq5e_overhead-press-exercise-tips_news

    Bicep Curls -- You can do these with both arms together or alternating

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/dumbbell-alternate-bicep-curl

    Tricep Kickbacks -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UIZLA5yhiA

    ABS -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjet7LwKjyA

    Remember Form is THE most important (not the number of reps and never the amount of weight...but you will be starting with NO WEIGHT)

    Friend me if you'd like other suggestions after you get going......Good Luck!!! I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT!!!!


    i think i should friend you anyway just based on principle since you just wrote that whole thing out for me. <3<3
  • We cannot help those who are not willing to do the work, to get what they want.
  • ^ yeah...i KNOW i need to exercise, and i KNOW that when i do, i feel absolutely amazing...but if i stop for two days, i get back in a rut again. and sometimes if i lose weight i'll say "okay i can afford a bag of chips now" I NEED TO STOP DOING THAT. thanks for your reply :)

    About them chips and all other eatable rewards. ; )

    My motto is YOU ARE NOT A DOG, DO DON'T REWARD YOURSELF WITH FOOD!

    And if you really want to lose weight you will push through sore muscles, being red in the face, soaking in sweat, huffing and puffing and heart rate out of control! If you think it's thyroid - go get it checked to eliminate that excuse.

    But that's if you really want to lose weight.

    So until you decide that that's what you really want to do no one can convince you otherwise. Our small cheers such as "keep it up" and "don't give up" and "you can do it" mean absolutely nothing until those are actual little voices in your own head.
  • I know a lot of people have said it, and we've ALL heard it before, but weight loss and "the way we look" is (approximately) 80% diet, 20% exercise. Of COURSE exercise helps weight come off quicker and lifting helps to tone, tighten, etc. ... but the majority of it is DONE IN THE KITCHEN. And contrary to what some people say, calories AREN'T created equally. If you stay 'under' your calories but aren't eating well, it DOES matter. Make sure you are looking at everything you eat and drink. Try to get most of your calories from lean proteins, fruits, veggies. Eat foods that keep you full (anything with PROTEIN) - greek yogurt, nuts, chicken, beans, etc.). There is SO much that has to do with nutrition that I think will help you out!! Message me if you want to chat :) I don't claim to "know it all", and I definitely think that there are different things that work for different people, and what works for one of us might not work for everyone. Personally, I'm a "normal" woman with two kids (ages 7 and 2) living an active, healthy life. I'm not training for a fitness competition or trying to have a "perfect" body ... I eat dessert EVERY night and drink red wine! But I'm committed to eating healthy, teaching my kids what is right, and exercising daily!
  • tigertchr23
    tigertchr23 Posts: 418 Member
    Have you tried just doing something you do love? Dancing? Swimming? Jump rope? Playing Wii? Walking to the store instead of driving? Hiking in the woods?

    Exercise doesn't have to be running or working out at the gym. You can do it everywhere. I enjoy dancing so many days I do "Just Dance" game on Wii or "Dance Central" on XBOX. I also started going to Zumba classes at the gym. If you don't feel coordinated enough to dance in front of other people, you can get dancing/cardio DVDs to do them at home. Or just turn on some music and dance around the house by yourself. No one has to know or watch! Make it fun!

    Do you have pets or kids? Take them on walks to the park or play fetch/kick a ball, etc. Exercise is everywhere and doesn't have to be torture. The important part is that once you start, you can't stop or you will be sore. As sore as you ever get at the beginning, you have to work through it. If you workout really hard one day and then lay in bed the next you will have a horrible time. I know . . . I have done it and it sucks! As hard as it is, you have to get up and get moving. Even if you just walk or stretch it is better than letting your muscles not work through the soreness.

    Best wishes :flowerforyou:
  • We cannot help those who are not willing to do the work, to get what they want.

    Ha! You pretty much said the same but in fewer words! LOL!
  • I'm not a big exercise lover either, but I tried Zumba and really love it! Also, I enjoy doing Jillian Michaels video at home, they're pretty intense but she has different levels + they don't take to much time (25-30 min). Good Luck ;)
  • Robin_Bin
    Robin_Bin Posts: 1,046 Member
    Who said running was the only way to exercise? You can walk, swim - whatever. The point is to just get moving - you can do it! You just have to want to.

