doctor recommended South Beach

At my recent physical, I was telling my doctor how difficult it is for me to lose weight because of my sugar cravings. She recommended South Beach. I see that some people on mfp follow SB . . . do you track your calories as well? It looks like SB isn't about tracking calories, just choosing different foods.

I think my biggest challenge will be not having my morning coffee with sugar. I'm not a big fan of artificial sweeteners, so I guess I might have to go without coffee. Yikes.
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  • I have on cup of coffee each morning. You might want to try 4 drops of Agave. Its a natural sweetener.
  • and agave is allowed in phase 1?
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    and agave is allowed in phase 1?
    it's just a different form of sugar. http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-foods/agave-nectar-worse-than-we-thought

    A drop of cream in your coffee perhaps ?
  • The first weeks SUCKS but you will see big results if you can stick to it.
  • The first weeks SUCKS but you will see big results if you can stick to it.

    Oy. lol
  • millerll
    millerll Posts: 873 Member
    Ask yourself: Are you willing to follow this eating plan for the rest of your life? If so, then have at it. If not, then you will likely end up right back where you are now. That's why I'm not a big fan of "diets". Most people find them too restricting, and eventually give up. Find a lifestyle that will get you to your goal weight and keep you there, and you'll be successful. Good luck!
  • Ask yourself: Are you willing to follow this eating plan for the rest of your life? If so, then have at it. If not, then you will likely end up right back where you are now. That's why I'm not a big fan of "diets". Most people find them too restricting, and eventually give up. Find a lifestyle that will get you to your goal weight and keep you there, and you'll be successful. Good luck!

    Yep, that's kind of how I feel about it too -- and why I've never tried it before. I just love carbs too much. Even grocery shopping today and thinking about trying it this week was overwhelming. My Doc thinks it would really help me to get past my carb cravings but I know I couldn't do it long term.
  • but then I wonder if I *should* be following it long term . . . sigh
  • llkilgore
    llkilgore Posts: 1,169 Member
    South Beach phase 1 was recommended to me too, but only for 2 weeks. I had serious problems with water retention, which was the main reason for the recommendation. I dumped 13 pounds really quickly. But 2 weeks was long enough to break the worst of my sugar cravings too. After the 2 weeks I switched over to counting calories and had little difficulty sticking to a moderate carb, highly restricted processed sugar diet.
  • South Beach phase 1 was recommended to me too, but only for 2 weeks. I had serious problems with water retention, which was the main reason for the recommendation. I dumped 13 pounds really quickly. But 2 weeks was long enough to break the worst of my sugar cravings too. After the 2 weeks I switched over to counting calories and had little difficulty sticking to a moderate carb, highly restricted processed sugar diet.

    OK, that's what I'm wondering --if doing it short term will help curb the cravings. My doc said she did it for a short time (maybe a month or two?) and found it curbed her cravings.

