Protein after workout
Ldysw357
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I'm us this is on here somewhere, but I'm wondering if a protein shake or something would be helpful after strength training? What does it do to help your muscles and will it help with soreness?
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It helps build, repair, and recover your muscles. I have been exercising 5x a week for 1.5-2hours a day on a 1300 calorie diet for the last 3 weeks and i haven't seen the scale budge. I read an article that you should eat about 1g of protien per pound you weigh and tried that the last 2 days and have dropped 3 pounds in 2 days and my arms didn't hurt so much today as they normally do. Heres a link to what i read... http://www.acaloriecounter.com/diet/how-much-protein-per-day/ good luck!!0
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Yes. Ideally you want a mixture of protein and carbohydrates in a 4:1 ratio. It doesn't have to be a protein shake. Low fat chocolate milk is cheaper and just as effective. This is to repair muscle and replenish glycogen stores.
Edit: It's not a protein per pound of bodyweight. It protein per pound of LEAN body mass. Protein, just like any other other nutrient, if in excess will just be stored as fat or excreeted.0 -
It helps build, repair, and recover your muscles. I have been exercising 5x a week for 1.5-2hours a day on a 1300 calorie diet for the last 3 weeks and i haven't seen the scale budge. I read an article that you should eat about 1g of protien per pound you weigh and tried that the last 2 days and have dropped 3 pounds in 2 days and my arms didn't hurt so much today as they normally do. Heres a link to what i read... http://www.acaloriecounter.com/diet/how-much-protein-per-day/ good luck!!
Great article! Thank you. I find myself in the same situation as you i will boost up my protein. also a bit of advice try to up your cals a little to give your metabolism a boost-see if this helps as well.0 -
It would be very helpful just make sure you get 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight a day!0
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My trainer says protein protein protein. a pice of Banana before strength training, and protein after. And yes 1g of Protein for 1lb of weight wold be great, bt depending on how mch you weigh that cold be hard..0
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it helps with the recovery, they say you should take it ASAP after your workout, so its best to just carry a shaker and powder (if you are using powder) to the gym with you0
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Yup recovery shake or meal (protein and simple carbs) in the first hour after training is best...helps those muscles recover, gives them some fuel to mend and grow...0
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The truth is, unless you are planning to do another intense workout the same day (think pro athlete training), there is no need to refuel immediately after the gm. You will refuel at your next meal.
The 30 minute window is something that was popular among bodybuilding crowds but is not necessary.
That said, I eat after the gym because I am usually hungry then. I use protein powder to help reach my protein goals and it's a quick and filling snack so often my post workout meal is protein shake.0 -
It would be very helpful just make sure you get 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight a day!
Actually that's per pound of lean body mass. Huge difference for overweight people. And actually you can go as low as .8g per pound LBM.0 -
^That is true.
Also true is the thing about protein windows. I don't delay too much in getting protein after a workout, but it takes a while for the body to process it and get it into the blood also. I actually usually eat some protein ~2 hours before working out so it's already starting to get into the bloodstream by the time the muscles start to need it.0 -
Thanks everyone for some great information!0
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Yup recovery shake or meal (protein and simple carbs) in the first hour after training is best...helps those muscles recover, gives them some fuel to mend and grow...
Inaccurate. The anabolic window is approximatley 24 hours. There is no need to take a shaker and powder to the gym unless that is your preference.
To quote Alan Aragon:
Alan: The post-exercise “anabolic window” is a highly misused & abused concept. Preworkout nutrition all but cancels the urgency, unless you’re an endurance athlete with multiple glycogen-depleting events in a single day. Getting down to brass tacks, a relatively recent study (Power et al. 2009) showed that a 45g dose of whey protein isolate takes appx. 50 minutes to cause blood AA levels to peak. Resulting insulin levels, which peaked at 40 minutes after ingestion, remained at elevations known to max out the inhibition of muscle protein breakdown (15-30 mU/L) for 120 minutes after ingestion. This dose takes 3 hours for insulin & AA levels to return to baseline from the point of ingestion. The inclusion of carbs to this dose would cause AA & insulin levels to peak higher & stay elevated above baseline even longer.
So much for the anabolic peephole & the urgency to down AAs during your weight training workout; they are already seeping into circulation (& will continue to do so after your training bout is done). Even in the event that a preworkout meal is skipped, the anabolic effect of the postworkout meal is increased as a supercompensatory response (Deldicque et al, 2010). Moving on, another recent study (Staples et al, 2010) found that a substantial dose of carbohydrate (50g maltodextrin) added to 25g whey protein was unable to further increase post-exercise net muscle protein balance compared to the protein dose without carbs. Again, this is not to say that adding carbs at this point is counterproductive, but it certainly doesn’t support the idea that you must get your lightning-fast post-exercise carb orgy for optimal results.
Something that people don’t realize is that there’s no “magic anabolic window” that’s open for a short period of time near the workout & then rapidly disappears. As a result of a single training bout, the receptivity of muscle to protein dosing can persist for at least 24 hours (Burd et al, 2011).0 -
The first law of nutrient timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.
The second law of nutrient timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.
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I couldn't find that.
