Sibling Issues ... would like some understanding advice

If at all possible.

My sister and I have a generally good relationship (although it's been rocky in the past) --- but are pretty much polar opposites. I'm introverted and quiet, and passive -- and she's kind of the opposite. I'm also (I guess, to my estimation) more "socially awkward" then she is. She's 3 years younger than I am. This matters, because her condesending comments well, would indicate she feels some sort of dominance over me even being the younger one (speculation, not sure if that's true or not.) She's not a generally "mean" person, but she is just a different personality type than I am, I guess.

Growing up, she always had to get the best of everything first - the biggest bedroom in a new house, the front seat of the car (making me sit in the back), pretty much, she felt entitled to things that she thought were "the best", and didn't really care much about what I wanted.

Not sure if anyone is a social anxiety sufferer here, but if you truly are, then you'd understand that it takes effort and a large amount of energy in social situations just to work, just to go to school, or to commit to a social outing. Normally I can do these fine, but sometimes when i'm with my sister at these places, she kind of makes me feel more awkward and out of place. I don't believe it's intentional, but it hurts nonetheless.

So, because i'm the kind of person who keeps a lot inside and would rather "keep the peace" than start a confrontation of any kind, I don't say anything about it. I can remember on a few occasions in years and months gone past, where a few of her comments have struck me as odd or anxious, even ... not sure which, because I am not sure if she treats her friends this way, or only me.

So, a few of the scenarios (from my point of view/perception as they happened)

About two years ago, my sisters' friend, my sister, and I went out to a restaurant.. Normally, for anyone this would be a fun outing, but I suppose not for me, because well, I guess i'm "abnormal" -- or something, and I was nervous or anxious for some reason, but the waitress comes over, and stupidly I blurt out "should I pay for my own?" Yes, yes, I know, socially apt people, this was and is a perfectly ridiculous thing to blurt out, I admit, but then again I am not the first person on planet earth that has ever said something stupid.

So, after the waitress leaves, she immediately goes "WHY would you say that in front of the waitress?" and then her and her friend laugh, like "yea, what an idiot".

Okay. Well, I was upset, but I tried not to show it, because I realized it was an odd thing to say. My fault for opening my mouth, I guess.

And a few other scenarios when I was going for a walk with her, which would normally be a relaxing thing, but not for me, because apparently I can't seem to even walk correctly --- if I accidentally forget to hold the door open for someone, she points out "that's rude!" or, if I am for some reason not paying attention and perhaps enjoying the scenery, or whatever during a walk and someone steps in front of me, or I almost bump into them (rarely happens, but you know, it has a couple of times before), she's gone "do you EVEN watch where you're going?" ... even if it was their fault, and they bumped into me ...

Other times, she seems controlling and bossy; or perhaps unaware of how she comes off. Not sure. Maybe she's embarassed to be around me? I'm a Graphic Designer and also I tutor Students at a local College in Photoshop and other design programs. That is what I enjoy. She, by contrast is a makeup artist in NY. I don't know, maybe she looks down on me for it? otherwise, I can't quite figure out why I can't seem to do such mundane tasks, like walking, incorrectly.

Or at my aunt's house, a couple of years ago, when she asked me if I wanted dessert, "You're STILL hungry?"

Needless to say, after that, I was not.

Or, around my birthday in July, when we finished walking around 2 miles in the heat, and my feet were absolutely killing me because I chose the wrong pair of shoes that morning, and by the time we got to the resturant to meet my cousin and his friend at the restruant, I was beat. So I was also quiet, I guess. Before my cousin and his friend arrived to meet us there, she asked "are you going to talk?" well, at some point yes, not sure what the point of asking that was, because I always make an effort to talk as to not appear "rude" (I am not as impolite as my sisters' comments would have you believe.)

I understand the importance of social communication and that certain things must be said and done; and generally I don't believe I am really as horrible at it as she makes me feel I am. I'm not purposely rude -- just quiet. I'm actually careful about what I said and do. But around my sister i'm usually nervous and feel like I need to live up to her expectations of what I should be. It's a lot of pressure, when all I want to do is be myself and have that be good enough. I guess it's not, though. I sometimes get the feeling she is embarassed or perhaps just feels the need to talk to me as if i'm one of her kids. It's embarassing and insulting.

I would bring it up with her, but .. she's one of those defensive types who doesn't really like being wrong about things, so that's kind of difficult. She would normally turn it on me and act if I was the one insulting her. It was quite maddening.

