So lazy but...
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I don't have a smart phone so I pre-log everything in the morning. Helps me stick to it when I have a plan as well.0
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And I'djust like to finish by saying we discussed what the examples of me making lazy posts was and I think it is clear there was just a misunderstanding of my tone and sense of humour and they werent posts that id actually done a single lazy thing at all. just to cleat that up.0
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Anytime you dont want to log for the day, eat perfectly instead. Looking back over your diary and seeing days you didnt log... pat self on back - you were phenomenal that day :flowerforyou:0
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Hi! I have lost weight plenty of times without logging, as have millions of others, so no, you really don't have to.
I go through phases of logging 'religiously' and logging breaks. Right now I'm on a break. It's not laziness because my life is full of plenty of things I HAVE to do and to choose not to do something optional is just a choice.
As for the 'attacks' in this thread, I think this may just be American sincerity at work. Evangelical sincerity isn't something you really come across elsewhere, I don't think...0 -
... i was just trying to be a little self deprecating and thing.
Heh you sound Canadian - that's our hallmark.
I agree with you about the insulting tone of a lot of the replies that people call "honest." Frankly, I think it's rather lazy to pour forth "advice" that's thinly veiled insulting. IMHO when you read a post to which you feel compelled to respond, it's a good thing to look for the real question and address it rather than nitpicking and looking for opportunities to flame.
Many people gave very good advice, some gave funny tongue-in-cheek advice.
OP live and learn - take the good, chuck the bad, and wear your flak jacket at all times :laugh:0 -
Too right, I agree with the last 2 posts, Canadians and Brits get it, it seems (OK am sure some americans so also) Weight loss is something we try to do, but it isn't a cult you join or your life. There are other things to do and sometimes things more important than always doing the number one thing, and you always got to be able to have a laugh at yourself..... weight loss is part of my new lifestyle but it isnt; my whole life!0
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If you don't want to log then don't but do keep track to whatever calorie amount you limit to. I logged for 3 days before I couldn't be bothered, I have still lost 13 stone 9 pounds in 18 months (191 pounds). I watched what I ate and exercised and that was just walking a lot and using an exercise bike.0
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you know what to do, if you don't want to do it, then don't. It's your health.0
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I'm not going to log in every day, either. I work on the computer. When I get a day off, I don't want to be near a computer. Like tomorrow.
I do, however, have a little notepad in my kitchen so that I can still keep track of intake. I have tried guesstimating, and it never works for me.0 -
working out is great, it really helps firm you up and stops the sagging as you're losing weight, but on it's own will not drop the pounds. Eating really is the key to losing weight. I was a fit overweight person, now I want to be a fit normal weight person. I log daily. this helps me. I stay focused. I find that when I don't log, it's too easy to grab a bite here and there without even realizing it. And I don't mean junk food either... but a couple of extra fruits a day, a half muffin, a protein bar... and you have several hundred extra calories. This is my downfall. So I log.0
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Getting to the point of logging daily has help me get my weight loss going and make my eating habits healthier. I have a record of what I eat soI can see what works and what doesn't. You don't need a smart phone, just a computer.0
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honestly when i feel too lazy to log, i just eat the exact same thing i ate the day before. that way i only have to click a button rather than search the database.
this is why i end up eating so many eggs, salads avocados, berries and chicken thighs
^^ this pretty much fits me, too ^^ - after a few weeks here, I can just use the 'copy to another date' feature.0 -
Looking at this, it seems like some people are confused by your original post. I think there are people who have misread your question, which as I understand it was basically "do I really have to log every day in order to lose weight? It's a pain to log!" Instead they think you are saying, "do I really have to put in any effort at all to lose weight? It's really hard and I would rather sleep all day and inject frosting into my veins until I explode."
I think it can be really useful to log food and exercise religiously.
The reason I gained weight in the first place is that I would constantly underestimate the price I would pay for sitting on my butt all day playing Skyrim and eating Cheetos. So logging semi-religiously really helps remind me what I do not instinctively seem to understand, which is that FOOD HAS CALORIES! More than I ever expect it to have, on any given day.