    I don't want to, because I hate it with a passion. I try to tell myself "you hate it, it sucks, but it's a necessary evil that must be done. just like school and/or work. life doesn't revolve around sitting on the couch". but that lasts about 2 weeks before i quit again..
    Keep telling yourself you HATE something and sure enough you will. There's no movement you like or enjoy? Hiking, building bird houses, walking, yoga, water volleyball, seeing national monuments, gardening, tumbling, water skiing, foozeball, walking around the mall while you check out shoes...
    I had a few of those "classically terrible" gym teachers who make you think exercise or movement is something you only do when forced, but I've learned they were wrong. There are many active things I enjoy. Exercise is not all about calisthenics, and you don't need to follow the "no pain, no gain" route.
    All that said, you can lose weight without exercising. You can eat calories faster than you can exercise them off. And conversely, you can control weight more by what you eat than by exercise (except for the extremes).
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    We cannot help those who are not willing to do the work, to get what they want.

    Ha! You pretty much said the same but in fewer words! LOL!

    Then don't bother ;)
  • spiregrain
    spiregrain Posts: 254 Member
    My BFF has debilitating thyroid issues, but when I ask her she *says* that typically thyroid is only directly linked to weight gain because it can make you retain some water (less than 10 lbs). On the other hand, it can make exercise feel impossibly hard. So check that out. She has something called Hashimoto's Syndrome which can make you feel like you have severe chronic fatigue plus lots of other crap, and it's really pretty easy to treat.

    C25K -- I'm doing that. I had been recovering from an emergency c-section, so my ground zero starting point (in late October 2011) was that I couldn't even stand up because my body had basically been partially cut in half and then sewn back together. I walked around the house, then around the block, then around the block more than once, then for a half hour, then an hour, then started the Zen Labs C25K iPod app at week one, two months ago (after about 7 months of just walking). Now I can run for 30 minutes at 6 mph and it feels pretty good. I know you can do it. But try to get an app of it for your iPod or something -- it makes it a lot easier to stick with, because you don't have to think at all, or time anything.

    Whatever you do I would recommend a tiered program that gives you the plan for increasing from where you're at now, especially if it includes a fit test of some kind. Like twohundredsitups.com or C25K are good ones for that. If you are a novice to working out, these will let you start at a slower more conservative pace. People don't just go from sitting around watching TV on the sofa to being able to run marathons like it's no thing -- lots of super small steps in between make it possible.

    One thing I do sometimes too (not for my C25K, but if I feel like I was a lump all day or whatever) is run in place while I watch TV. Nice if you feel too frumpy to run outside and you don't mind a slower burn.
  • rachelnielson
    rachelnielson Posts: 9 Member
    Get positive! You can change the way you see some things if you decide to see them differently. It's so important to take charge of your outlook :-)

    I’ve had basically all the problems you mentioned. I like using a stair climber or an elliptical. Bring things to the gym/home gym to keep you from getting board. I like to listen to audio books while I play games on my iPad. That really passes the time for me.

    I would also really recommend that you get a heart rate monitor and track what rate you’re in when you exerciseing. I lose weight best when I stay at the top of heart rate zone 3 (when doing cardio). It's an easily sustainable level of exertion for me too.

    I use this monitor: http://www.wahoofitness.com/Products/Wahoo-Fitness-Wahoo-RunGym-Pack-for-iPhone.asp (got it at Best Buy)

    I love this one, but it is for the iPhone if you have Android or what have you. If you try this out, you may want to use it in combination with the Digifit app.

    You can also track your heart rate with the watch version… I almost bought this one:

    http://www.****ssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12194241&010=SKU-11341715&003=4239056&camp=CSE:GooglePLA:12194241
  • There's soooo much to try for "exercise"!

    I play pick up soccer (try meetup.com); go to free yoga at the local Lululemon, they also have a running club once a week; free salsa lessons in the park etc. etc.

    Be creative! Even dance classes are considered exercise.

