Coconut oil in my coffee- making me RAVENOUS

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  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    Bumping because I'd also like to hear what others think regarding the health benifits of refined v's virgin coconut oil. I'd like to use the virgin for cooking but I've heard the refined is better at tollerating high heat. Thoughts anyone?

    I've just started using extra virgin coconut oil. I have some in a little container for my hair and skin and I also have some in the kitchen for cooking. I'm using coconut oil primarily because I am looking for something easy to boost up my cals and also because I love the smell of coconut and often use coconut products on my skin anyway so thought i'd just go natural for a change. As for health benefits between refined/virgin... it's a good fat, thats all I care about.

    I actually don't use oil for cooking often at all so actually remembering to use it is usually a struggle but the times I have remembered its been great. Goes great on high heat, much better than any other oils I've used. It can put a little bit of a different taste into food but not much really.

    Thanks starla :) Have you ever used it on the BBQ? We use a spray can of virgin coconut oil on it.
  • Flowers4Julia
    Flowers4Julia Posts: 521 Member
    I hear what you are saying, but it DOES keep me fuller longer....I wonder why it makes you hungrier......is there other stuff going on in the diet?
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    I've tried the coconut oil in my coffee but I only used a teaspoon because I'm small. I blended it with the coffee with a hand blender and it frothed, it was truly yummy. But I didn't notice an effect, I just like the taste. Then I started heading to the gym with zero calories so just drink my coffee with english toffee stevia now. I save the coconut oil for cooking or making popcorn (yum!).

    I've found that hunger kind of comes in cycles. Eating at a calorie deficit is hard on people; even a small deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones and such. Everyone is different. Some people can handle a deeper calorie deficit than others, this is not right or wrong, it just is. Stress in your life affects your hunger hormones; lack of sleep, fatigue, job stress, family stress, financial stress, etc. Add in emotional eating issues and it gets even more complicated. Most people can only handle so much change/stress at once, they try to do too much and fail. Sometimes it might be a better strategy to eat at maintenance and make some small changes first, it really depends on how much stress you are taking in at the moment.

    It may or may not be the coconut oil causing the hunger. It could be many things.
  • t_nikki
    t_nikki Posts: 16
    I'm very familiar with putting fat in my coffee, as I do it every morning and have been for the last 7 months. I believe that with some people it does not create a insulin spike and in some it will. It made me hungry so I replaced it with real butter, Kerry Gold is the best. In fact, at Starbucks they give out a pat of Kerry Gold butter with their coffees because the health trend is so popular right now. Once I replaced the coconut oil with butter and used Heavy whipping cream instead of coffemate I felt full usually until lunch time. I recenlty started to use coffemate creamer again and I believe that is what has caused me to be super hungry! The sugar count says 0 grams in the coffeecreamer BUT the first ingredient listed is Corn Syrup....GO FIGURE!! Try your coffee with pure butter, not margarine and see how that works.
  • Starla_
    Starla_ Posts: 349
    Bumping because I'd also like to hear what others think regarding the health benifits of refined v's virgin coconut oil. I'd like to use the virgin for cooking but I've heard the refined is better at tollerating high heat. Thoughts anyone?

    I've just started using extra virgin coconut oil. I have some in a little container for my hair and skin and I also have some in the kitchen for cooking. I'm using coconut oil primarily because I am looking for something easy to boost up my cals and also because I love the smell of coconut and often use coconut products on my skin anyway so thought i'd just go natural for a change. As for health benefits between refined/virgin... it's a good fat, thats all I care about.

    I actually don't use oil for cooking often at all so actually remembering to use it is usually a struggle but the times I have remembered its been great. Goes great on high heat, much better than any other oils I've used. It can put a little bit of a different taste into food but not much really.

    Thanks starla :) Have you ever used it on the BBQ? We use a spray can of virgin coconut oil on it.

    Not yet but over christmas it will probably get a workout :)
  • KLo924
    KLo924 Posts: 379 Member
    I'm not a huge breakfast person. I don't usually get hungry until about 3-4 hours after I get up, before that the thought of food kind of makes me naseaus, so I just drink a cup of coffee until I'm hungry.

    This is really talking out of my a**, but, I find that when I haven't eaten in a long time I get to be a sort of fake full. When I do eat a little bit after that sort of time I realize how hungry I am. Maybe the bit of nutrition, as opposed to just the coffee and calorie-free sugar substitute, is jogging your appetite in the same way?

