I am going Gluten Free, any comments suggestions

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  • FeebRyan
    FeebRyan Posts: 738 Member
    I went gluten free last Monday.

    I have no indigestion

    I have 200x more energy

    I do not miss it one bar

    I had a headache for 2 days after quitting, i felt weird for about 4 days

    I could NOT go back to gluten now, cutting it out has changed my life :)

    If you want to do it, do it, but dont do it because you want to lose weight, do it because you want to make a positive and beneficial change to your lifestyle for the rest of your life.

    I cannot eat birthday cakes or have the odd snack, i cannot eat pastrys or go to a friends house for dinner, i have to take a packed lunch everywhere. I cannot eat toast or have the odd bacon sarnie. going gluten free has not been easy at all, i have had to forfeit an awful lot of stuff... but it has changed my life for the better :) It was entirely worth it!

    You went gluten free for ONE week and it has changed your TWENTY EIGHT years off existence. My best guess is you've never been committed to anything for more than a week before or somebody has you sold. From my experience I go on certain diet and training philosophies for months and even if I see changes still do not feel qualified to give other people advice.

    To the original poster, I recommend that you do more research than reading one article on a subject before diving into it. Especially take second thought when getting advice from somebody that has been on it for a week and might decide its a bad idea by next Monday. Even if you do get advice from somebody that has been on something for months, keep in mind that what works for one person may not work for you.

    Thats my piece of advice from months and months of work and research, so gather what you know and take the plunge. Most times a mistake is necessary to learn.

    Nobody here is 'qualified' to give advice because we are not dietians.

    I was providing information based upon my experience which i was honest and clear about.

    Yes i gave up gluten a week ago and i have had more fun and pleasure making and eating food since then than i ever did before :)

    Its been a really lovely experience for me.

    I know gluten reacts badly with me because of how i feel right now, i dont honestly give a monkey's whether YOU 'approve' or 'believe' me or not, i did not stop eating gluten because of a 'faddy diet' i did it because of my health.

    You have absolutely NO business being so rude, judgemental or negative.

    And you know this for certain that its not a case of the weather changing in the last week, or things falling into place at work, or your relationship with your significant other taking a spark. or your bodily hormones in a swing from regularities outside of food, etc... Come back to me in 6 months and tell me that your life has been changed and that you haven't had a gluten free pizza once and I might consider the possibility that your life change a result of your diet.

    Yes i can, i have suffered with terrible indigestion for the majority of my adult life, regardless of my weight and for the last 5 days i have not required prescribed or non-prescribed indigestion treatments, that is absolutely life changing. To lie down at night and not have acidic bile rising into your throat, or just bile if on the right amount of medication (they had to double the dose for a while) has been utterly amazing.

    to breathe in and not feel a knot of anxiety, totally connected to my heartburn, is fantastic.

    And preparing healthy, wonderful meals that my family loves is a joy.

    I will not 'come back to you in six months' because actually, i do not give a TOSS whether you 'believe' me or not. It is irrelevant to my journey and my lifestyle choice.

    Of course life changes as a result of your diet! You are what you eat and i am lighter, more positive and happier, everyone has commented on it.

    My relationship is fine thank you, i would think if it were a problem in my relationship that caused my chronic heartburn, i would have noticed in the many relationships that i have had in the time i have suffered with it.

    Now, given that i have absolutely no reason on the planet to justify myself to such a negative, snobby little man, i would ask that you respectfully stop assuming things about me, my family and my diet.

    Thank you.
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    I was recently diagnosed with Celiac disease and have been GF for about a month now. I've had the symptoms of Celiac for years, but never knew that was the reason for my problems. I can't even explain to most people the difference in how I feel. There have been no other changes in my life, except for my diet. It has been tough, but I am completely gluten free. I noticed a difference after 4 days of changing my diet. It wasn't that all of my symptoms completely disappeared, but they were lessened significantly. After a week, I accidentally ate something with gluten in it and was so sick that I couldn't leave the house for like 36 hours. It was horrible. That made me realize how serious I needed to be with this and am diligent now in checking labels, searching for information, etc.

