Weight gain this week :(

Well, disappointing. I actually had a weight gain of 0.6 kg (1.3 lb) this week putting me exactly back where I was two weeks ago. :(

Total weight loss so far is 58.5 lb.

I have no explanation for it. I've been sticking with my diet and exercise every day.

I'll try not to be depressed and carry on.
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  • Odiliawine
    Odiliawine Posts: 116 Member
    Could it be that you're keeping your calories too low for the amount of activity that you do? If you are then your body is trying to do some conserving. You can try upping your calories 300-400 and see if that'll get you anywhere?
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Well, disappointing. I actually had a weight gain of 0.6 kg (1.3 lb) this week putting me exactly back where I was two weeks ago. :(

    Total weight loss so far is 58.5 lb.

    I have no explanation for it. I've been sticking with my diet and exercise every day.

    I'll try not to be depressed and carry on.

    Do this. Weight loss isn't linear. Sometimes, even when you're doing everything right, the scale can be volatile and unpredictable. Now if you go four or six weeks without any progress, then you may want to reconsider your approach...but until then, assuming you're doing most of the "right" things, keep calm and carry on.

    (Of course, you may want to consider other metrics besides scale weight, like measurements. These tend to be a little less volatile.)
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    How long have you gone without a diet break? If it's been straight through since the beginning, might be time for a full diet break. I wrote a blog about it when I did it, including some links to articles written by more knowledgeable people than myself. :)

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/MoreBean13
  • Peazwithin
    Peazwithin Posts: 41 Member
    I am so glad you have decided not to be depressed. That means both the scale and the numbers no longer hold you and your happiness hostage! You have lost so much weight! That accomplishment did not happen over night! I don't know how much exercise you are getting in, but if you are working out and on plan, then it could be a number of factors. Like: muscle weights more than fat (so that could explain a "weight gain"! Or it could be just plain old fashioned water gain (at least that is what happens to us girly-girls!). I guess the biggest think I would want for you is to not be discouraged and fall off the wagon face first! You have come so far! I would give myself a week. Continue to chart my food, eat on plan and continue with whatever exercise you are doing and chart it on MFP.. After that week if you feel like it, weigh then. If not, keep it moving and stay encouraged knowing you are doing all the things it takes to make you healthy and happy. Take your measurements. Sometimes that is more telling than that mean scale you seem to own. And um, if it keeps talking mean to you, I might go shopping for a new high-end model that tells you weight, hydration, fat. bmi and that you are doing a great job! (Okay, I am still looking for the scale that says the last part....) :wink:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Could it be that you're keeping your calories too low for the amount of activity that you do? If you are then your body is trying to do some conserving. You can try upping your calories 300-400 and see if that'll get you anywhere?

    How can you offer this suggestion when you have no idea as to his current calorie intake?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    What is your current calorie intake and how long have you been eating at a deficit?
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    What is your current calorie intake and how long have you been eating at a deficit?

    What I was going to ask!
    =D
  • douglerner
    douglerner Posts: 237 Member
    Thanks for your replies, people.

    My theoretical calorie limit is supposed to be 1800/day, but I rarely go above 1300. It's just the way it works out. And with about 300 calories of exercise, net calories tend to be about 1000 - 1100.

    Still for the "starvation mode" believers amongst us... I just don't believe it. If there is a starvation/conservation mode researchers say it doesn't occur until you hit a low of about 1000 calories per day. Mostly I believe starvation/conservation is a dieter's wishful thinking. :)

    Of course I COULD try increasing my calories by 300 a day without any risk at all of getting near my limit. Another bowl of rice maybe?

    This is my 28th week of being at a calorie deficit - without even going off my diet one time!

    About diet breaks - to be honest, in my case, it would be like telling an alcoholic who has been sober for 6 months, "It's ok to have just one drink." I can't imagine in any way taking a diet break and then not finding an excuse to hold off on getting back on the diet. I never make any exceptions - not for birthdays, not for weddings, not for holidays, not for trips. Never.

    I guess I'm not in a particular rush. It's just that I got so close to getting under 100 kg - my weight was 101.8 kg last week - that I was REALLY hoping to get into two-digits before the end of the year, for the first time in ages. But with this 0.6 kg weight gain I'm back to 102.4 kg making it look really really close.

    And then MyFitnessPal predicts "If you eat like today you'll be at 97 kg in 5 weeks" and I roll my eyes and say, "Riiight."

    I'll see what happens over the next few days...

