Had my metabolism tested and...
stormieweather
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now I know what I'm going to do. Some of you may know that for more than 3 years, I had been eating net calories of 6-700 on a good day, while trying to lose weight I gained during a pregnancy. Did not work, and I actually very slowly gained weight. Then, I quit smoking on May 22 last year, began using MFP, joined a gym in June, lost 15 pounds and two pants sizes. Then my progress ground to a halt last August. Since then, I've tried every trick in the book to break the plateau, to no avail. So I decided to have my metabolism professionally tested.
First of all, the test itself is was done by a testing lab, using a 'MetaCheck' machine.
Some info about the machine:
***** How does MetaCheck measure metabolic rate? For every calorie your body burns, it consumes a fixed amount of oxygen. Actually, your body is burning (also called, oxidizing) food…this is why our internal temperature is 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, rather than the same as the air around us. Metacheck measures the oxygen you inhale then calculates the precise number of calories you are burning. Volume of Oxygen (V02) is a scientific, or medical, notation for the rate at which Oxygen (02) is consumed. RMR is calculated directly from the V02 that is measured during the test. What is Total Metabolic Rate (TMR)? Total Metabolic Rate is the number of calories burned in a day including calories burned due to normal daily activities such as walking, working, etc. This is also referred to as Total Energy Expenditure (TEE). Taking into account the sorts of activities that are typically included in your day, we can then estimate Total Energy Expenditure. Our measurement of Resting Metabolic Rate is a direct and accurate measurement which is our primary interest about your nutritional functioning. Total Energy Expenditure depends on activity level, which you control with the advice of your nutritionist. ***
My RMR is 1,800 calories. That is Resting Metabolic Rate and is what my body uses for my organs to function while completely at rest (and assuming I was completely at rest for a 24 hour period). Everything I do during my day, from brushing my teeth to sitting on the couch, watching TV, burns additional energy. They testers estimate that I burn an additional 700-750 a day doing my normal activities. So my TDEE is about 2,500.
I fasted prior to the test and had a long, 45 minute talk with the administrators, a fitness trainer and nutritionist, after the results were in. Basically, they said I'm doing everything right. Eating 5-6 meals a day, eating unprocessed, natural foods, organic when possible, exercising 3-5 times a week, and had even taken 6 weeks off while eating at maintenance. The missing factor is that my calories have been too low. In looking at my average calories for the last 90 days, there were only 3 days that I even came close to 1.800 calories, in fact, the majority of the time, I didn't even come close to 1,500 calories. The analysis form indicated that any intake under 1,440 was to be considered a 'very low calorie diet' and should ONLY be attempted under close medical supervision. Well....that was pretty much my upper limits!!
Another thing they mentioned was hunger pangs. They said that we need to listen to our bodies and when we feel hunger pangs, we need to supply fuel. It need only be a light carb/protein fix (ie: crackers/cheese or cottage cheese/fruit), but if we ignore those hunger pangs, our body assumes that it is NOT going to be fueled in a timely fashion and immediately begins to conserve. So, in order to keep our bodies functioning at top capacity, keep healthy snacks on hand to satisfy those hunger pangs any time they arise. In discussing this with my husband, he says he doesn't think he knows what true hunger pangs feel like. He eats from boredom, habit, stress, and routine, but rarely ever, from hunger.
Finally, they said that eating immediately after a workout is extremely important. Not 45 minutes or an hour later, but within 15 minutes or so...at least, while you're still flushed and heated. They recommended Think Thin bars, as I said I refused to eat the artificial crap that is in most protein bars. Although I haven't tried one, they look better than most commercial bars - http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tt/low.html
So I will be eating a net of 1800 a day, while increasing my workouts, and making the tweaks they suggested above. They said if I have no changes in 3-4 months, that I should be checked by a doctor for medical issues.
Hope some of this helps someone, somehow :flowerforyou: :bigsmile:
First of all, the test itself is was done by a testing lab, using a 'MetaCheck' machine.