    I sleep better now, no longer have migraines, the stomach problems I've had for years seem to be almost gone, and even the pain from arthritis in several joints isn't nearly as bad as it was before going GF. I think I read that gluten free is considered an anti-inflammatory diet...not sure about that, but it seems to be helping either way. Anyway, I have actually had to watch my carb intake since I started this because I was trying so many new (to me) pre-packaged GF foods and breads that I was having more carbs than I usually do (and I am not on a low carb diet).

    I have lost about 5 lbs this month since going GF, but I think that's just because I've started eating healthier foods and more fruits and veggies. And because I've felt better, my workouts seem to be more fun and intense. I will never go back to eating gluten. The difference in the way I feel is amazing. But if I didn't have Celiac, I would not be eating GF by choice.....

    ^^^ THIS
  • TheSink
    TheSink Posts: 97 Member
    There's suspicion that gluten plays a role in psychological or behavioral issues as well. I know anectdotally, people eating paleo/primal say they experience less depression, and see less ADHD or ADD issues with kids, but that may be as much from eliminating sugars and additives as from eliminating gluten.

    I appreciate your post, and I hear you on folks with Celiac disease and other gluten sensitivities. I'm pulling this one comment out, not to pick on you or the comment, but rather to go back to my original point. In my opinion, it's far too simple to equate a gluten free diet and the experience of "less depression." It's very hard to measure something like that, and say with any certainty the two are correlated. I feel like people who claim gluten free diets changed their psyches, or made them feel better, are implicitly stating that gluten is the reason for why they were depressed or "felt bad" in the first place. It's almost like saying "I don't have a cell phone or a brain tumor, so cell phones cause brain tumors". Everybody understimates the powers of the mind, and honestly? I think people who go gluten free as a means of "feeling better" or limiting ADD or whatever are making themselves believe the two are interrelated. But then again, what do I know? :-) I just cringe when I read about fad diets.
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    That stupid blog post convinced you to completely change the way you eat? wow
  • Fairysoul
    Fairysoul Posts: 1,361 Member
    Been thinking about doing it, this article helped me decide to just do it!

    http://www.healyourlife.com/author-dr-dena-mendes/2011/08/lifeshelp/get-healthy/why-be-gluten-free

    4 Facts to Get Gluten-Free:

    1. You need a certain amount of carbohydrates for brain development. These can be attained by eating greens and high quality animal protein/fat. You could live the rest of your life and never eat another packaged carbohydrate containing wheat and gluten. You wouldn’t miss it and you’d be a lot healthier.
    2. Carbohydrates are more addicting than cocaine or heroine. The rush you get from a sticky, gooey cinnamon bun can create such a high, you might do whatever it takes to get another one in a few hours. The sad part is that you’ll never be satiated by this empty relationship. Carbs can have such catastrophic side effects including permanently slowing your metabolism, numbing your senses and preventing healthy brain development.
    3. Every popular diet today is all about eliminating killer carbs and adding the fat back. You need good quality fats such as avocados and olive oil for your body and brain to work most efficiently. You will never need pasta or cereal (packaged carbohydrates).
    4. Until the government began making recommendations for your daily diet requirements by telling you that your diet should be made up of 45-65% carbs, your ancestors lived healthy, happy lives as hunters and gatherers who ate meat, fish, veggies, and fruit

    Love it!!! Go a few days without gluten and then try to eat it again, you will not be impressed anymore. At least I wasn't!! And about that ancestor comment, you couldn't be more right!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    4. Until the government began making recommendations for your daily diet requirements by telling you that your diet should be made up of 45-65% carbs, your ancestors lived healthy, happy lives as hunters and gatherers who ate meat, fish, veggies, and fruit

    BS. BS. BS.
  • TheSink
    TheSink Posts: 97 Member
    4. Until the government began making recommendations for your daily diet requirements by telling you that your diet should be made up of 45-65% carbs, your ancestors lived healthy, happy lives as hunters and gatherers who ate meat, fish, veggies, and fruit

    BS. BS. BS.

    ^^THIS^^ They also died at 40, too.
  • FeebRyan
    FeebRyan Posts: 738 Member
    I dont get this idea that carbs = gluten and gluten free = no carbs.