I generally hate exercise. Maybe this will surprise you. Since I hate to exercise so much, I really want a lot of "credit" when I do it, so I like to log my exercise on MFP and I do eat back. Then sometimes someone is like, "good job!" or "nice burn!" and I am like, "YAY! MY EXERCISE HAS BEEN VALIDATED BY AN EXTERNAL SOURCE!" Maybe that is really silly and vain to feel so pleased at any small recognition, but I prefer to take the positive away from this site.
I agree with the person that said that what you are seeing here as rude and feeling bad about, may be some American "Evangelism" (not the religious kind, we do it about everything!) A lot of Americans also really dislike self-depriciation... many people here see it as "fishing for compliments" which is considered really uncool. And they say we all speak the same language!
If you feel really vulnerable on the forums, try asking your friends first! Then you can test the waters, and you might also get some good answers. You know I will probably send you an essay every time, not that it's necessarily helpful so much as verbose.0 -
The last time I got to goal I decided not to log anymore because I had it down. I can tell you from my experience that the calories you calculate in your head vs what you log can be totally different creatures. So here I am losing the weight all over again because of my failure to log. I have a smart phone but often don't log til I get home from work. It honestly takes very little of my day to do.0
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Also, maybe I shouldn't go here, but... I think sometimes people who have a harsh tone AND disagree or are saying something negative, also have a tendency to pat themselves on the back a ton for "telling it like it is" ...
When in fact nobody is really complaining about their true content so much as their condescending tone.
And, in this case, there was a lot of conjecture, too, right? People assumed that since OP finds logging inconvenient on some days that OP also does not exercise ever, does not care about health, is not losing and doesn't care, etc.? And then were extremely defensive that they were just "telling it like it is". Huh.
I don't really buy the logic that if you go into public space, online or offline, that you are "asking for it" (whatever "it" is). But there is nothing to do with weirdly hostile critiques of your character from strangers, like, at all. Those go in the circular file.0 -
Thank you all! Now how bout that, I am unerstanding the brit and american approaches to self depriation... see here it wouldn't been seen as fishing for compliments beause you'd be unlikely to get any... people just be like 'yeah you right about that' hahahaha.
thanks or the help anyways. Sorry if I had a temper tantrum, i just get really annoyed by people judging me, and spiregain is right, people Aassumed bad ting about me just for not always logging. I know I am doing well.
Sorry, I don't really think people only log to show off, I was just angry.
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I think you all be misread my message. I didn't say I can't be bothered to lose weight (that I now have lost nealry 2 and half stone proves it!!!) I said I can't be bothered to LOG. Dieting is more important that telling people about it, i just wanted some advice about habits of logging.xxx0
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It took me a while to get into the habit of keeping a food journal. But it's a habit - and like all habits it's takes a while to really form.
Some suggestions:
- If you don't want to keep your log on MFP, then maybe some other form of logging is better for you. Maybe just writing in a journal is easier.
- If you're on a computer all the time, maybe doing something in Excel is easier, or even just a Word document.
- On a computer also, how about setting yourself up a checklist of your most common foods so you can just do a checklist.
I used to fight it too, I hated keeping a log. But study after study has shown that it helps. At the very least, it keeps you mindful about what you're eating. It's easy to get lazy about it, but try to find some ways to make it easier for yourself.
Consider this your kick in the butt! :laugh:0 -
Then dont log. If you know what your eating is good and healthy and you know what a portion size looks like then just use what you know. However be aware its very easy to underestimate how much we actually eat when not logging
Logging doesn't help with correctly estimating food intake at all - measuring and weighing does! I don't necessarily log my food every day, but I still weigh everything I eat and know exactly what I can and can't have.
OP - It looks like you know what you're doing, and you're seeing results. Do whatever works for you. If you stop seeing results, go back to controlling more tightly what you eat. But it looks like you don't use your non-logging days as an excuse for cheating, so good for you, I say. The closer you can get to normal life doing this, the better.0 -
Actually so shocked that people who've been in the same position, can be so judgemental. How quickly you forget huh?!0
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I'm the opposite - I love logging in my food choices!
I don't have a smartphone either (boo!) so I just log in at home or at work (shhh, our secret). For me, it's like starting every day with a wallet full of cash (calories) and I get to decide how I'm going to spend it (food). Since my personal account only holds 1200 calories, I have to budget pretty carefully and make good choices.
I love the way you said you look at calories as money in your wallet. So neat!0
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