    Another option is VOLUNTEERING, for example, cleaning up a park reserve. That's exercise too!!
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    Thanks ladies, I'm definitely going to try your suggestions.
  • tourettte
    tourettte Posts: 142 Member
    @Adini: Because i hate ALL of it. i hate running/jogging gives me shin splints/red face/heart rate out of control/legs hurt/can't breathe. Lifting? Every single i do it i'm sore FOR DAYS. every. single. time. how can i go for a walk or jog the next day when i can barely move?? not many recreational sports for 28 year old females...unless i join one of the 1,000 mens softball leagues...
    you sound like me 6 months ago :) I told my mom something similar. And then i started trying different things and found what works for me. Jogging wasn't an option because i have no one to do it with and only time I can do it is after 9pm (not safe for a woman), gym - too expensive for my budget, sports - I don't really like people and i try to avoid them whenever i can. So i tried some workout dvd's and Jillian was the one that i clicked with. First 25 days I was dying, sweating my heart out taking breaks all the time...I'm not taking breaks any more, I'm not that red in my face when i workout, I'm not panting as much and walking is something i look forward to in the morning.

    Try different things, who knows maybe you'll like something enough to turn it into a habit
  • RuthSweetTooth
    RuthSweetTooth Posts: 461 Member
    I love being able to measure food, beats the heck out of dirtying every measuring cup in the kitchen. Get a scale that you can switch back and forth between metric and British, mine is called escali and I bought it on Amazon.

    Ruth
    Joined MFP 4 months ago. Lost 3lbs. Seriously? On 1340 calories which i rarely go over? Then I see other people who lost 20-30 lbs in 4-6 months. I hate exercising (no i can't "find something i love doing"), possible thyroid issues, on top of horrible genetics. Fed up, but I know I can't throw in the towel...just tired of being huge. :(

    You don't have to exercise to lose weight.

    Are you logging everything? Condiments, beverages, bites off someone else's plate and all that?

    Are you measuring with a food scale?

    trust me i log evvveerryyyyttthhiinnngg even if it makes me feel like *kitten* after lol because i like to know exactly how much damage i've done.

    but no i haven't bought a food scale yet and i should. when i log my food i choose the options that don't go by grams...cause i have no concept of grams whatsoever lol

    yes, note to self: buy a food scale already!
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    I don't really like people and i try to avoid them whenever i can. So i tried some workout dvd's and Jillian was the one that i clicked with. First 25 days I was dying, sweating my heart out taking breaks all the time...I'm not taking breaks any more, I'm not that red in my face when i workout, I'm not panting as much and walking is something i look forward to in the morning.

    Try different things, who knows maybe you'll like something enough to turn it into a habit

    OMG...you had me at "I don't really like people"...friends? :drinker:

    Also when i WAS doing 30 Day Shred it was horrible, but the 2nd time i tried it it was easier....now this will be my 3rd time going back to it.. :grumble:
  • misskerouac
    misskerouac Posts: 2,242 Member
    On light exercise days I really like looking up yoga routines on YouTube and just following along the best I can.
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    On light exercise days I really like looking up yoga routines on YouTube and just following along the best I can.

    Yeah, netflix has a few decent yoga routines as well. this is not an "excuse" but just a fact...after i shattered my arm in 2005, i'm unable to extend it all the way. so if i'm in a pushup position, my right arm will stay slightly bent, so my left arm has to do the same...kind of hard to explain, but this makes yoga a bit difficult sometimes, although i like the concept of it and i can still do some of the moves, or i just do them with my arms bent instead of completely straight.
  • theecatt
    theecatt Posts: 31 Member
    @Adini: Because i hate ALL of it. i hate running/jogging gives me shin splints/red face/heart rate out of control/legs hurt/can't breathe. Lifting? Every single i do it i'm sore FOR DAYS. every. single. time. how can i go for a walk or jog the next day when i can barely move?? not many recreational sports for 28 year old females...unless i join one of the 1,000 mens softball leagues...
    Biking? I can't run either due to knee issues, but I've gone from biking a couple of miles a day to biking 100 miles/week in a few months.

    As for lifting, yes, you're sore. But then do it again 3 days later. And again. And again. Keep doing it til you're not sore. :)
  • tourettte
    tourettte Posts: 142 Member
    I don't really like people and i try to avoid them whenever i can. So i tried some workout dvd's and Jillian was the one that i clicked with. First 25 days I was dying, sweating my heart out taking breaks all the time...I'm not taking breaks any more, I'm not that red in my face when i workout, I'm not panting as much and walking is something i look forward to in the morning.