    I still eat plenty of carbs, i just dont eat gluten

    i dont eat 'gluten free' products very much at all, i just eat products that don't contain gluten and make my own food.

    I started dieting and ate porridge with alsorts of good stuff in it, i found i was ill and the heartburn was terrible.

    Cut the cereals, i lost the indigestion but that doesnt mean i have swapped for a 'gluten free' cereal, it means i have swapped for something healthy that happens to not contain gluten.

    I think people get confused and think gluten-free = healthy when that is not at all the case.
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    Feeb, just keep doing what you are doing and don't worry about the negativity. Your input is helpful for others and will be even more helpful a few months from now - I think it's hard for people who have a stomach of steel to understand, my hubs included! It took him a long time to realize that I was serious and that this is really helping but he gets it now!

    And it doesn't help that the medical community is still using old science, and that there's no way to test for celiacs other than a biopsy. The blood tests are inaccurate at best and even a biopsy is only going to diagnose the most extreme cases.
  • hiker359
    hiker359 Posts: 577 Member
    A great guide for those starting on a more 'natural' way of eating. While I don't blame gluten on it's own for a lot of America's obesity problem, I do think that the overabundance of processed foods (which includes an incredibly high amount of carbs and gluten) are the likely culprit.

    Here's one of my favorite blog posts on how to approach a paleo form of eating:

    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2010/10/04/the-beginners-guide-to-the-paleo-diet/

    I am not 100% on the wagon, but I have noticed that limiting the amount of processed carbs, breads, and pastas has led to better weight loss success. It also just feels better knowing that I'm eating real instead of 'invented' food.
  • FeebRyan
    FeebRyan Posts: 738 Member
    Feeb, just keep doing what you are doing and don't worry about the negativity. Your input is helpful for others and will be even more helpful a few months from now - I think it's hard for people who have a stomach of steel to understand, my hubs included! It took him a long time to realize that I was serious and that this is really helping but he gets it now!

    And it doesn't help that the medical community is still using old science, and that there's no way to test for celiacs other than a biopsy. The blood tests are inaccurate at best and even a biopsy is only going to diagnose the most extreme cases.

    Thanks x I intend to keep doing what i am doing

    what i really dont understand, is why people are So SO negative, especially when the majority of people who go gluten free talk about how positive it has been for them. If people were going gluten free and then dying, i could understand it but given that people gush about how fantastically it has changed their life... well i just dont get it at all.
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    Gluten free living is NOT a diet at ALL. It's avoiding a specific ingredient in food that makes some people sick. I agree that you can't really substantiate the psychological claims but those, coupled with all the other symptoms I had certainly are enough proof for me that I can't eat gluten.

    So let's review my symptoms that have improved that are NOT psychological:
    Hypothyroidism due to Hashimotos - before going gluten free, I was taking twice the synthroid and three times the cytomel that I take now.
    Gut/abdominal/back pain - this is an indescribable pain that would radiate into my leg sometimes and have me buckled over in misery. It's gone since I went gluten free.
    Numbness in fingers and toes - this is much better, but still not completely gone since I went gluten free.

    there's three. I'm guessing there are more but those three jump out at me.
  • TheSink
    TheSink Posts: 97 Member
    what i really dont understand, is why people are So SO negative, especially when the majority of people who go gluten free talk about how positive it has been for them. If people were going gluten free and then dying, i could understand it but given that people gush about how fantastically it has changed their life... well i just dont get it at all.

    Here's why I'm negtive on it:

    1) It's all about how a person "feels". They cut out one ingredient completely, and "feel" better, and suddenly they're convinced that it's the greatest thing in the world, and that everybody could "feel" better if they cut it out too. I understand there are people with sensitivities, or are intolerant, or alergic. Those people should avoid the ingredient. Everybody else? Not so much.

    2) When you hear about how people go gluten free, and what a cataclysmic event it is in their lives, almost 100% of those individuals refuse to tell you about their pre-gluten free diets. Were they eating Taco Johns all day, every day? Was their diet primarily processed foods, or was there something like 50/50 processed foods to fresh foods ratio? What was their life like before they rid their diets of gluten? Did they work out regularly or no? Did they change their lifestyle outside of their eating? It's common for people in our society to view one thing in their lives as the culprit for all of their ills (look at bad marriages...the culprit is almost always the other person!), and ignore the bigger picture.

