I DONT GET IT, SOME PEOPLES FOOD INTAKE CONFUSE ME
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I would also suggest not to follow their lead. Losing weight doesn't mean they are healthy, because they are not healthy if all they are eating is junk. Thin people can have heart attacks and cholesterol problems as well, so even though weight loss IS a numbers game with calories, it is better to eat GOOD calories than rubbish ones.0
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Whats the big deal?
I eat haagen dazs or ben and jerry's almost every night anymore
A little processed food wont set you back0 -
How is it on peoples food diary they have candy bars, pkgd processed foods, all kinds of junk and they make it under or on their calorie goals. I have all kinds of good food with an exception of one can of pop once in awhile and im always way over a target. I dont get it...lol
Comparing yourself with others is always a slippery slope. Both with types of foods and amount of calories. Everyone is different, everyone needs to start somewhere, everyone has different RMR, stress, situations, diet backgrounds, etc.
Too many changes at once can be hard on some people. I've always eaten healthy so it easy for me to simply eat less. Eating at a calorie deficit is hard on people; even a small deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones and such. Everyone is different. Some people can handle a deeper calorie deficit than others, this is not right or wrong, it just is. Stress in your life affects your hunger hormones; lack of sleep, fatigue, job stress, family stress, financial stress, etc. Add in emotional eating issues and it gets even more complicated. Most people can only handle so much change/stress at once, they try to do too much and fail. Sometimes it might be a better strategy to eat at maintenance and make some small changes first, it really depends on how much stress you are taking in at the moment.
All that matters is calories. A healthy balanced diet within a calorie budget for a deficit that is right for YOU is all that matters for weight loss. Don't make it complicated.0 -
I would also like to paoint out that just because people eat junk food does not mean they are unhealthy either.0
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Thin people can get heart disease, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, etc. One can definitely lose weight eating only high caloriej junk food, but they will still be malnourshed. This leads to illness and a shorter life span.
Keep doing what you're doing. You will be better off in the long run. You may need to adjust your macros a bit so you don't feel so hungry. I felt better after increasing fiber to 35-50 grams a day and set my protein and fat to 30%. Everyone is diffent, so keep tweaking your plan until you find what works for you.0 -
You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
No they wont. If they stay within a balance or deficit of caloric intake they will not gain the weight back. They may not achieve the body composition they want or health they want, but they can manage their weight with only twinkies if they wanted to.
I think the point is that if you don't change your eating habits, when you DO reach your goal, it's going to be much more likely you will put the weight back on. Just eating less junk will result in weight loss, sure, but, at some point your going to want to go off a calorie deficit - if you do so and still are used to eating junk, at some point the odds are you're going to end up gaining it back, because you haven't really learned to make healthier food choices. Unless of course you plan on counting calories every day for the rest of your life, AND not worrying about nutrition. I eat junk too, today and yesterday are perfect examples - however - these days are exceptions, not the rule for me, and currently I'm dealing with a great deal of stress. My challenge is overcoming the stress eating - as I KNOW if I don't I'll have that issue to deal with. Having healthier food habits is more likely to lead to long term success just by the shear fact that you aren't likely to sit and eat 5 apples for a snack, but, you could easily eat 2 candy bars for the same amount of calories - hence less than half the calories consumed for the healthier, more nutritious, option.
Speaking from experience - I've done it both ways. More likely to succeed long term with healthier choices, just by sheer fact that most people aren't going to live on 2 twinkies and 5 pieces of pizza a day for the rest of their life if they're junk food junkies. They need to learn to make healthier food choices for all around health - not just the number on the scale.0 -
Though this is a "diet" site, it really is about a lifestyle. People can diet all they want, but many people on here try to find a lifestyle that works for them...and sometimes that means some junk food. Part of tracking is figuring out what you eat, then trying to stay with in calorie goals, and then making choices of how to stay in that goal. Sometimes, I am willing to "spend" my calories on a glass of wine instead of something healthier, but that is the lifestyle choice I'm making knowing that 95% of my other choices are healthy. You keep eating the healthy foods, and if you splurge sometimes, it's all good.0
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Portion control. Or their target is higher than yours.0
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No reason to be jealous of those who fill their bodies with garbage....you are what you eat0
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I still think people may underestimate their portion sizes. I'm always over, but I figure in the long run its better to know and be over then live in oblivion.0
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If a person eats junk food within his limits he will not gain weight. Dont forget junk food is not 100% fat it does have some fibre and protein. Also younger people tend to have a faster matabolism and if the person who eats junk food still is exercising he will have a better chance at lossing weight.0
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OK know it all.You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
No they wont. If they stay within a balance or deficit of caloric intake they will not gain the weight back. They may not achieve the body composition they want or health they want, but they can manage their weight with only twinkies if they wanted to.