    Thanks, people!

    doug
  • maz_z
    maz_z Posts: 55
    dont stress.

    .6 kg is absolutely nothing! just work hard this week and you will be rewarded :)

    i agree with the guys above, maybe you need to eat a few more calories, sometimes this actually increases weight loss!
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    You are eating way too little. Food is good for you, don't be scared of it. You'll still lose if you up it a few hundred.
  • 1000 calories is way too little for a dude. Eat!!!
  • well said :)
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Try this and see if it helps.
    Friend request if you decide to give it a go.
    Basically it sets you up with a static number youll eat daily regardless of exercise.
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12
  • You're definitely not eating enough. Add more protein, not carbs.
  • charelg
    charelg Posts: 599 Member
    Me too :(
  • I love your quote on your ticker that is hilarious!
  • douglerner
    douglerner Posts: 237 Member
    HelloItsDan - thanks for your reply. I'm afraid I don't understand the long and detailed post you linked to though!

    About calories - if I'm not in starvation mode, I don't see how adding MORE calories can help. I'm willing to try the experiment though and will add about 300 calories a day for a while and see if that makes a difference. If you're not in starvation mode though - and believe me I'm not - I don't see how it can help. It has to hurt. But we'll see. As long as I don't exceed my 1800 calorie/day limit I'm willing to try.

    About protein - I'm eating on the low end of the WHO acceptable standard of protein. I'm on an Ornish/Essystyn-like diet for heart health: vegan, no added oils, no nuts/seeds. So eating carbohydrates is fundamental to the diet. I do get protein though, from tofu, and other things I eat. Even brown rice has protein in it.

    Thanks,

    doug
  • zaph0d
    zaph0d Posts: 1,172 Member
    Grown men who eat less that little freak me the hell out.
  • douglerner
    douglerner Posts: 237 Member
    I don't eat THAT little. :)

    About 1300 calories of food a day isn't exactly starving. I eat quite a lot actually. I'm always snacking on something, like pumpkin slices or fruits.

    doug
  • Hey,

    I had to cut weight last week to get to 12st 12lbs I was taking in about 1300 Calories of my recommended 1800, after making weight and eating and drinking alchol from late Saturday to all day Sunday I weighed on Monday and was back up to 13st 12lbs thats 14lbs in 1 and a half days.

    Basiclly sounds like your taking in too little calories and the weight your losing is water weight, this will come back onas soon as you eat/drink a little more than you have been, dont be depressed its just your bodys way of saying feed me :)
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    Don't be depressed, you've lost 27 kg! Weight loss is not linear, and even if you're doing everything "right", it's very common to have weeks where you gain. Remember that the number on the scale isn't just a representation of how much fat you have, but all your lean mass too - organs, bones, muscle, fluids, the food/waste in your digestive system. Some of those, fluids and food/waste in particular, will fluctuate.

    I personally don't think you're eating anywhere near enough. I'm not a scientist, but to be honest, the constant debate over whether starvation mode exists, or at what level it kicks in, is kind of a red herring. Forget starvation mode. Having too large of a calorie deficit is not a great idea. You risk losing more muscle mass than you should be. It's inevitable that you will lose some muscle as you lose weight (that's why body builders have to do bulk & cut cycles) but you're probably losing a lot more than is desirable. That will cause your metabolic rate to drop more than it should. It will also mean that you have to get to a lower weight to achieve the size you want. Eating at such a low level over a long period of time means you also risk messing up hormone function. Your body is only going to let go of so much fat at once. If its not getting enough calories to perform basic functions, it will start slowing processes down.

    It might be worth looking into diet breaks as much for psychological reasons as physiological ones. Saying "It would be like telling an alcoholic who has been sober for 6 months, "It's ok to have just one drink."" and " I never make any exceptions - not for birthdays, not for weddings, not for holidays, not for trips. Never." - that doesn't sound very healthy to me. Eating the normal level of calories that your body needs to function healthily is not remotely like making an alcoholic have a drink. The fact that you equate the two is very worrying to me.
    I eat quite a lot actually
    ^Said by every person on MFP trying to justify long-term under-eating. Along with "I'm full of energy" and "I feel so stuffed". Which all completely ignores the fact that very often, when the body isn't getting enough to eat, it stops sending the brain hunger signals. Why don't you try upping your calories and eating at least what MFP suggests to you (bearing in mind MFP suggests that amount based on the assumption you will eat back exercise calories as well). Try it for a few weeks, don't freak out if you gain a pound or two (which won't be fat) and just see how you get on. What have you got to lose?
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    so take a pee.
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    Doug, if Dans link is a bit daunting to you feel free to friend me and I'll help you go through it. You'll have to give me your measurements etc though but I'll take you through the questions. I was a bit scared of the link too first time I saw it but it's not hard at all really. Trust me it will work, you will lose, just in a healthier way than you are now and yes you can eat vegan or however you like but we'll worry about macros later. Calories are more important at first.
  • With calories that low you probably are way below your BMR. Never good for long.