    But grocery shopping today I was just like, "I can't do it." sigh.
  • QueenofScott
    QueenofScott Posts: 305 Member
    Hi! I chose South Beach because I really wanted to dump my sugar cravings. I was skeptical, but it actually worked. I honestly am not craving all those things I used to. Definitely the first two weeks are the hardest....Phase 1.... No carbs of any kind. After that you get to add back in whole grains and most fruits. I started on August 20 and did not count calories, I just followed the plan laid out in the book. Then three weeks ago I found MFP and could not resist the diet and exercise journal, so I have been consistently logging in and completing my journal. I don't know that it's necessary, but I am a regimented person, so I like that it gives me more structure. I wish you all the best with South Beach! Please feel free to add me as a friend....I haven't come across many people here on South Beach.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Ask yourself: Are you willing to follow this eating plan for the rest of your life? If so, then have at it. If not, then you will likely end up right back where you are now. That's why I'm not a big fan of "diets". Most people find them too restricting, and eventually give up. Find a lifestyle that will get you to your goal weight and keep you there, and you'll be successful. Good luck!
    Phase III of south beach is basically: eat healthy, aim for whole foods.
    It's not really a "diet" by then.
  • jalara
    jalara Posts: 2,599 Member
    Did your doc see your food diary? Or refer you to a Registered Dietitian for proper nutritional counselling? Or just suggest a fad diet?
  • myfitnessval
    myfitnessval Posts: 687 Member
    i have to kind of ditto the diet as a lifestyle comment above. it might be best to approach this with a "this is my detox" mindset for the first phase. that being said once you get past the first two weeks you'll be golden. a LOT of those cravings will subside. keep tracking your calories because i find its really hard to MEET my goal and feel like i'm starving while on SB so make sure to get in A LOTS of protein (like with every single meal and snack) in order to keep that hunger away. also rely on healthy fats to help you feel full longer as well. also about the coffee thing, i use stevia, its a natural plant extract that tastes like sugar but isnt a sugar, its wonderful! try it!
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Hi! I chose South Beach because I really wanted to dump my sugar cravings. I was skeptical, but it actually worked. I honestly am not craving all those things I used to. Definitely the first two weeks are the hardest....Phase 1.... No carbs of any kind. After that you get to add back in whole grains and most fruits. I started on August 20 and did not count calories, I just followed the plan laid out in the book. Then three weeks ago I found MFP and could not resist the diet and exercise journal, so I have been consistently logging in and completing my journal. I don't know that it's necessary, but I am a regimented person, so I like that it gives me more structure. I wish you all the best with South Beach! Please feel free to add me as a friend....I haven't come across many people here on South Beach.
    This is incorrect and VERY misleading. Just plain WRONG.
    There are TONS of carbs in the first two weeks. Just no sugar, no fruit, no fruit juice, no "grains".
    Vegetables, beans etc... all have carbs.
    http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/shoppinglist_p1.htm
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    South Beach phase 1 was recommended to me too, but only for 2 weeks. I had serious problems with water retention, which was the main reason for the recommendation. I dumped 13 pounds really quickly. But 2 weeks was long enough to break the worst of my sugar cravings too. After the 2 weeks I switched over to counting calories and had little difficulty sticking to a moderate carb, highly restricted processed sugar diet.
    Isn't it generally ONLY recommended for two weeks? I mean for everyone (except those who are told to skip it).
  • Regarding your morning coffee, what type of coffee do you drink? Is it instant coffee? A lot of people who are used to instant find that real coffee (from an espresso/cappuccino machine) is easy to drink without milk or sugar. It doesn't have the harsh burnt taste of instant. In can be costly to get a decent machine for home, but it comes down to how essential your coffee is :P
  • QueenofScott
    QueenofScott Posts: 305 Member
    I don't really think of South Beach as a diet. As someone mentioned above, Phase 3 is your way of eating for life, while being able to have treats occasionally. It really is just healthy eating....lean protein, veggies, fruits, healthy fats, whole grains, seeds, nuts. And you eat six times a day, so I have never been hungry. Desserts, white breads and pastas, as well as white rice will be occasional treats for me down the road. I have been perfectly satisfied with my whole grain pasta, brown rice, and Ezekiel bread, and I never would have thought that possible. Obviously I am a fan! I urge you to give it a try, at least a week or so I to Phase 2 and see if it works for you.
  • QueenofScott
    QueenofScott Posts: 305 Member
    Excuse me, Sabine....sorry to have accidentally spoken incorrectly and angered or offended you. I should have said no fruits, breads, pastas or rices. But then, the OP would know this, assuming she has read the book. No need to be so mean.
  • QueenofScott
    QueenofScott Posts: 305 Member
    Also, it seems to me that if you only do the first two weeks (phase 1) and then go back to eating all the things your formerly craved, those cravings would come back, defeating the purpose of ever doing Phase 1. Just my two cents. We all need to do what works for us and what we feel is best for us, and what works for us. Good luck to you all, however you choose to lose.
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
    You really don't need to do something this drastic to drop weight. Thousands of people on MFP eat carbs every day and have dropped a tremendous amount of weight.

    I lost 42 lbs before baby came along with MFP myself. No "phases" or uber-restrictive eating habits. Just counting calories and exercise.

    Give it a try for 1 month. It's free. Try just for 1-1.5 lb loss per week at first. Take it easy and see how you do then decide from there if you want to try something more restrictive like SB or one of the hundreds of other "diets" out there.
  • dinerroll
    dinerroll Posts: 12 Member
    Cliffs: Why don't you just try tracking calories anyway? The only way to lose weight is to burn more than you consume.

    The only way to lose weight is to consume fewer calories than you burn. There are no foods that are better than others, and if you could get all of your vitamins and minerals from supplements, then you could very safely and healthily lose weight eating nothing but butter, white sugar, and a protein source of some kind. This assumes you get daily essential fats and amino acids from such a diet. I personally have full fat ice cream or cookies every night before bed. Unless you have diabetes or another metabolic disorder, your body functions normally and can process carbohydrates just like virtually everyone else; look at the billions of lean people in India and China living on a white rice based diet. Cutting out carbs may help you to consume less for psychological reasons. Perhaps it's because you're eliminating an entire class of foods from your diet; but it's not at all necessary.