Anyway ... am I over-thinking or over reacting? any advice or insight? or am I being completely ridiculous? I guess people can suggest the "you're being too sensitive" thing? i've heard that before.

I just wish she would treat and see me as an equal, not some person she needs to condesend to.

Replies

  • AddieOverhaul
    AddieOverhaul Posts: 734 Member
    Maybe she (mistakenly) thinks she is helping you? Unless she is mean spirited, she probably doesn't realize she's hurting your feelings. The best thing to do, in my opinion, if you can, is to bring it up with her shortly after she does one of these things. Not necessarily in the moment, but soon enough that she will remember clearly, like within a day. Just be like, I just want you to know that when you said such and such earlier it made me feel like you were criticizing me/talking down to me/stupid etc and it hurt my feelings. Hopefully it will make her more aware of how she says things. Good luck!
  • TheRealParisLove
    TheRealParisLove Posts: 1,907 Member
    I know sisters who act like this toward one another. It is the younger one who is the extrovert/bossy one and the older one who was more introverted and quiet. It turns out that the younger sister in this case has an unrealistic view of how the world should be, and when she is constantly confronted with how the world actually is, she lashes out at everyone in anger and bitterness.

    Today, the older sister is happily married and has a career she loves. The younger sister, who is approaching 30, has trouble with romantic relationships and keeps changing jobs because the old career was just too (fill in the blank). Although both sisters grew up very sheltered, the younger one experienced it even more so in her tween and teen years when the family moved from a large city to a remote town of less than 5000 people. The older sister finished her senior year in the remote town, then left for college.

    The younger sister did fine with small town life, but there aren't many opportunities in small towns these days. Eventually she moved to a larger town for work, but still expects everyone she knows from her youth to fit into nice, neat boxes. When they don't fit into the boxes she has created, she gets rude and angry with them for messing up her world view.
  • mamaomefo
    mamaomefo Posts: 418 Member
    Sounds like maybe your sister is a bit jealous or unhappy with you. She may be competing with you in her mind because you are the older sister. When she talks in these condescending ways with you ask her about it. Don't be angry when you talk about it. Just ask her why she says things like that to you. If you don't confront her she will probably continue to treat you this way, or worse as time goes on. I believe you have to let her know your boundaries as to how she can speak to you. Unless boundaries are set she may just keep doing what she is doing or even speak more harshly. When you set boundaries with people then they clearly know that you will take up for yourself. They will know that you respect yourself and others too by not letting them cross the line of what is acceptable to you. Sounds like she should be taught some social boundaries. And it also sounds as if she is immature.

    And, it is also ok that you are introverted. Everyone is different and that is not wrong...just different personalities. Be happy with yourself, whatever your personality. You are a beautiful person. Some people may be a little socially awkward but that is ok too. If we were all the same, our world would be so boring. It takes different personalities to make the world work. Being introverted is not wrong, it is just a personality style. Always believe in yourself! You are a special person!

    Best of luck with this issue. :flowerforyou:

    Mamaomefo
  • kimothy38
    kimothy38 Posts: 840 Member
    My sister and I are quite similar but even then we don't really get on. I've come to realise that we are just different and that's not going to change so I limit the contact with her in order to keep myself emotionally safe. Best of luck.
  • stefjc
    stefjc Posts: 484 Member
    Are we all the older sister of an opinionated, favourite child? :)

    I think my sister would probably describe me as something of a loser. Not as ambitious or successful as her.

    But I am happily married, rent a lovely house we couldn't possibly afford to buy, have a postgraduate degree, am a college lecturer and have managed to save up a little nest egg for our retirement. We don't have kids (by choice) and spent many years with very little money - both of us went to University in our 30s - and we don't have all the gizmoes and gadgets, expensive holidays and other trappings that people seem to find essential.

    She is a deputy head teacher, a single parent (I'm not judging just listing), owns her own home, loads of 'keeping up with the Joneses' stuff, has absolutely no spare cash ever and is generally manless and a tad desperate but covers it with being far too busy.

    Somehow it has become the family norm to see her as the wonderful successful one. As teens she was the thin, pretty one. She was more mathematical, real cleverness, whereas my more creative wordiness was not as clever. As adults she has really made something of herself and I have made do and stumbled from one thing to another!

    It gets far far easier to accept that you can't do anything about it if you just stick your tongue and out and make rude noises.

    I'm 47 and I just can't be bothered any more. If they (family) can't see the real me, who cares? It's possibly their loss!

    So just be you and enjoy it!
  • Evey_bee
    Evey_bee Posts: 77 Member
    Hi there!