    3) Outside of individuals that are truly alergic to gluten and could die from it, there is real no empirical evidence that gluten is the cause of anything and that it should be avoided.
  • FeebRyan
    FeebRyan Posts: 738 Member
    what i really dont understand, is why people are So SO negative, especially when the majority of people who go gluten free talk about how positive it has been for them. If people were going gluten free and then dying, i could understand it but given that people gush about how fantastically it has changed their life... well i just dont get it at all.

    Here's why I'm negtive on it:

    1) It's all about how a person "feels". They cut out one ingredient completely, and "feel" better, and suddenly they're convinced that it's the greatest thing in the world, and that everybody could "feel" better if they cut it out too. I understand there are people with sensitivities, or are intolerant, or alergic. Those people should avoid the ingredient. Everybody else? Not so much.

    2) When you hear about how people go gluten free, and what a cataclysmic event it is in their lives, almost 100% of those individuals refuse to tell you about their pre-gluten free diets. Were they eating Taco Johns all day, every day? Was their diet primarily processed foods, or was there something like 50/50 processed foods to fresh foods ratio? What was their life like before they rid their diets of gluten? Did they work out regularly or no? Did they change their lifestyle outside of their eating? It's common for people in our society to view one thing in their lives as the culprit for all of their ills (look at bad marriages...the culprit is almost always the other person!), and ignore the bigger picture.

    3) Outside of individuals that are truly alergic to gluten and could die from it, there is real no empirical evidence that gluten is the cause of anything and that it should be avoided.

    1. Have you tried it? To see how it makes you feel? How a person feels is a great indicator of how they are health wise.

    2. I am happy to talk to you about my diet before going gluten free. Would you like to ask me any questions?

    3. I would say the fact that 'almost 100%' of people who have removed gluten from their diets feel better, healthier and more energised is pretty good evidence that it has a positive effect. Wouldn't you?
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    what i really dont understand, is why people are So SO negative, especially when the majority of people who go gluten free talk about how positive it has been for them. If people were going gluten free and then dying, i could understand it but given that people gush about how fantastically it has changed their life... well i just dont get it at all.

    Here's why I'm negtive on it:

    1) It's all about how a person "feels". They cut out one ingredient completely, and "feel" better, and suddenly they're convinced that it's the greatest thing in the world, and that everybody could "feel" better if they cut it out too. I understand there are people with sensitivities, or are intolerant, or alergic. Those people should avoid the ingredient. Everybody else? Not so much.

    2) When you hear about how people go gluten free, and what a cataclysmic event it is in their lives, almost 100% of those individuals refuse to tell you about their pre-gluten free diets. Were they eating Taco Johns all day, every day? Was their diet primarily processed foods, or was there something like 50/50 processed foods to fresh foods ratio? What was their life like before they rid their diets of gluten? Did they work out regularly or no? Did they change their lifestyle outside of their eating? It's common for people in our society to view one thing in their lives as the culprit for all of their ills (look at bad marriages...the culprit is almost always the other person!), and ignore the bigger picture.

    3) Outside of individuals that are truly alergic to gluten and could die from it, there is real no empirical evidence that gluten is the cause of anything and that it should be avoided.

    Sink, when I, Mearlie, went gluten free, at first I probably wasn't eating as healthy as I did BEFORE. Because when a person first goes GF, they want to try all the GF products and many of them are full of crap. Crap that doesn't contain gluten, but still crap. IF they feel better (BIG IF), you're going to hear about it because it's like being given part of your life that you didn't even know was missing. You just "feel better" and it's hard to put a quantifier on that.

    I understand people's concern but eating GF is NOT a fad diet. this isn't atkins, south beach, jenny craig, etc, this is avoiding ONE ingredient. Yes it's in tons of stuff, but it's only ONE ingredient, not a fad at all. And it's NOT a weight loss trend. In fact, if you aren't careful you could definitely gain weight eating potatoes and rice instead of whole grains! People who do it for a week or two are just starting to scratch the surface at how darn difficult it is too. Dining out is very difficult and I feel terrible that the conversation at the table always ends up revolving around MY food intolerance. At some point it becomes less of a conversation starter when people get to know you but it takes a long time!