Why name calling? He's right, if you stay under your calorie intake goal and eat junk, you will not gain weight. There's a reason the ridiculous Twinkie experiment diets actually work. They're eating a reduced number of calories even though they're eating junk.0 -
Good to know the Dairy Queen choco mint brownie Blizzard I shared at lunch today will pack back on 81#.You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
I eat the so-called "junk" food. I budget for it. Dessert after lunch and supper keep me from sticking a knife in peoples' chests.
Like the Five Guys cheeseburger (with extra cheese, of course) that is on the agenda for tonight's dinner.... and which is why I was up at 4AM for my workout
It's not all or nothing -- it's entirely possible to lose weight, keep it off, and get HEALTHY even with the occasional junk/processed food tossed in for fun and flavor.0 -
I eat "dirty" all the time and my blood workout always comes out stellar. I've never been over weight in the slightest.0
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You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
really? i eat candy, processed food etc and have maintained without struggling for around 8 months now.0 -
Good to know the Dairy Queen choco mint brownie Blizzard I shared at lunch today will pack back on 81#.
I eat the so-called "junk" food. I budget for it. Dessert after lunch and supper keep me from sticking a knife in peoples' chests.
LOL at the knife scenario. I budget for junk food every day, too. Specifically, chocolate! It looks like a lot in my diary, but I balance it out with healthy foods and my macros come out looking good most days. I lost 5 lbs last week and 4 more since Monday, so the chocolate is definitely not hurting my weight loss. :laugh:
Congrats on losing 81 lbs! And not sticking a knife in anyone's chest. :laugh:0 -
I've wondered the same thing. Most people use a lot of "bad" food for snacks, which is all right if you do it in moderation. I find that if I "monkey" too much with snack chocolate bars or etc, I don't have very good results. Some people eat some of the bad stuff, and then exercise like crazy. I can't do that 'cause it puts me in the wrong frame of mind...I am a person that needs to stay focused to have good results.0
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OK know it all.You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
No they wont. If they stay within a balance or deficit of caloric intake they will not gain the weight back. They may not achieve the body composition they want or health they want, but they can manage their weight with only twinkies if they wanted to.
You do know that you sound like a bit of a know it all too, right?0 -
There is nothing else to go by except what ppl list. The question is are
they listing everything they eat during the course of the day.0 -
I've done this before, the loosing weight thing. I would cut out "bad" foods, eat only small quantities of "good" food and, shockingly, I couldn't keep that lifestyle up and gained everything back.
This time, armed with my newfound knowledge of TDEE/ Net Calories/ BMR/ etc, I decided to throw caution to the wind and eat reasonable portions of reasonable foods and not worry so much about it. I don't eat fried foods, cake, candy, pop all the time, but I do eat them. Completely without guilt, I might add! I've lost that 35 pounds in my ticker since July and this is the first time ever that I felt I knew how I did it and how to keep it off without it being an emotional and physical drain. This has been an exercise in learning what is going into my body and learning better ways to eat the foods that I like.
So, I had that fried fish the other day and will have a slice of cake today without feeling like I failed myself AND still revel in the fact that the scale is still dropping :happy:
TL;DR- They plan around the foods they want to eat and are hopefully happy and satisfied
Thank you for saying this!! I could have written this post myself! I have lost so much weight in the past, but always gained it back because it was a completely different way of eating that I couldn't mentally stick to. This time I am trying to eat "more reasonable" food and focusing on portion control and have lost 36 lbs since July. And knowing that I can plan my food to allow any damn thing I want, makes the "naughty" food seem so much less desirable. It takes all the emotions of deprivation out of the picture and I can look at food in a "is it worth it?" sort of way. Most of the time it's just not worth it to eat 1 burger vs. a huge lunch of healthy food for the same calories. Most of the time... 0 -
The poison is in the dosage!!!!0
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You don't have to understand other peoples ways....in fact this post is just plain snarky. What works for them shouldn't concern u as long as it isn't dangerous0
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OK know it all.You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
No they wont. If they stay within a balance or deficit of caloric intake they will not gain the weight back. They may not achieve the body composition they want or health they want, but they can manage their weight with only twinkies if they wanted to.