    My sister and I are the exact opposite to your situation - as in I am the older, more extroverted sister, and she is the introvert.
    I think if I was your sister I would want to know that what I was saying is upsetting you. Although as previously advised I would do this shortly after an incident like this takes place, this makes it fresh in her mind, and makes it seem less like a grudge than if you bring up something from 2 years ago.

    However, I would suggest that there may be some cases she says something where you may have been in the wrong, for example, not holding a door for someone can be seen as a little rude by a lot of people(although it's not a big deal at all).
    I admit I have upset my sister a few times when I call her out on something she has done that is rude or just plainly quite bad behaviour. This is primarily when we are out shopping with parents or relatives, my Gran will often offer to buy us something (we're in our 20's but she likes to 'help out' where she can) and my sister has several times just flat out shouted at her in the shop for being annoying when suggesting things we might like. My Gran lets it slide because she doesn't want to tell her she's upset by it for fear of upsetting my sister, so I point it out.

    Although I understand social anxiety to a degree (I also suffer anxiety), it appears to me sometimes that she has trouble understanding another person pov in certain social situations, so only acts out on her own.
    There are ways to point it out with being upsetting, but sometimes the mere fact you've pointed out something they've done wrong is enough to offend somebody.

    I'm not trying to defend your sister when she is just outright saying condescending and mean things for no reason, and I think you should let her know in case she just doesn't realise (I had to do this myself with my mum). There's nothing wrong with being introverted, and you don't need to live up to 'her rules'. Maybe it would help to try to hang out with her a little less too? You may find it easier to socialise with others then (:
  • sarafil
    sarafil Posts: 506 Member
    What I have learned in life (and it took me quite awhile, sadly) is that the only thing I can control is myself/my reactions/my behavior. What I mean is you are never going to be able to change your sister, or how she acts, but what you can address is your reaction to her. She can only make you feel bad about yourself if YOU allow it. Maybe doing some work to figure out why her opinions/reactions to you can make you feel so bad about yourself? That she makes you question yourself? I have an anxiety disorder too, so I know how hard that can be. I have no idea what your opinion is on this, but for myself, I found that medication and therapy have worked wonders. I have no doubt that your sister loves you, sibling relationships can be tough. Good luck to you!
  • likearadiowave
    likearadiowave Posts: 445 Member
    Sounds like maybe your sister is a bit jealous or unhappy with you. She may be competing with you in her mind because you are the older sister. When she talks in these condescending ways with you ask her about it. Don't be angry when you talk about it. Just ask her why she says things like that to you. If you don't confront her she will probably continue to treat you this way, or worse as time goes on. I believe you have to let her know your boundaries as to how she can speak to you. Unless boundaries are set she may just keep doing what she is doing or even speak more harshly. When you set boundaries with people then they clearly know that you will take up for yourself. They will know that you respect yourself and others too by not letting them cross the line of what is acceptable to you. Sounds like she should be taught some social boundaries. And it also sounds as if she is immature.

    And, it is also ok that you are introverted. Everyone is different and that is not wrong...just different personalities. Be happy with yourself, whatever your personality. You are a beautiful person. Some people may be a little socially awkward but that is ok too. If we were all the same, our world would be so boring. It takes different personalities to make the world work. Being introverted is not wrong, it is just a personality style. Always believe in yourself! You are a special person!

    Best of luck with this issue. :flowerforyou:

    Mamaomefo

    Thank you everyone for your input so far.

    And thank you ... that makes me feel better. But as for her being "Jealous", not sure. I don't believe my sister has a reason to be jealous of me at all .... lol.
  • Collidoscopekid
    Collidoscopekid Posts: 195 Member
    Oh honey, I have five siblings. One of those siblings is a younger sister who has no guilt about anything ever. She doesn't care what she says. She doesn't care if her actions are inconvenient,and she doesn't care if what she wants is expensive even if my parents don't have the money for it.

    I am going to give you honest advice. Tell her to chill the **** out. As someone else pointed out, she may not know she is hurting your feelings,even though from what you said,I think it is blatantly rude. My sister is also the defensive type,but if I didn't tell her she was being an *kitten* she would never stop. I know you dislike confrontation but do you want to spend forever having your sister make you feel bad about yourself?