    And since there's no way to test for it, the only way to know if it works for you is to go gluten free for a couple weeks. Negativity doesn't help a person who is questioning whether to try it or not. You just have to get in there and do it to see if it works!
  • TheSink
    TheSink Posts: 97 Member
    1. Have you tried it? To see how it makes you feel? How a person feels is a great indicator of how they are health wise.

    No. I eat a balanced diet, and if I feel like having a bag of Cheetos, and it fits into my diet, I eat them. And since I've never suffered from indigestion problems that have been diagnosed as a gluten intolerance or allergy, why should I? Feeling good can be a result of thousands of different stimulants.
    2. I am happy to talk to you about my diet before going gluten free. Would you like to ask me any questions?

    Please feel free to post an average day: Food, exercise, amount of sleep, daily routine, etc., before and after so we get the full picture. Are you doing absolutely everything exactly the same now as you were before you went gluten free? Is the absence of gluten from your diet the only variable that has changed since you went gluten free?
    3. I would say the fact that 'almost 100%' of people who have removed gluten from their diets feel better, healthier and more energised is pretty good evidence that it has a positive effect. Wouldn't you?

    Not at all. If 100% of people started eating each other and claimed they felt better about themselves, I wouldn't char broil my neighbor. Perhaps you need to read a little more from individuals that have voluntarily eliminated gluten and found NO positive effect from it, or minimal positive affect. I will go back to my original post and say if you can give me empirical evidence that suggests it reduces cancer risk, or something other than "wow, I feel GREAT!!!" then I'll jump right up on that bandwagon too.
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    Empirical evidence: Taking less than half the thyroid meds I took when I was eating gluten. Also, gut pain is gone.
  • FeebRyan
    FeebRyan Posts: 738 Member
    1. Have you tried it? To see how it makes you feel? How a person feels is a great indicator of how they are health wise.

    No. I eat a balanced diet, and if I feel like having a bag of Cheetos, and it fits into my diet, I eat them. And since I've never suffered from indigestion problems that have been diagnosed as a gluten intolerance or allergy, why should I? Feeling good can be a result of thousands of different stimulants.
    2. I am happy to talk to you about my diet before going gluten free. Would you like to ask me any questions?

    Please feel free to post an average day: Food, exercise, amount of sleep, daily routine, etc., before and after so we get the full picture. Are you doing absolutely everything exactly the same now as you were before you went gluten free? Is the absence of gluten from your diet the only variable that has changed since you went gluten free?
    3. I would say the fact that 'almost 100%' of people who have removed gluten from their diets feel better, healthier and more energised is pretty good evidence that it has a positive effect. Wouldn't you?

    Not at all. If 100% of people started eating each other and claimed they felt better about themselves, I wouldn't char broil my neighbor. Perhaps you need to read a little more from individuals that have voluntarily eliminated gluten and found NO positive effect from it, or minimal positive affect. I will go back to my original post and say if you can give me empirical evidence that suggests it reduces cancer risk, or something other than "wow, I feel GREAT!!!" then I'll jump right up on that bandwagon too.

    1. But see, i have suffered indigestion problems, so have many of other people, just because YOU are not intolerant to gluten, does not mean that many other people would find the same results.

    2. sure;

    (gluten)

    Breakfast - Porridge with almond milk, prunes, dried cranberries, almond flakes and a banana

    Snack - 9 bar or eat healthy bar and banana

    Lunch - beans on toast (generally)

    Dinner - homemade spag bol, veggie stir fry or chicken and pasta


    Now

    Smoothie with apple juice, banana, prunes, wheatgrass, macca powder

    snack - 9 bar or eat healthy bar

    lunch - hummus, rice cakes, few veggies if affordable

    dinner - home made veggie curry or falafal or bean stew with rice, chapati, pitta etc

    exercise, 2 days belly dancing a week, running around after a toddler and newborn all day.


    exercise has not changed.
  • FeebRyan
    FeebRyan Posts: 738 Member
    3.

    harming your neighbour is very different to going gluten-free or removing something potentially harmful from your diet to see if you have a hidden intolerance to it. Nobody is suggest you hurt yourself or anyone else

    in fact i have not even seen anyone suggest to anyone else that they go gluten-free, it seems someone approaches the subject on the forum and are attacked by people who rubbish the suggestion and say it is some sort of sheepish fad, or that is its dangerous and unreasonable a thing to suggest.