Some info about the machine:
***** How does MetaCheck measure metabolic rate? For every calorie your body burns, it consumes a fixed amount of oxygen. Actually, your body is burning (also called, oxidizing) food…this is why our internal temperature is 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit, rather than the same as the air around us. Metacheck measures the oxygen you inhale then calculates the precise number of calories you are burning. Volume of Oxygen (V02) is a scientific, or medical, notation for the rate at which Oxygen (02) is consumed. RMR is calculated directly from the V02 that is measured during the test. What is Total Metabolic Rate (TMR)? Total Metabolic Rate is the number of calories burned in a day including calories burned due to normal daily activities such as walking, working, etc. This is also referred to as Total Energy Expenditure (TEE). Taking into account the sorts of activities that are typically included in your day, we can then estimate Total Energy Expenditure. Our measurement of Resting Metabolic Rate is a direct and accurate measurement which is our primary interest about your nutritional functioning. Total Energy Expenditure depends on activity level, which you control with the advice of your nutritionist. ***
My RMR is 1,800 calories. That is Resting Metabolic Rate and is what my body uses for my organs to function while completely at rest (and assuming I was completely at rest for a 24 hour period). Everything I do during my day, from brushing my teeth to sitting on the couch, watching TV, burns additional energy. They testers estimate that I burn an additional 700-750 a day doing my normal activities. So my TDEE is about 2,500.
I fasted prior to the test and had a long, 45 minute talk with the administrators, a fitness trainer and nutritionist, after the results were in. Basically, they said I'm doing everything right. Eating 5-6 meals a day, eating unprocessed, natural foods, organic when possible, exercising 3-5 times a week, and had even taken 6 weeks off while eating at maintenance. The missing factor is that my calories have been too low. In looking at my average calories for the last 90 days, there were only 3 days that I even came close to 1.800 calories, in fact, the majority of the time, I didn't even come close to 1,500 calories. The analysis form indicated that any intake under 1,440 was to be considered a 'very low calorie diet' and should ONLY be attempted under close medical supervision. Well....that was pretty much my upper limits!!
Another thing they mentioned was hunger pangs. They said that we need to listen to our bodies and when we feel hunger pangs, we need to supply fuel. It need only be a light carb/protein fix (ie: crackers/cheese or cottage cheese/fruit), but if we ignore those hunger pangs, our body assumes that it is NOT going to be fueled in a timely fashion and immediately begins to conserve. So, in order to keep our bodies functioning at top capacity, keep healthy snacks on hand to satisfy those hunger pangs any time they arise. In discussing this with my husband, he says he doesn't think he knows what true hunger pangs feel like. He eats from boredom, habit, stress, and routine, but rarely ever, from hunger.
Finally, they said that eating immediately after a workout is extremely important. Not 45 minutes or an hour later, but within 15 minutes or so...at least, while you're still flushed and heated. They recommended Think Thin bars, as I said I refused to eat the artificial crap that is in most protein bars. Although I haven't tried one, they look better than most commercial bars - http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tt/low.html
So I will be eating a net of 1800 a day, while increasing my workouts, and making the tweaks they suggested above. They said if I have no changes in 3-4 months, that I should be checked by a doctor for medical issues.
Hope some of this helps someone, somehow :flowerforyou: :bigsmile:
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Wow tha was very thoughtful for you to share all this information with us... This is actually very helpful to me anyways... HHmmm I soon will be making a few changes, but for right now I'm sick and am trying to just concentrate on getting better!!! Thanks again!!!0
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Thanks! This does help alot! I have been wondering if I have been eating enough! now I knnow0
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the thinkthin bars are actually good. My favorite is the chunky peanut butter, chocolate fudge, and the brownie crunch. They have a box with these 3 types. Just go to www.thinkproducts.com to order some online. Hope this helps.0
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Thanks for the info. I found this site Thursday, and am trying to tweak my life to start living and eating more sensibly. All the info y'all are sharing is really helping to re-educate me.0
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Thanks for sharing that. Good to know, and informative. I hope this encourages people to eat instead of cheating their bodies of the fuel it needs to run optimally. Right now I am hungry too, just had a workout, it's time to eat.