Lolz - I have no idea if they are a know it all, but they know more than you on this particular topic.0 -
It's awesome that you are filling your diet with healthy foods. Don't worry about what other people are eating. I personally love sweets. The last time I lost weight I cut sweets out completely and ended up gaining back 3x what I lost because I went on a sugar binge. Now I know that if I swear those foods out of my diet, I will eventually snap and binge. As long as I'm staying within my calorie goal, it's peachy.0
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OK know it all.You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
No they wont. If they stay within a balance or deficit of caloric intake they will not gain the weight back. They may not achieve the body composition they want or health they want, but they can manage their weight with only twinkies if they wanted to.
Why name calling? He's right, if you stay under your calorie intake goal and eat junk, you will not gain weight. There's a reason the ridiculous Twinkie experiment diets actually work. They're eating a reduced number of calories even though they're eating junk.
all this twinkie talk..... i think i'm going to go on the twinkie diet and lose weight just to piss people off when they asked how i lost weight
think of how awesome that conversation would be " i eat twinkies to lose weight, nothing at all except for twinkies, and lost 20 pounds" :laugh: 0 -
I've done this before, the loosing weight thing. I would cut out "bad" foods, eat only small quantities of "good" food and, shockingly, I couldn't keep that lifestyle up and gained everything back.
This time, armed with my newfound knowledge of TDEE/ Net Calories/ BMR/ etc, I decided to throw caution to the wind and eat reasonable portions of reasonable foods and not worry so much about it. I don't eat fried foods, cake, candy, pop all the time, but I do eat them. Completely without guilt, I might add! I've lost that 35 pounds in my ticker since July and this is the first time ever that I felt I knew how I did it and how to keep it off without it being an emotional and physical drain. This has been an exercise in learning what is going into my body and learning better ways to eat the foods that I like.
So, I had that fried fish the other day and will have a slice of cake today without feeling like I failed myself AND still revel in the fact that the scale is still dropping :happy:
TL;DR- They plan around the foods they want to eat and are hopefully happy and satisfied
Dido I agree, in the past I tried to go clean in dieting and I failed everytime..Now I am learning portion control and if I want something eat it and move on, before I would eat it and feel guilty and I would just gain everything and plus some back... people should do what they feel will work for them, now if they complain that they are not losing and do not understand than that is on them and they need to re evaluate things and notice that the bad food is causing them to eat bad..I am 50/50 and I am fine with that, I am almost 20 pounds down in 2 months..and I am exercising regularly and if I want some pizza I will eat a slice or two if my allowance allow for me to..I do not eat whatever I take in consideration how much I am eating and is it worth it..0 -
I eat pretty healthy, but I also eat candy or other processed food once in a while. Just because I like and it fits in my calorie goal. If I have room for it and I have a desire to eat it, I eat what ever I want - for example a wunderbar bar. Yummy! I also eat Pizza (a whole of course) and burgers (but only organic veggie burgers in a local restaurant, not that crap at McDonalds).
I eat so much healthy stuff, I don't have problems with eating delicous sins once in a while.
For example - to night we'll gone have a great swiss cheese fondue with baguette, potatos, veggies and salat. A and won't forget the wine and Schnaps afterwards. Yeah!0 -
WHo really cares what other people eat?
The way I see it, if I want some wings and they fit in my calorie budget why not? If I want a candy bar and it fits, why not?
I go to the gym, I work hard, I have a pretty balanced diet. So... I'd rather treat myself if it fits...
Rather than end up holed in my house for a week eating every single bit of bad food I can get my hands on, laughing like a manic.0 -
How is it on peoples food diary they have candy bars, pkgd processed foods, all kinds of junk and they make it under or on their calorie goals. I have all kinds of good food with an exception of one can of pop once in awhile and im always way over a target. I dont get it...lol
I never concern myself with what other people are eating or doing to diet. All things in moderation. Remember that if you completely deprive yourself you're more likely to give up and go back to your old ways. Just do what works best for you and don't mind what others are doing. Their life is not yours.0 -
Got any evidence to back that up.You just stick with the good food you are eating. People who continue to eat garbage, just less garbage, WILL gain any loss back... trust that.
Watched 'fat head'? (I haven't, but I believe it covers this topic in decent detail.)
Me; I'm going to be putting it back on if I don't have a bit of what people consider 'garbage'.
I've been doing a fair bit of exercise recently; . Therefore I fund this interesting:
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
Happy to eat a fair bit of what people consider 'garbage' and it seems to be working just fine for me. Don't notice any difference between when trying to eat 'clean' and whatever I want.
Of course, I do have to do more exercise to make up for it - unfortunately I do have a decent appetite.0
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