    Edit: Maybe putting that CO in a smoothie with a little yerba mate for a little caffeine could be a healthful switch from no breakfast, while keeping the CO?
  • tyraskanks_
    tyraskanks_ Posts: 229
    My brother eats it right from the spoon.
  • Motleybird
    Motleybird Posts: 119 Member
    I've been putting coconut oil in my coffee for about six weeks or so. My appetite did increase, but not, I think, because of the coconut oil. It increased a couple weeks after I started, when I added in more snacks. In other words, I spread my calories more evenly through the day, and that made me more hungry. Hopefully, that means my metabolism woke up.

    I put real sugar, cocoa powder, coconut oil and cinnamon in my coffee. The unsweetened cocoa makes a little bit of sludge at the bottom of the cup, but, it's chocolate! I'm not any more hungry in the morning than I was before. The hunger comes more at night for me.
  • Sailorwind
    Sailorwind Posts: 158 Member
    I've tried the coconut oil in my coffee but I only used a teaspoon because I'm small. I blended it with the coffee with a hand blender and it frothed, it was truly yummy. But I didn't notice an effect, I just like the taste. Then I started heading to the gym with zero calories so just drink my coffee with english toffee stevia now. I save the coconut oil for cooking or making popcorn (yum!).

    I've found that hunger kind of comes in cycles. Eating at a calorie deficit is hard on people; even a small deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones and such. Everyone is different. Some people can handle a deeper calorie deficit than others, this is not right or wrong, it just is. Stress in your life affects your hunger hormones; lack of sleep, fatigue, job stress, family stress, financial stress, etc. Add in emotional eating issues and it gets even more complicated. Most people can only handle so much change/stress at once, they try to do too much and fail. Sometimes it might be a better strategy to eat at maintenance and make some small changes first, it really depends on how much stress you are taking in at the moment.

    It may or may not be the coconut oil causing the hunger. It could be many things.

    I got caught up on the mention of english toffee stevia. Where did you find this?! It sounds delicious.
  • Sailorwind
    Sailorwind Posts: 158 Member
    I'm not a huge breakfast person. I don't usually get hungry until about 3-4 hours after I get up, before that the thought of food kind of makes me naseaus, so I just drink a cup of coffee until I'm hungry.

    This is really talking out of my a**, but, I find that when I haven't eaten in a long time I get to be a sort of fake full. When I do eat a little bit after that sort of time I realize how hungry I am. Maybe the bit of nutrition, as opposed to just the coffee and calorie-free sugar substitute, is jogging your appetite in the same way?

    Edit: Maybe putting that CO in a smoothie with a little yerba mate for a little caffeine could be a healthful switch from no breakfast, while keeping the CO?
    That's an interesting theory. I will have to look into that. it's possible.

    I did take the advice of an earlier poster and change my daily calorie goals by a bit.
  • caseyg9888
    caseyg9888 Posts: 36
    I had the same problem mixing it in my coffee. So I started eating a tablespoon straight and it made me so nauseous I wasn't hungry for hours :-)
  • vicyvix
    vicyvix Posts: 47 Member
    Can I be the one to say that coconut oil isn't particularly good for you! It's got one of the worst fat profiles of all the oils and is really high in saturated fats (that can lead to an increase in cholesterol etc)
    I've heard a lot about the reputed health benefits of coconut oil and my mum even tried it a few years ago but I worry its just one of those fads with not much scientific evidence (but feel free to contradict me if you've read any scientific papers about it!)
    Maybe those 140kcal would be better spent on a banana or some sort of filling and nutrient-rich food as well as using a healthier fat like rapeseed oil for cooking.
  • Sailorwind
    Sailorwind Posts: 158 Member
    Can I be the one to say that coconut oil isn't particularly good for you! It's got one of the worst fat profiles of all the oils and is really high in saturated fats (that can lead to an increase in cholesterol etc)
    I've heard a lot about the reputed health benefits of coconut oil and my mum even tried it a few years ago but I worry its just one of those fads with not much scientific evidence (but feel free to contradict me if you've read any scientific papers about it!)
    Maybe those 140kcal would be better spent on a banana or some sort of filling and nutrient-rich food as well as using a healthier fat like rapeseed oil for cooking.
    This link has a compendium of medical studies done on CO:
    http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/Coconut Research-Coconut Research Center.pdf

    Now, to be fair, I have liberal arts degrees, so reading these things often feels like I'm back in high school algebra doing word problems in one of THOSE dreams, but from what I can tell the general gist seems to be the effect on cholesterol does not seem too bad but that it seems to be upping the metabolism and working on waist circumference fat. I figure, if it doesn't work a few weeks trial shouldn't damage my cholesterol too badly. I've never been prone to high cholesterol, though.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    When I was using coconut oil in my coffee, it was keeping me satisfied so I could wait 2 hours before eating. Worked well for me.

    haven't heard of it giving the opposite effect, weird.