    Try different things, who knows maybe you'll like something enough to turn it into a habit

    OMG...you had me at "I don't really like people"...friends? :drinker:

    Also when i WAS doing 30 Day Shred it was horrible, but the 2nd time i tried it it was easier....now this will be my 3rd time going back to it.. :grumble:
    Friends :))

    She made me cry and very few people on this planet can do that. So I'm sticking with her :)))
    Mix it up: Use different dvd's/youtube videos. I am doing: 6week6pack because i hate my belly and what my job has done to it, 30 day shred and rip to make myself sleep better and burn fat boost metabolism because I'm a masochist and I rotate them:)))
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    I don't really like people and i try to avoid them whenever i can. So i tried some workout dvd's and Jillian was the one that i clicked with. First 25 days I was dying, sweating my heart out taking breaks all the time...I'm not taking breaks any more, I'm not that red in my face when i workout, I'm not panting as much and walking is something i look forward to in the morning.

    Try different things, who knows maybe you'll like something enough to turn it into a habit

    OMG...you had me at "I don't really like people"...friends? :drinker:

    Also when i WAS doing 30 Day Shred it was horrible, but the 2nd time i tried it it was easier....now this will be my 3rd time going back to it.. :grumble:
    Friends :))

    She made me cry and very few people on this planet can do that. So I'm sticking with her :)))
    Mix it up: Use different dvd's/youtube videos. I am doing: 6week6pack because i hate my belly and what my job has done to it, 30 day shred and rip to make myself sleep better and burn fat boost metabolism because I'm a masochist and I rotate them:)))

    i really wish i was a masochist...working out would be so much easier...
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
    If you're so sore you can't move after working out then you over did it. Let me guess, you got a personal trainer and they punished you like a dog?
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    If you're so sore you can't move after working out then you over did it. Let me guess, you got a personal trainer and they punished you like a dog?

    Jillian Michaels DVD....same thing.
  • We cannot help those who are not willing to do the work, to get what they want.

    Ha! You pretty much said the same but in fewer words! LOL!

    Then don't bother ;)

    Lauren, It seems to me like you are not really liking what you are getting in reply to your post. ; )
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    We cannot help those who are not willing to do the work, to get what they want.

    Ha! You pretty much said the same but in fewer words! LOL!

    Then don't bother ;)

    Lauren, It seems to me like you are not really liking what you are getting in reply to your post. ; )

    Aside from all the "Thank you so much, you guys are awesome, i'm definitely going to take that into consideration" responses i wrote. Right...
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
    If you're so sore you can't move after working out then you over did it. Let me guess, you got a personal trainer and they punished you like a dog?

    Jillian Michaels DVD....same thing.
    when I was 340 lbs I did some workout DVD. I don't know who it was. It was that biggest loser or something. Aside from looking like an idiot, I also ended up walking with a limp for a month. That's when I decided to do something really stupid and got into weight lifting. I started doing squats with just the bar and worked my way up. Now I can squat what I used to weigh. Just some food for thought (no pun intended).
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    If you're so sore you can't move after working out then you over did it. Let me guess, you got a personal trainer and they punished you like a dog?

    Jillian Michaels DVD....same thing.
    when I was 340 lbs I did some workout DVD. I don't know who it was. It was that biggest loser or something. Aside from looking like an idiot, I also ended up walking with a limp for a month. That's when I decided to do something really stupid and got into weight lifting. I started doing squats with just the bar and worked my way up. Now I can squat what I used to weigh. Just some food for thought (no pun intended).

    Haha thanks :) wow a whole month? that sucks. well i'm coming to know myself better especially using MFP. i know that whenever i actually feel like working out, i overdo it because i think "wow, i actually FEEL like going to the gym? i better put it to good use". and sometimes i really do feel like i can keep going or go harder, and then get hurt. i have to remember to pace myself.
  • KatiaClouse
    KatiaClouse Posts: 27 Member
    I hate exercising (no i can't "find something i love doing")

    I hate it too. Just like I hate waking up at 4:30 during the week to get ready for work. But I DO it, because it's what must be done in order to accomplish that which I need to do.
  • melpop8
    melpop8 Posts: 39 Member
    Joined MFP 4 months ago. Lost 3lbs. Seriously? On 1340 calories which i rarely go over? Then I see other people who lost 20-30 lbs in 4-6 months. I hate exercising (no i can't "find something i love doing"), possible thyroid issues, on top of horrible genetics. Fed up, but I know I can't throw in the towel...just tired of being huge. :(

    Have lots of sex?