    The one common denominator is that those who have attempted a gluten-free or reduced diet are all for others giving it a go, where as those who have not tried it, pish it and suggest it is something terrible.

    Now who are the ones with the lack of information, would you say ;)
  • JustJennie1
    JustJennie1 Posts: 3,749 Member
    If you are truly going to go gluten free then you need to be cognizant of the hidden gluten that is in labels as well. "Gluten Free" does not just mean cutting out wheat products, it means making sure that what you eat doesn't have any gluten in it. Did you know that Carmel Color contains gluten? Glue on lickable envelopes and stamps? Medications, pasta sauce (just because it says it contains tomato paste does not mean the manufacturer who they got the paste from doesn't contain gluten), certain added ingredients in foods like HVP (hydrogenated vegetable protein), HPP (hydrolyzed plant protein), TVP (textured vegetable protein), MSG (monosodium glutamate could contain wheat if made outside of the U.S.A.), and phrases like modified food starch (safe if made in the U.S.A., but may contain gluten if made elsewhere) tell you nothing about what ingredients it may contain. Other confusing ingredients are maltodextrin, stabilizers, binders, fillers, natural flavor, vegetable gums, and mono & diglycerides. Ice cream, soups, snacks, yogurts, ground beef can all contain gluten.

    Also when you go out to eat you need to make sure that the food is prepared in the way that they would prepare it for someone with a gluten intolerance.

    If you're going to go completely gluten free then you need to be aware of all of this stuff as do people who have celiacs. Like I said it's not just cutting out wheat products or the like it's cutting out anything that might contain gluten. Just something to think about.

    ETA: My sister has Celiacs and believe me it is a pain in the butt for her to shop and go to restaurants. If there is even a small portion of gluten in something -- or if they happen to accidentally cook her food in a pot that say pasta was cooked in -- she gets very ill.
  • caribougal
    caribougal Posts: 865 Member
    There's suspicion that gluten plays a role in psychological or behavioral issues as well. I know anectdotally, people eating paleo/primal say they experience less depression, and see less ADHD or ADD issues with kids, but that may be as much from eliminating sugars and additives as from eliminating gluten.

    I appreciate your post, and I hear you on folks with Celiac disease and other gluten sensitivities. I'm pulling this one comment out, not to pick on you or the comment, but rather to go back to my original point. In my opinion, it's far too simple to equate a gluten free diet and the experience of "less depression." It's very hard to measure something like that, and say with any certainty the two are correlated. I feel like people who claim gluten free diets changed their psyches, or made them feel better, are implicitly stating that gluten is the reason for why they were depressed or "felt bad" in the first place. It's almost like saying "I don't have a cell phone or a brain tumor, so cell phones cause brain tumors". Everybody understimates the powers of the mind, and honestly? I think people who go gluten free as a means of "feeling better" or limiting ADD or whatever are making themselves believe the two are interrelated. But then again, what do I know? :-) I just cringe when I read about fad diets.

    I totally hear you. Especially with depression or behavior, it's hard to pin it on any one thing. If it were easy, we'd all be happy little calm campers. I personally haven't really seen a change in depression. I don't suffer terribly, but I teeter on the edge a few days every month. I'm not sure at all what triggers it. And no, it's not TOM. I also haven't seen a change in my energy levels, but what I do notice is that my blood sugar has stabilized. I'm sure that has nothing to do with gluten and everything to do with lowering my carbs and only eating sugar from fruits and veggies (and the occasional bite of dark chocolate). I learned a lot about my blood sugar swings when I had gestational diabetes and was testing myself before and after every meal. I learned which foods spiked my blood sugar and kept it high, and which foods didn't. Of course, I had a malfunctioning pancreas at the time which I don't have now, but it really taught me to pay attention to how I felt before and after eating certain foods. Now that I have slain that sugar dragon and driven him from my life, I no longer have the cravings, the shakes if I go a few hours without eating, or the obsessive thinking about being "staaarved". I can get hungry, without getting shaky or crazy. And eat a filling meal of protein + veg + fat and be happy for hours.