    This is my experience also.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Can I be the one to say that coconut oil isn't particularly good for you! It's got one of the worst fat profiles of all the oils and is really high in saturated fats (that can lead to an increase in cholesterol etc)
    I've heard a lot about the reputed health benefits of coconut oil and my mum even tried it a few years ago but I worry its just one of those fads with not much scientific evidence (but feel free to contradict me if you've read any scientific papers about it!)
    Maybe those 140kcal would be better spent on a banana or some sort of filling and nutrient-rich food as well as using a healthier fat like rapeseed oil for cooking.

    You can also be the one that is WRONG.

    Coconut oil is one of the healthiest, if not the healthiest fat on the face of this earth.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with saturated fat.

    Please educate yourself with some scientific evidence. People have been using every part of the coconut for thousands upon thousands of years and most of these people are way healthier than the average American with their low fat and PUFA infused way of eating, which is very unhealthy.

    Canola (rapeseed) oil is among the worst due to oxidation and being rancid before it ever makes it to the store shelves.

    http://www.stop-trans-fat.com/benefits-of-saturated_fats.html

    http://trusted.md/blog/vreni_gurd/2007/04/06/saturated_fat_the_misunderstood_nutrient#axzz0zknkn0yT

    http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/nutrition/saturated_fat.htm
  • Sailorwind
    Sailorwind Posts: 158 Member
    Try not to be too harsh. I have a feeling most people have a hard time with the same transition I had a hard time with once I started actually researching food a bit more seriously. We are ingrained to believe fat (especially saturated fat) and sugar are "bad" and low fat and low sugar things are "good" and that it's all about the calories. But in reality, a calorie is not just a calorie, a fat is not just a fat, and low-fat, low-sugar usually means they substituted in something else, often alchohol sugars which are processed the exact same way as ACTUAL sugar without having to be reported as sugars except that they also raise the carbs. It takes a lot to be able to finally come to terms with the fact that all calories are not created equal, neither are all fats and that there IS such a thing as a "good" fat, in fact there are many, and that the ingredient list is at least as important as the nutrition label. A month ago, I'd have agreed that coconut oil is the WORST kind because it's all saturated fat. At that point I had never even heard of an MCT or LCT or that oil oxidezes when heated and what that does to it, and my opinion would have been based on reading that saturated is worse than unsaturated.
  • Espressocycle
    Espressocycle Posts: 2,245 Member
    I refuse to believe a spoonful of coconut oil does a damned thing.
  • jeh123
    jeh123 Posts: 5
    I know it has been a while since you posted this, but I think your problem with using the refined instead of the organic natural unrefined. It should taste like coconut. And if it is in liquid form already I wouldnt use it. I hope this helps and hopefully you are still well on your way to your goal.
  • jigsaw44
    jigsaw44 Posts: 1
    I love coconut oil in my coffee and it does keep me fuller longer. Make sure you are using Virgin coconut oil. :smile:
  • Raffi526
    Raffi526 Posts: 1
    1400 calories a day is not good. Instead of counting calories, you should stay away from processed foods, meats, and plant-based grain (wheat, barley, rice, etc.). For more information, you should take a look at the paleo diet. It has done wonders for me. And to answer your question about CO in coffee it's actually beneficial as you will get all your necessary fats (MCT: medium chain tryglyceride) and vitamins. Also, you should add a tablespoon of grassfed unsalted butter and mix it in the blender. This coffee will keep you on your feet with tons of energy without the horrible crash of coffee and it won't give you the jitters. This concoction is called "Bulletproof Coffee". Look into it, it's super good for you, and most of all it's so delicious. If made correctly, it will taste like a late. Mmmm.
  • stevejohnson1019
    stevejohnson1019 Posts: 1
    It's supposed to be 1T coconut oil and 1T grass fed unsalted butter.

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