    A significant deficit below your TDEE and still below your BMR is unhealthy. But I would not fret over 1kg. But I would start re-evaluating your big picture with regards to your nutrition.
  • douglerner
    douglerner Posts: 237 Member
    Hi, people. Thanks for your posts. Just a few responses!

    Kleran: I am absolutely positive that I have not lost 58 lb in water weight. :)

    Jester: I may be eating too little. I'm not sure. You might be right about that. But we will have to agree to disagree about breaks. I am POSITIVE it will throw me completely off the wagon. Healthy eating is healthy eating. What would I do for a break? Have KFC? It just sounds like a bad idea. When I think of when I overeat and talk to people who can't quit smoking, or can't stop drinking, it really does sound a lot like the same feelings to me.

    Mockchock: Thanks. My stats are currently 174 cm, 101.4 kg (for some reason my weight dropped a kg since yesterday), age 56, and mostly sedentary, though I try to do a bike ride by the river every day. I want to get down to at least 75 kg.

    Thanks, people!

    doug
  • zaph0d
    zaph0d Posts: 1,172 Member
    You're so certain of yourself, why did you even start this thread?
  • sandradev1
    sandradev1 Posts: 786 Member
    Hi Doug,

    I totally agree with YOU on the diet break. Its obvious that you take this seriously and are committed to it. This is not a DIET this is HEALTHY EATING folks. Taking a break....to eat junk food.....how can that be good for you.

    I am glad to hear that the scales have fallen again for you. I also put on 1 lb today. I think I feel the same as you. Yes I am disappointed because I wanted to see the scales continually fall each time, but at the same time I am intelligent enough to know that its probably to do with my body (ie water retention) it cannot possibly be real weight gain as I am still eating below my TDEE.

    You have had much success, well done. Just keep doing what you've been doing and I am sure your weight will fall again. As you rightly say, you could try eating a little more and it will not do any damage and still keep you under your top figures. From the figures I can see why most people are saying you should eat more and I would probably agree with them. That said, I suppose we also have to all remember that everybody is different. I have just been reading a post from someone who has lost 40 lb in ten week, which to most of us is impossible. Calculators and the figures they produced are really helpful as a guide, but we have to also tweak them to suit us individually.
  • zaph0d
    zaph0d Posts: 1,172 Member
    Taking a break....to eat junk food.....how can that be good for you.

    Who said anything about eating junk food? Taking a break means taking a break from calorie deficit, and eating at maintenance calories with your regular food. Gives your leptin and ghrelin and chance to reset/
  • douglerner
    douglerner Posts: 237 Member
    Thanks for the additional responses, people.

    I might eat a bit more - to get up to the 1800 calorie range my doctor recommended. I have to admit I'm pretty anxious and excited about getting under 100 kg, into two digits, again, for the first time in years. But after that, I really don't care how long it takes me to get to a normal BMI range. I'm already fitting comfortably into things like restaurant booths, small cars, I can tie my shoelaces again without steps, I am sitting here with my legs crossed comfortably - something I couldn't do at 129 kg! I even have a lap for laptop again!

    However, I don't see any need to eat at a level that would maintain my current weight. That would be what? Like 2,200 to 2,600 calories per day! I just haven't heard any reasons why that makes sense. And my doctor recommends sticking withing 1,800 calories a day.

    Thanks,

    doug
  • calamity71
    calamity71 Posts: 207 Member
    I didn't start seeing a weight loss until I actually ate my exercise calories back, or at least most of them. this amazed me since I had been used to eating minimal calories since I have been a weight watcher member on and off for so many years. I see you have been losing steady, so congrats. For women, I'd say PMS :laugh:

    ok...sodium can make anyone retain water, so you could very well just be retaining. also, it could just be your scale or what you weigh in if you don't weigh in the buff. I wouldn't sweat it to much and just keep on keeping on!