Do hope you will keep posting your progress, so we all can see how the new net calorie level you are reaching for effects the weight loss.0 -
Sounds like a good test and provided you with a lot of information.
Please keep us posted on your updated course!!0 -
Thank you so much for sharing Stormie. I was wondering what your test results ended up being.
I think that was some great information. Best of luck going forward. Nice to hear that you're on the right path.0 -
Have you ever used any of those calculators on the internet to calculate RMR or TDEE? If so, how well do they match up to the actual lab test?0
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I always wondered about that. My sister insists she can't lose unless she cuts back to 600 cals a day. She's had thyroid issues in the past and says she "has no metabolism". I wish she'd try this just once. Give it a week and see if it makes a difference.
I feel like I'm always eating since joining here. I never go hungry. I'm also losing weight more consistently than I ever have in my life.0 -
thats it Im doing it. I had my met test done a few years back twice 6 months apart - but it was 4 years ago - reading your post has pushed me over the edge and Im going to cough up the $ and get it done asap. Keep us posted as to how the new plan works.0
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How much does a test like that cost on average?0
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How much does a test like that cost on average?
I would love to have this test done too...
But I must say, eating healthy and not diving really low on calories is working much better for me!0 -
Thank you so much for sharing!! Lots of good info in there Good luck with your progress!!0
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Hi
This is really interesting. Where did you go to get such a test?0 -
Over the last 6 months (since my plateau), I've tried increasing my calories to 1450, doing different kinds of exercises, zig zagging calories, and dropping calories back down. I lose and gain the same 4 pounds over and over.
Most calculators estimate my BMR at 1450 calories. Some are higher, some are lower.
My gym brought the testing company in and we had to sign up in advance. The fee was $70 and was not covered by insurance (someone asked me that). I asked my husband to get the test for me for Valentine's Day .
I've been eating very healthy and logging everything. But if my RMR is 1800 and I'm only eating 1400, and being fairly active, then my body is obviously refusing to let loose of the fat.
My plan is to eat a minimum of 1800, stay active, increase workout intensity, and stop worrying about it. :bigsmile: If weight loss is meant to happen, it will.
A couple of things not in my original post, my body fat is 27% and the testers said my metabolism is 24% faster than average. That's a good thing. I thought it was lower than average, but could account for why I need to eat more than most weight loss programs recommend? I'm not sure on that.
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I would love to get tested as well. Where do you find a doctor that does this test? I am a pretty healthy eater, vegatarian and stay away from most highly processed foods. But no matter what I do I can't lose weight. Please let me know what type of doctor I should go see to get this test. thanks0
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I'm a research freak, so when I found this thread with my own mental question in my head - I decided to do some checking around and attached are some links that can help people get a sense of their metabolic rate. THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR A MEDICAL EXAM!!!!! And, it might help some folks balance their lifestyles a little more effectively, particularly those who can't get a test.
http://www.behealthyatwork.com/pdf/Measuring_Metabolism.pdf (survey)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5834219/ (mathematical equation & products)
http://www.formulamedical.com/About Us/metabolic.html (service for those in CA)
http://www.oprah.com/health/How-to-Measure-and-Boost-Metabolism (and of course, we can't be without the obligatory Oprah addition!)
I'd love to get my metabolism tested - but having quit smoking, I would bet the results would change over the course of many months as my body learns to use oxygen more efficiently again.0 -
Stormie - Thank you so much for all the great information!!! I really hope this works for you, it sounds like it will! Keep us updated!:flowerforyou:0
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I am learning so much from the posts here, thanks!0
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Bump to read later, thank you!0
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I'm a research freak, so when I found this thread with my own mental question in my head - I decided to do some checking around and attached are some links that can help people get a sense of their metabolic rate. THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR A MEDICAL EXAM!!!!! And, it might help some folks balance their lifestyles a little more effectively, particularly those who can't get a test.
http://www.behealthyatwork.com/pdf/Measuring_Metabolism.pdf (survey)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5834219/ (mathematical equation & products)
http://www.formulamedical.com/About Us/metabolic.html (service for those in CA)
http://www.oprah.com/health/How-to-Measure-and-Boost-Metabolism (and of course, we can't be without the obligatory Oprah addition!)