I even googled specifically googled Alan Aragon too.0 -
I read something a while ago about the hour after the workout being called " the Golden Hour" because that's when you need to have protein and higher glycemic carbs to help restore your glycogen levels. I always try to eat something according to this principle and it helps me keep on my plan without getting crazy hungry. JMO0
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To the poster who quoted aragon, some of us are on low carb ratios anyway, so we also need the carbs rather than the protein to replenish the lost stores....just saying...0
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To the poster who quoted aragon, some of us are on low carb ratios anyway, so we also need the carbs rather than the protein to replenish the lost stores....just saying...
Oh ffs...the rule still applies. Why the hell do some people tend to think that the body is just a massive pipe that nutrients fall out of as soon as you dump them in? It takes hours for the body to fully process anything you put in it.
Twenty-four hours makes FAR more sense than 30 minutes to an hour, if you...ya know, think about it, instead of just believing the random **** people come up with.0 -
My trainer says protein protein protein. a pice of Banana before strength training, and protein after. And yes 1g of Protein for 1lb of weight wold be great, bt depending on how mch you weigh that cold be hard..
im actually getting ready to start taking protein to boost some weight loss... however im VERY over weight... what would you suggest is a good amount of protein for a 5'4" female that weighs 231lbs ...cause im sure taking in THAT many grams of protein would be ridiculous?0 -
Oh ffs...the rule still applies. Why the hell do some people tend to think that the body is just a massive pipe that nutrients fall out of as soon as you dump them in? It takes hours for the body to fully process anything you put in it.
Twenty-four hours makes FAR more sense than 30 minutes to an hour, if you...ya know, think about it, instead of just believing the random **** people come up with.
No need to be a rude *kitten*, I have read quite a lot of literature and not some dumb *kitten* random **** as you put it, Keep calm and to each their own...
p.s. it is 1g of protein per LEAN MASS...not your whole weight to the poster above.0 -
in very simple and easy to understand terms.
When you do strength training exercises you are causing a micro tare in your muscles. It is the filling in of these tears that causes your muscles to get bigger over time. Protein is the nutrient that allows your muscle tares to fill in.0 -
To continue the quote...The first law of nutrient timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.
The second law of nutrient timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.
Alan AragonNOTE: Please do not misinterpret the above to mean that timing is irrelevant. On the contrary, it's very relevant. Timing just happens to have MUCH LESS impact on results than hitting your macro totals for the day. This doesn't diminish the fact that people need to individualize their meal timing so that it maximizes their training performance (& does not hinder it).
bdunt2646:
That's more a figure people fairly low body fat people who are trying to gain muscle would use; still that not silly if you're doing a fair bit of exercise. I can hit that and more on some higher exercise days without trying too much.0 -
Some of you may be interested in this book " The FIRST 20 Minutes" it is an interesting book written by a sports and fitness writer for the New York Times (?) but it is not her opinion on things rather she talks about the latest scientific research and interviews a lot of renowned sports physiologists, nutrition and fitness experts, etc- it thoroughly discusses what we know, what we think we know, what we thought we knew but now aren't so sure, etc... and one thing that I thought was great is that the author is not trying to sell us anything, unlike so many links to articles that I see on this site or unlike a book I read from known marathoner Jeff Galloway which was clearly trying to sell me his preferred brand of shakes
also one of the things mentioned in the First 20 minutes, like one of the other respondents says - low fat chocolate milk does seem to have the perfect protein to carb ratio for many and, that unless you are hardcore working out, chances are you don't need a recovery drink/meal per se0 -
I have found that I need protein before a long run. I will have a steak dinner the night before a marathon. Carb loading does nothing for me.
Before any run of more than 5 miles, I have 1.5 TBS of peanut butter and some greek yogurt. The yogurt is higher in protein that I ever expected.
Protein also helps you feel full longer.
Best thing I've ever had post MAJOR work out is chocolate milk. I don't know what it is about it, but it is fantastic for me for muscle recovery.0 -
Since i have added more protein to my diet ( i eat 135g of protein ) I have dropped 4 pounds- however i will say that i go to the gym 5x a week for at least 2 hours a day... so just use trial-and -error and adjust as you see fit... obviously if someone weighs 400 pounds they are not going to eat 400g of protein- but they could more then likely get away with 200g if they worked out for at least an hour a day 3-4 times a week...0
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My husband's been doing the P90X and Insanity workouts, and they tell him to have a protein shake within 30 minutes of working out.
I asked a trainer about it, and it's supposed to help reduce soreness, and has the amino acids in it to help build muscle.
He typically uses the AMP protein powder from GNC. A friend of mine uses that and another from Chocolite (Healthsmart foods).0 -
I have only been working out for about 8 1/2 weeks and am doing a nutritional shake/protein shake meal replacement for 2 meals a day and have lost almos 20 pounds and 34 inches. But I have only been using myfitnesspal for the last week. In doing some research I have found that if you are VERY overweight, like myself, it says you should use your TARGET weight as the number to go by to determine your necessary proteins, not your current weight. If you follow this article http://www.acaloriecounter.com/diet/how-much-protein-per-day/ and then work it back to the beginning and then to the end, you might find the most useful information on calores, fat, protein, carbs and such.0
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