    On the other hand, there are LOTs of people who eliminate gluten and processed foods from their kids' diets, and see dramatic changes in behavior. Again, I'm not sure if that's the gluten, or if it's more the sugar and/or chemical additives from processed foods. I'm trying to get my kids to eat less crappy carbs and more healthy foods, but it's hard to be successful when hubby brings home bite-size brownies, cookies, candy, etc. I have no problem resisting, but the kids can't resist and don't want to. I would love to run an experiment and eliminate the processed sugary stuff from my kids' diets for 2 weeks and see if we have less tantrums. With a 4 and 3 year old... that sure would be nice. I'll keep dreaming.
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    If you are truly going to go gluten free then you need to be cognizant of the hidden gluten that is in labels as well. "Gluten Free" does not just mean cutting out wheat products, it means making sure that what you eat doesn't have any gluten in it. Did you know that Carmel Color contains gluten? Glue on lickable envelopes and stamps? Medications, pasta sauce (just because it says it contains tomato paste does not mean the manufacturer who they got the paste from doesn't contain gluten), certain added ingredients in foods like HVP (hydrogenated vegetable protein), HPP (hydrolyzed plant protein), TVP (textured vegetable protein), MSG (monosodium glutamate could contain wheat if made outside of the U.S.A.), and phrases like modified food starch (safe if made in the U.S.A., but may contain gluten if made elsewhere) tell you nothing about what ingredients it may contain. Other confusing ingredients are maltodextrin, stabilizers, binders, fillers, natural flavor, vegetable gums, and mono & diglycerides. Ice cream, soups, snacks, yogurts, ground beef can all contain gluten.

    Also when you go out to eat you need to make sure that the food is prepared in the way that they would prepare it for someone with a gluten intolerance.

    If you're going to go completely gluten free then you need to be aware of all of this stuff as do people who have celiacs. Like I said it's not just cutting out wheat products or the like it's cutting out anything that might contain gluten. Just something to think about.

    ETA: My sister has Celiacs and believe me it is a pain in the butt for her to shop and go to restaurants. If there is even a small portion of gluten in something -- or if they happen to accidentally cook her food in a pot that say pasta was cooked in -- she gets very ill.

    Yep!
  • ktouton
    ktouton Posts: 20 Member
    My son has Celiac. Anyone with a first degree relative (parent/sibling or child) should be tested for it. My tTg numbers did not indicate Celiac, but I do have one of the 2 genes. I went GF with my son and determined I am gluten intolerant. Who knew that cutting out gluten would prevent kidney stones.

    I am also the person who GAINED 30 pounds after going GF. I am proof that not everyone looses weight while GF. I am working my way to loose those 30 and more.
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    That's exactly what I don't get about people who call this a "fad diet". It's NOT a diet at all. In fact if you aren't careful you will gain. The first thing I did was buy a package of gluten free cake mix, then proceeded to eat the whole dang thing myself! *insert sarcasm* But it was OK because it wasn't gluten!
  • FeebRyan
    FeebRyan Posts: 738 Member
    That's exactly what I don't get about people who call this a "fad diet". It's NOT a diet at all. In fact if you aren't careful you will gain. The first thing I did was buy a package of gluten free cake mix, then proceeded to eat the whole dang thing myself! *insert sarcasm* But it was OK because it wasn't gluten!

    I just made gluten and dairy free banana choc-chip muffins.

    dreadful i know :)
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    That's exactly what I don't get about people who call this a "fad diet". It's NOT a diet at all. In fact if you aren't careful you will gain. The first thing I did was buy a package of gluten free cake mix, then proceeded to eat the whole dang thing myself! *insert sarcasm* But it was OK because it wasn't gluten!