I'd love to get my metabolism tested - but having quit smoking, I would bet the results would change over the course of many months as my body learns to use oxygen more efficiently again.
I have used all the online calculators (ok maybe not all, but dozens!). The Harris-Benedict Formula, et al...I even downloaded a program that adds all the thermal factors such as how many cups of coffee a day you drink and if you eat spicy foods. None of them indicated that my BMR/RMR was 1800. It was always between 1375 and 1500. So that's what I ate.
You would honestly think that I should have continued to lose weight. A deficit is a deficit and all that...right? But our bodies are very efficient machines and mine appears to be very, VERY protective of it's fat stores...lol.
Another thing the test administrators spoke to me about was our bodies "set point'.
**Set-Point Theory
• According to the set-point theory, there is a control system built into every person dictating how
much fat he or she should carry – a kind of thermostat for body fat. Some individuals have a
high setting, others have a low one. According to this theory, body fat percentage and body
weight are matters of internal controls that are set differently in different people.
• The set-point theory was originally developed in 1982 by Bennett and Gurin to explain why
repeated dieting is unsuccessful in producing long-term change in body weight or shape. Going
on a weight-loss diet is an attempt to overpower the set point, and the set point is a seemingly
tireless opponent to the dieter.
• The ideal approach to weight control would be a safe method that lowers or raises the set point
rather than simply resisting it. So far no one knows for sure how to change the set point, but
some theories exist. Of these, regular exercise is the most promising: a sustained increase in
physical activity seems to lower the setting (Wilmore et al. 1999).
• According to the set-point theory, the set point itself keeps weight fairly constant, presumably
because it has more accurate information about the body’s fat stores than the conscious mind can
obtain. At the same time, this system pressures the conscious mind to change behavior,
producing feelings of hunger or satiety. Studies show that a person’s weight at the set point is
optimal for efficient activity and a stable, optimistic mood. When the set point is driven too low,
depression and lethargy may set in as a way of slowing the person down and reducing the
number of calories expended.
• The set point, it would appear, is very good at supervising fat storage, but it cannot tell the
difference between dieting and starvation. The dieter who begins a diet with a high set point
experiences constant hunger, presumably as part of her body’s attempt to restore the status quo.
Even dedicated dieters often find that they cannot lose as much weight as they would like. After
an initial, relatively quick loss, dieters often become stuck at a plateau and then lose weight at a
much slower rate, although they remain as hungry as ever.
• Dieting research demonstrates that the body has more than one way to defend its fat stores.
Long-term caloric deprivation, in a way that is not clear, acts as a signal for the body to turn
down its metabolic rate. Calories are burned more slowly, so that even a meager diet almost
suffices to maintain weight. The body reacts to stringent dieting as thought famine has set in.
Within a day or two after semi-starvation begins, the metabolic machinery shifts to a cautious
regimen designed to conserve the calories it already has on board. Because of this innate
biological response, dieting becomes progressively less effective, and (as generations of dieters
have observed) a plateau is reached at which further weight loss seems all but impossible.**
Adapted from Integrative Group Treatment for Bulimia Nervosa by Helen Riess, M.D. and Mary Dockray-Miller
Questions about this topic? Contact the Center for Health Promotion and Wellness from link ---> http://med-dev.mit.edu/pdf/set_point_theory.pdf0 -
Sounds like you got some great info! Thank you for sharing! Now I want to get the test done!
I just tried the think thin bars and was very impressed! You'll like them!0 -
Thank you for sharing all this information. I hope you let us know how it goes. I was just talking to my friend about upping my calories and I think I may do so. Thank you!0
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