Strength Training Question

Gongfu_Life
Gongfu_Life Posts: 41
edited January 1 in Fitness and Exercise
Been doing upper body every other day, but not satisfied with the feeling I get from the Lat Pull Down machine...:indifferent:

Tried the Seated Row today and really felt it...enjoyed it. :bigsmile:

Any other thoughts for back exercises appreciated.
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  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    for the lat pull down what are your goals? to do a pull up?

    if so you might get a better prep for that by doing it in a position where you're more hovering over the seat rather than sitting on it. it looks weird but you engage your abs muscles more which you would use in a pull up/chin up.

    BB row is also good as well as the pullover. the pullover is good because it works both upper back and chest.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    I make an entire day out of back exercises. I also go as heavy as my body can pull on all sets.

    Deadlift first, as it takes the most out of you.
    Cable lat pulldowns.
    Bent Over Rows
    Cable Rows
    Stiff Arm Pulldowns

    The last one I will run until my lats are just dead. I spend the next week feeling like I have rotweilers hanging by their teeth from the back of my armpits.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Deadlifts, barbell rows, dumbbell rows, chin ups
  • BackTatJIM
    BackTatJIM Posts: 1,140 Member
    1 arm rows and dead lifts , cant go wrong
  • MidwestAngel
    MidwestAngel Posts: 1,897 Member
    1 arm rows and dead lifts , cant go wrong

    Look at his back, he speaks the truth!
  • julesan902
    julesan902 Posts: 79 Member
    deadlifts, cleans, pendlay rows, chin ups
  • LittleMiss_WillLoseIt
    LittleMiss_WillLoseIt Posts: 1,373 Member
    1 arm rows and dead lifts , cant go wrong

    Jim definitely knows about these kinda of things... obviously. =)
  • BackTatJIM
    BackTatJIM Posts: 1,140 Member
    =) thanks ladies ... and yes chin ups are great as well !
  • Gongfu_Life
    Gongfu_Life Posts: 41
    1 arm rows and dead lifts , cant go wrong

    Look at his back, he speaks the truth!

    True enough! T
  • Gongfu_Life
    Gongfu_Life Posts: 41
    1 arm rows and dead lifts , cant go wrong

    Jim definitely knows about these kinda of things... obviously. =)

    Indeed!

    Never done dead lifts....I'll try them.
  • McBully4
    McBully4 Posts: 1,270 Member
    Any other thoughts for back exercises appreciated.

    The mother of all back exercises DEAD LIFT
  • Gongfu_Life
    Gongfu_Life Posts: 41
    I make an entire day out of back exercises. I also go as heavy as my body can pull on all sets.

    Deadlift first, as it takes the most out of you.
    Cable lat pulldowns.
    Bent Over Rows
    Cable Rows
    Stiff Arm Pulldowns

    The last one I will run until my lats are just dead. I spend the next week feeling like I have rotweilers hanging by their teeth from the back of my armpits.

    Crazy! I'm just starting out,( every other day) but my goal is to get up to a 4 oe 6 day split routine.
  • RedHeadDevotchka
    RedHeadDevotchka Posts: 1,394 Member
    Any other thoughts for back exercises appreciated.

    The mother of all back exercises DEAD LIFT

    True story. I love deadlifts soooooooo much!!
  • QuickShot18
    QuickShot18 Posts: 22 Member
    Deadlifts, squats, BB rows, DB rows. Deadlifts would probably be the best, imo.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    Pendlay Rows
    Deadlifts
  • jonwv
    jonwv Posts: 362 Member
    Deadlifts......it will be a love hate relationship
  • McBully4
    McBully4 Posts: 1,270 Member
    my back day is

    back extensions hugging a 45lb plate
    bent over rows
    pendelay rows
    and deadlifts until I want to puke
  • Gongfu_Life
    Gongfu_Life Posts: 41
    Pendlay Rows
    Deadlifts

    Some body hip me to what a "pendelay row" is, please.... :embarassed:
  • Big_Daddy6
    Big_Daddy6 Posts: 188
    Deadlifts
    Wide grip pull downs (false grip)
    Behind the head pull downs
    Reverse grip pull downs
    Cable rows..... but use i use the rope not the bar on these.
    Finish it off with cranks 4 sets.........last one to complete failure.........

    i go heavy on the pull downs about 5-8 reps.
    on the cranks I do 3 sets of 20 reps at 70lbs then the last to failure. I use straps on the last set because my hands give out before my back does.

