Wheat Belly

Ah yes the wheat belly discussion. I have recently come across him and I watched a couple of interviews that he was in. I see his point and I agree with it to an extent. Personally, I feel our SAD (Standard American Diet) is too high in carbohydrates, especially refined carbs. I did find it interesting that "wheat bread" has the same or slightly different glycemic index as does white bread.

What I like to call typical carbs, breads, pastas, fast digesting carbs, are too high in our diet. We need more complex carbs in the diet, focusing more on whole foods; fruits, veggies, legumes, some long grain brown rice.

Bottom line, I think we need to remember to eat more whole foods, eat foods that man kind hasn't altered or messed with. Keep it simple, cook more, eat unprocessed foods, stay away from refined carbs, and eat foods high in fiber.

Ah yes the wheat belly discussion. I have recently come across him and I watched a couple of interviews that he was in. I see his point and I agree with it to an extent. Personally, I feel our SAD (Standard American Diet) is too high in carbohydrates, especially refined carbs. I did find it interesting that "wheat bread" has the same or slightly different glycemic index as does white bread.

What I like to call typical carbs, breads, pastas, fast digesting carbs, are too high in our diet. We need more complex carbs in the diet, focusing more on whole foods; fruits, veggies, legumes, some long grain brown rice.

Bottom line, I think we need to remember to eat more whole foods, eat foods that man kind hasn't altered or messed with. Keep it simple, cook more, eat unprocessed foods, stay away from refined carbs, and eat foods high in fiber.

You get your complex carbs from fruit?

Dr. Davis distorts research study findings and is still fat, carrying most of his weight in his belly. Save your money and your brain, and go eat some delicious bread.

Dr. Davis distorts research study findings and is still fat, carrying most of his weight in his belly. Save your money and your brain, and go eat some delicious bread.

Give us a cuddle. :flowerforyou:

Davis is given to sensationalism, but he is right on the money that grain makes you gain. I think absolutely everyone should try to go clean-food only, grain-less and legume-less for 6 weeks and see the difference for themselves.

His recipes are stupid though. He tries hard to sub grain products with some false nut based crap. To do it right, no faking is required. Real veggies + meat + good fats = life's wonderful and good.

You must be joking. I eat toast EVERY morning. I eat sandwiches and wraps, and I wouldn't know clean food if it danced around in front of me. I have lost 45 pounds eating everything in MODERATION. Hell, I had a Wild Grape Smirnoff Ice last night, just cause I wanted it and I had the calories. (granted yesterday was a REALLY bad day). Most days I get in fruits and veggies and lean meats and BALANCE. So grain makes you gain is NOT true for everyone.

Dr. Davis distorts research study findings and is still fat, carrying most of his weight in his belly. Save your money and your brain, and go eat some delicious bread.

I have had trouble with my weight for decades but have managed to lose the odd pound or two. I have now reached (and passed) my target weight as in June I gave up eating anything linked to wheat. Such as Bread, Pasta etc... I am not saying this would be the same for everybody but it certainly is for me. I used to feel terribly bloated after eating bread and it would take several days for my weight to return to normal.

As an additional point... Some years ago I had to have a full body X-Ray and the Radiologist said to me "ah! I see you've had your appendix removed". I told him that I had never had my appendix removed, as I never have (no tell tale scar even). He didn't believe me but simply said "well you haven't got one". I'm left wondering if this could be part of my problem as it's a redundant organ for eating grass. Food for thought

Ah yes the wheat belly discussion. I have recently come across him and I watched a couple of interviews that he was in. I see his point and I agree with it to an extent. Personally, I feel our SAD (Standard American Diet) is too high in carbohydrates, especially refined carbs. I did find it interesting that "wheat bread" has the same or slightly different glycemic index as does white bread.

What I like to call typical carbs, breads, pastas, fast digesting carbs, are too high in our diet. We need more complex carbs in the diet, focusing more on whole foods; fruits, veggies, legumes, some long grain brown rice.

Bottom line, I think we need to remember to eat more whole foods, eat foods that man kind hasn't altered or messed with. Keep it simple, cook more, eat unprocessed foods, stay away from refined carbs, and eat foods high in fiber.

grains are complex carbs, fruits are simple carbs. A cupcake would be complex, an apple would be simple.

So according to you N=1 is greater than all current literature in nutrition?

Yep. The bestest research is worthless for you if it doesn't work for you. Don't trust anyone telling you what to do. Try it. Stick with it for long enough to see if it is beneficial of not. Drop it if you don't like it. Go on if it doesn't.

Wanna put your results against mine?

Female, post child-birth. Dropped 30 lbs with high carb-low fat diet and 3+ hours cardio/bootcamps a day post pg. Got sick as heck, including wanting an orange peel from a trash can, unable to stay full on caloric limit; started regaining weight. Dropped processed grains. Felt immediately better. Over the next couple years moved more and more towards nothing but meat, fats and vegetables. Fixed high blood sugar. Stopped being dizzy, disoriented and maddeningly hungry every time I went without food for 2 hrs. Hold weight in low 120's, lifting 4x a week and throwing in HIT 2-3x a week & moving slowly as much as I can. Regained muscular mass in the upper body. Stopped looking like I ran away from a concentration camp on top, while still sporting huge thighs at the bottom. Go sick & gain uncontrollably every time I eat grains or sugars. My calories to get satiated go up by 300-600 cals a day when I eat grains/sugars.

My N=1 is that no grains/no sugar is the only way I can manage my hunger, my weight, train and not go mad with hunger and deprivation. Grains are not my friend, even the benign rice.

Because I tried different things, I know what I know.

I have heard alot about this book and I have it on hold at the library...I was told there is a lot of information in it that is stopping us from losing the fat that is in our belly area.

You were able to control for all potential confounders?

No. But hunger increase when eating sugar/grains is so significant, minor deviations do not impact the results.

And I would have suggested that instead of low-fat, high carb with 3+ hours of intense cardio every single day to the point where you were ill and starving I'd simply:

Eat the calories recommended to a person by MFP, exercise 30 minutes a day 4-5 times a week. Period.

Sounds to me like you followed a bad plan with a slightly more reasonable one and now you're pretending it's the only thing that works.

You should have tried moderation.

Did that. Moderation = slowly regaining to the weight right back to the over-weight line where I started after pg. I did not want to be overweight. I am much more comfortable here. Now I hold the same weight I had to go sick on grain-based diet without much problems and my body comp is better. It is not easy. It is never easy, but it is much better. I can be reasonable without grain. I have to be unreasonable with it.

I'm a coeliac no gluten/wheat for me at all but I've still managed to put on over 7 stone. Cutting out what may work for some people but its not the golden answer.