    I just made gluten and dairy free banana choc-chip muffins.

    dreadful i know :)

    Oh that sounds DIVINE! Have you noticed how light and fluffy the really sweet cake-y stuff is, but how dense and heavy breads are? What's up with that? lol
  • momtokgo
    momtokgo Posts: 446 Member
    There's suspicion that gluten plays a role in psychological or behavioral issues as well. I know anectdotally, people eating paleo/primal say they experience less depression, and see less ADHD or ADD issues with kids, but that may be as much from eliminating sugars and additives as from eliminating gluten.

    I appreciate your post, and I hear you on folks with Celiac disease and other gluten sensitivities. I'm pulling this one comment out, not to pick on you or the comment, but rather to go back to my original point. In my opinion, it's far too simple to equate a gluten free diet and the experience of "less depression." It's very hard to measure something like that, and say with any certainty the two are correlated. I feel like people who claim gluten free diets changed their psyches, or made them feel better, are implicitly stating that gluten is the reason for why they were depressed or "felt bad" in the first place. It's almost like saying "I don't have a cell phone or a brain tumor, so cell phones cause brain tumors". Everybody understimates the powers of the mind, and honestly? I think people who go gluten free as a means of "feeling better" or limiting ADD or whatever are making themselves believe the two are interrelated. But then again, what do I know? :-) I just cringe when I read about fad diets.

    I totally hear you. Especially with depression or behavior, it's hard to pin it on any one thing. If it were easy, we'd all be happy little calm campers. I personally haven't really seen a change in depression. I don't suffer terribly, but I teeter on the edge a few days every month. I'm not sure at all what triggers it. And no, it's not TOM. I also haven't seen a change in my energy levels, but what I do notice is that my blood sugar has stabilized. I'm sure that has nothing to do with gluten and everything to do with lowering my carbs and only eating sugar from fruits and veggies (and the occasional bite of dark chocolate). I learned a lot about my blood sugar swings when I had gestational diabetes and was testing myself before and after every meal. I learned which foods spiked my blood sugar and kept it high, and which foods didn't. Of course, I had a malfunctioning pancreas at the time which I don't have now, but it really taught me to pay attention to how I felt before and after eating certain foods. Now that I have slain that sugar dragon and driven him from my life, I no longer have the cravings, the shakes if I go a few hours without eating, or the obsessive thinking about being "staaarved". I can get hungry, without getting shaky or crazy. And eat a filling meal of protein + veg + fat and be happy for hours.

    On the other hand, there are LOTs of people who eliminate gluten and processed foods from their kids' diets, and see dramatic changes in behavior. Again, I'm not sure if that's the gluten, or if it's more the sugar and/or chemical additives from processed foods. I'm trying to get my kids to eat less crappy carbs and more healthy foods, but it's hard to be successful when hubby brings home bite-size brownies, cookies, candy, etc. I have no problem resisting, but the kids can't resist and don't want to. I would love to run an experiment and eliminate the processed sugary stuff from my kids' diets for 2 weeks and see if we have less tantrums. With a 4 and 3 year old... that sure would be nice. I'll keep dreaming.


    We did!! All processed foods, food dyes etc. And there was a huge change in attitude, especially from my 10 year old. We have some things back in the house now,but not much. We very very rarely buy things like brownies, cookies etc. Very few fits in our house.

    We started our 10year old on a GF diet today too, I have Celiacs and she has symptoms. Worth a try for a bit to see if it helps her or not.
  • jllove871
    jllove871 Posts: 84 Member
    Are you going gluten free because you think you may have an intolerance or just that you feel it is something you want to try?

    I am gluten intolerant and had no choice but to cut it out. Some days it can be very hard, especially when getting together with friends for dinner that do not need to follow the same 'diet'. I will say since going GF I feel much better, no bloating, less headaches, intestinal issues have eased etc etc.

    I wish you luck with whatever choices you make, but remember this needs to be a lifestyle not a diet to help with weight loss.

    I am going gluten free because I have hypothyroidisand irritable bowel, nice!
  • mearlie
    mearlie Posts: 224
    hypothyroidism - did they diagnose you with hashimotos? If so, that's a definite warning sign that you are gluten intolerant.

    IBS too? Yep! Time to give it a go. You won't know until you try it for awhile.
  • ep922nj
    ep922nj Posts: 11 Member
    Aren't bananas a 'no no' for gluten free?