    If you choose to do it, good luck. Perhaps try regular calorie restriction through this site first. A lot of people find that once they start seeing what they're putting into their body, it's very easy to stay in line with a preset daily calorie goal. I switched over to a ketogenic diet for a while and found that it worked just exactly as well as a regular "balanced" diet. In a sense it was "harder," because social situations can be weird without carbs (bagel breakfast at work/school for instance). However, I didn't find it any "easier" in terms of eating less. It's just as easy to overeat eggs as it is pasta. After an adaptation period where your body learns to use ketones and fatty acids for energy you'll find it no different than any other diet/eating protocol.
  • llkilgore
    llkilgore Posts: 1,169 Member
    South Beach phase 1 was recommended to me too, but only for 2 weeks. I had serious problems with water retention, which was the main reason for the recommendation. I dumped 13 pounds really quickly. But 2 weeks was long enough to break the worst of my sugar cravings too. After the 2 weeks I switched over to counting calories and had little difficulty sticking to a moderate carb, highly restricted processed sugar diet.
    Isn't it generally ONLY recommended for two weeks? I mean for everyone (except those who are told to skip it).

    The South Beach diet was recommended for only 2 weeks and I skipped everything after phase 1. It's not that I think it's necessarily a bad diet as laid out in the book. It just wasn't the way I was advised to go, past the second week, or wanted to go.
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  • llkilgore
    llkilgore Posts: 1,169 Member
    Also, it seems to me that if you only do the first two weeks (phase 1) and then go back to eating all the things your formerly craved, those cravings would come back, defeating the purpose of ever doing Phase 1. Just my two cents. We all need to do what works for us and what we feel is best for us, and what works for us. Good luck to you all, however you choose to lose.

    You defeat the purpose of any weight loss diet if you go back to eating the way you did before.

    The two weeks on phase 1 didn't permanently rid me of sugar cravings - if I eat cake, I want cake - but it did make it easier to resist that first slice of cake long enough for new and better eating habits to take hold.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Excuse me, Sabine....sorry to have accidentally spoken incorrectly and angered or offended you. I should have said no fruits, breads, pastas or rices. But then, the OP would know this, assuming she has read the book. No need to be so mean.
    I wasn't mean. I pointed out that you were wrong when you stated that there were "no carbs".
    It gives everyone the wrong idea about the diet. It's not a low carb diet, as you know (since you've read the book).

    PS: I was neither offended nor angry. Just correcting the misinformation (which is so common when folks talk about low glycemic eating...)
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Also, it seems to me that if you only do the first two weeks (phase 1) and then go back to eating all the things your formerly craved, those cravings would come back, defeating the purpose of ever doing Phase 1. Just my two cents. We all need to do what works for us and what we feel is best for us, and what works for us. Good luck to you all, however you choose to lose.

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  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    South Beach phase 1 was recommended to me too, but only for 2 weeks. I had serious problems with water retention, which was the main reason for the recommendation. I dumped 13 pounds really quickly. But 2 weeks was long enough to break the worst of my sugar cravings too. After the 2 weeks I switched over to counting calories and had little difficulty sticking to a moderate carb, highly restricted processed sugar diet.
    Isn't it generally ONLY recommended for two weeks? I mean for everyone (except those who are told to skip it).

    The South Beach diet was recommended for only 2 weeks and I skipped everything after phase 1. It's not that I think it's necessarily a bad diet as laid out in the book. It just wasn't the way I was advised to go, past the second week, or wanted to go.
    Oh, got it. Thanks for clarifying.
  • leeann0517
    leeann0517 Posts: 74 Member
    but then I wonder if I *should* be following it long term . . . sigh

    phase 1 is only recommended for the first 2 weeks - to get you over your cravings. After that you gradually add in more GOOD carbs (the types of things most people think of as carbs - as was pointed out, in the first 2 weeks you eat plenty of veggies). SB is not a diet, it's a way of eating for life. As you get further into it, you're allowed wine and dark chocolate. I think it's a great eating plan, but if you want to eat chips, white pasta, white flour, etc. on a daily basis, it's probably not for you.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    but then I wonder if I *should* be following it long term . . . sigh

    phase 1 is only recommended for the first 2 weeks - to get you over your cravings. After that you gradually add in GOOD carbs. SB is not a diet, it's a way of eating for life. As you get further into it, you're allowed wine and dark chocolate. I think it's a great eating plan, but if you want to eat chips, white pasta, white flour, etc. on a daily basis, it's probably not for you.
    Right. I recommend South Beach to lots of folks as a tutorial on eating healthy, reasonably.
    It's not a super rigid, super clean approach. It's very doable, and flexible.