    Good luck sweetie.
  • Sounds like maybe your sister is a bit jealous or unhappy with you. She may be competing with you in her mind because you are the older sister. When she talks in these condescending ways with you ask her about it. Don't be angry when you talk about it. Just ask her why she says things like that to you. If you don't confront her she will probably continue to treat you this way, or worse as time goes on. I believe you have to let her know your boundaries as to how she can speak to you. Unless boundaries are set she may just keep doing what she is doing or even speak more harshly. When you set boundaries with people then they clearly know that you will take up for yourself. They will know that you respect yourself and others too by not letting them cross the line of what is acceptable to you. Sounds like she should be taught some social boundaries. And it also sounds as if she is immature.

    And, it is also ok that you are introverted. Everyone is different and that is not wrong...just different personalities. Be happy with yourself, whatever your personality. You are a beautiful person. Some people may be a little socially awkward but that is ok too. If we were all the same, our world would be so boring. It takes different personalities to make the world work. Being introverted is not wrong, it is just a personality style. Always believe in yourself! You are a special person!

    Best of luck with this issue. :flowerforyou:

    Mamaomefo


    Agreed. I was thinking that you have to treat yourself well, know who you are and be happy with it, respect your needs... all of the things she should be doing... you need to do them yourself first. It isn't easy, I know. I've had a few social anxiety issues, but somehow they seem to come and go. Crazy. But love yourself enough to say what you need to say. Be who you are. Know that you're the only you and you're awesome!!! ; ) She'll come along eventually.
  • Lemonaiding
    Lemonaiding Posts: 78 Member
    We don't make the choice of who we are related to. I have a younger sister that I haven't spoken to in a year. We're polar opposites. I am also quite socially anxious and she found it her duty to humiliate me in front of mutual friends. I am so much happier and relaxed by cutting it off with her. Sure, at times I am sad about it, but then I remember the the level of energy it took to be around her. To have a relationship with her. I don't let my husband be condescending towards me nor any friends. Why would I continue to have a relationship with a person who treated me poorly? I'm not saying to end your relationship with your sister. I talked to my sister about what it was that I was going through with her and she was not able to own her behavior. Distancing yourself would probably be a healthy choice. Just like you chose to be physically healthy. I'm sorry you are experiencing such difficulties.
  • tumblyweed
    tumblyweed Posts: 416 Member
    Let it go.

    People will be who they will be. The one thing you have control over is whether or not you chose to spend time with her.

    I have an older sister who is pretty much the same way. We were born on the same day (I was born on her 5th birthday), but are total opposites. She's into clothing and fashion and flash. I, by nature, am a barefoot frump. :)

    We did have a conversation about it once. I brought it up and prefaced it with an apology. I told her that I did not know what it was that I did to make her so upset with me all of the time, but I was truly sorry and that it wasn't on purpose. She completely went off on me! She told me that I didn't like her, blah, blah, blah. I told her I was sorry she felt that way but it was not true. I asked her what I did to make her feel that way. She was vague. I asked for specifics and she said that, "when we were kids...". ARE YOU KIDDING ME????

    Basically, she blamed me for being a little sister. She even accused me of being jealous of her because I was born on her birthday. Um... I have never had my own, so I don't really care, but I can imagine that it would suck for everyone to forget your 5th birthday 'cause mom was in the hospital delivering a NEW baby by early morning...

    It sometimes takes quite a lot to change people's in-grained perceptions.

    Basically, people are who they are and just because you are family does not guarantee that you will be best buds. Yes, blood is thicker than water, but so is milk... pudding...vomit...

    Find a way to be happy with who you are and leave the door open for her to be your friend if she wants it. You are already sisters. :flowerforyou:
  • magj0y
    magj0y Posts: 1,911 Member
    "When you___, I feel____" ... "it *sounds* condescending " This is less accusatory than "why are you so condescending?

    is one of the best ways to start a confrontational dialogue. She may be so in the habit of acting like this, she doesn't even realize/care how you feel.

    She may say you're too sensitive, too this, too that. It doesn't matter. Once she knows that when she talks a certain way to you, she has no excuse to continue acting like that.

    Does she know about your anxiety, and the problems that go along with it, have you explained all this as apposed to just rattling off the affects of it?

    So siblings feel a bit jealous or resentful when on gets more attention than the other when it comes to medical issues. (not sure if this is something your parents went through with you growing up)

    It also sounds as if your parents are pretty oblivious. The older kid gets the biggest bedroom, unless the 2 youngest are sharing,
    and stuff like that. No way would my youngest get a cell phone before my oldest! or a computer or any such thing. Sounds like at the same time, your parents were in a way spoiling her with accepting her behavior towards you.

    **I also make my kids take turns over who gets the front seat. Mainly because I hate hearing them bicker.