    that's what i do....... once a week.
  • Tyrone_S
    Tyrone_S Posts: 94 Member
    To hit my whole back I do:

    Pullups to warm up, start grip as wide as possible and bring it in slightly each set
    Some sort of row with elbows in tight (bent over dumbbell row or cable row)
    Some sort of row with elbows out wide (machine row or bent over barbell row)
    Stiff arm lat pull-down, super set with the above.
    Flys to Finnish off the the and upper back and rear delts, normally I superset a machine and a dumbbell fly

    I do dead-lifts (which get the lower back), but do them as part of my leg routine
    I do rear delts on a more upright angle as part of my shoulder routine
  • Big_Daddy6
    Big_Daddy6 Posts: 188
    1 arm rows and dead lifts , cant go wrong

    Jim definitely knows about these kinda of things... obviously. =)

    Indeed!

    Never done dead lifts....I'll try them.

    be careful on the d/l........ make sure ur technique is down before going super heavy or u will snap some stuff up.
  • Spartan_Maker
    Spartan_Maker Posts: 683 Member
    Pull-ups and deadlifts are far and away my favorites.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    1 arm rows and dead lifts , cant go wrong

    Jim definitely knows about these kinda of things... obviously. =)

    Indeed!

    Never done dead lifts....I'll try them.

    be careful on the d/l........ make sure ur technique is down before going super heavy or u will snap some stuff up.

    This is solid advice. However, I'd modify it a bit. Find what works for YOU, not the millions of tools posting form check videos all over the internet. Most of the strongest lifters in history have used form that would give the modern know it alls fits that resemble seizures.

    Also, OP, my routine isn't all that crazy really. I've only been back into lifting for a couple of months. You never know what you are capable of until you say "**** fear" and load up the bar or move the pin. :) My 335 DL is pathetic by most measures, but I forced myself to get there within a month and a half.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    Pendlay Rows
    Deadlifts

    Some body hip me to what a "pendelay row" is, please.... :embarassed:

    Pendlay row is like a barbell row except your back is horizontal and you set the weight down after each rep. I'm not a big lifter, but I like to look up new stuff. :)

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/542694-the-differences-between-pendlay-rows-barbell-rows/
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    Pendlay Rows
    Deadlifts

    Some body hip me to what a "pendelay row" is, please.... :embarassed:

    Pendlay row is like a barbell row except your back is horizontal and you set the weight down after each rep. I'm not a big lifter, but I like to look up new stuff. :)

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/542694-the-differences-between-pendlay-rows-barbell-rows/

    I wouldn't say that you put the weight down after each rep, but more... tap the floor with it?

    But these and deads. For sure.
  • Rompa_87
    Rompa_87 Posts: 291 Member
    Pullups, Inverted Rows, Bent Over Rows, Handstand Pushups and Wide Hand Pushups. You will not only look good but also be strong!
  • wmagoo27
    wmagoo27 Posts: 201 Member
    Been doing upper body every other day, but not satisfied with the feeling I get from the Lat Pull Down machine...:indifferent:

    Tried the Seated Row today and really felt it...enjoyed it. :bigsmile:

    Any other thoughts for back exercises appreciated.

    weighted pullups, deadlifts, pendlay rows, incline bench supported rows, kroc rows (ALL HEAVY)

    Why only upper body. You don't want chicken legs do you?
  • Gongfu_Life
    Gongfu_Life Posts: 41
    Pendlay Rows
    Deadlifts

    Some body hip me to what a "pendelay row" is, please.... :embarassed:

    Pendlay row is like a barbell row except your back is horizontal and you set the weight down after each rep. I'm not a big lifter, but I like to look up new stuff. :)

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/542694-the-differences-between-pendlay-rows-barbell-rows/

    Thank you...
  • Gongfu_Life
    Gongfu_Life Posts: 41
    Been doing upper body every other day, but not satisfied with the feeling I get from the Lat Pull Down machine...:indifferent:

    Tried the Seated Row today and really felt it...enjoyed it. :bigsmile:

    Any other thoughts for back exercises appreciated.

    weighted pullups, deadlifts, pendlay rows, incline bench supported rows, kroc rows (ALL HEAVY)

    Why only upper body. You don't want chicken legs do you?

    Good question...I've had five knee surgeries.........Thus... .I have The Fear..

    I ride a bicycle about 7-10 miles 4 days a week...I may start squatting (body weight) soon.
  • blakejohn
    blakejohn Posts: 1,129 Member
    Deadlifts......it will be a love hate relationship

    Amen
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