Am I missing something here?

sassydot
sassydot Posts: 141
edited September 20 in Health and Weight Loss
I see soooo many people saying they're struggling to reach just 1200 cal a day... That they don't know how to eat that much.

i'm confused... Aren't the majority of us here because at some point we were eating WELL over 1200 cal / day? How can it suddenly be impossible?

is this just all talk or is there something I'm missing here? I mean, just my normal LUNCH (2 sandwiches + banana approx 750cal) is what some people are eating all day and saying they can't possibly fit any more in, and I feel it's a good balanced and nutritious lunch, it certainly leaves me full, but it wouldn't leave me full all DAY iykwim.

So, what's up with 'over'eaters suddenly not being able to eat enough?
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  • raleigh
    raleigh Posts: 87 Member
    great question, i am curious too!
  • heather62803
    heather62803 Posts: 266 Member
    I agree - I'm allowed 1600 calories a day - I eat the recommended three balanced meals and two snacks and I sometimes am struggling to keep the 1600 calorie limit. You have to eat balanced meals people!!!! If you are getting in your recommended vegetables, fruit, protein, carbs etc.... there is no way you should be under 1200 calories! To those people I recommend you take a good look at what you are eating and try to balance out your meals because something is not right!
  • Mommabee
    Mommabee Posts: 103
    I think it's because it's hard to eat "good" and get that many calories. If you are not eating bread (like I am), a sandwich is out, so the calorie count goes way down without it. We eat alot, but not calorie dense food, so it's hard to be able to eat enough to reach our calorie goal because we are full.
    At least that's the way it is with me.
  • courtney_love2001
    courtney_love2001 Posts: 1,468 Member
    Here was my deal: I was scared. I was scared to eat what I used to, so I overcompensated. I ate low calorie all the time, and small quantities. I would eat boring food because I thought that's what being on a "diet" was all about. It didn't take me long to realize the err of my ways, and now I can barely stay at my 1400 per day. I think it just takes being used to the lifestyle for awhile and experimenting to see what foods are "okay" for you.

    I get frustrated seeing the same posts over and over about this, but I realize that I was there once too, and I needed some gentle guidance, which I received. They will get it eventually, and then they will be begging for calories like I do! :laugh:
  • Buzzkitty1
    Buzzkitty1 Posts: 134
    I don't get it either! I think maybe they're trying to convince themselves they are satisfied on so little. I think the backlash binging/overeating that results from consistent caloric deprivation is perhaps what keeps many people from losing.
    I always have to pipe in that eating has never been a problem for me, and that I have absolutely no problem eating my daily target calories and my exercise calories, too.
  • DrBorkBork
    DrBorkBork Posts: 4,099 Member
    I'm curious, too. I tend to lose my appetite in the summer due to the heat & for whatever reason right now I'm going through a weird "food is gross, I don't want anything" phase, but I still get my calories in!
  • crux
    crux Posts: 454 Member
    As with all walks of life, mental attitude towards what your doing counts for a heck of a lot, I can fully understand why some people can get deeply into a process like this and honestly believe that they can't manage to eat their calories.

    Me, I could eat 1200 in a single sitting and still feel hungry 3 hours later, but we are not all the same. :tongue:
  • I'm one of "those people" who struggle to eat all my calories a day and I know to some it's hard to explain so I'll do the best that I can. If I wouldn't exercise I wouldn't have a problem almost eating all the calories, but my calories burned during my workouts puts me in extreme deficits. Yes I was (and still at times still am) an overeater. I think this website allows me to see exactly how many calories I am consuming from things and makes me go WOW, it's not worth it! So now i have become more aware and more resistant to eating those foods that used to rack up the calories (ex. chips, dip, starbucks, pizza). I'm also very petite (only 5'1) so maybe my body needs less than what someone else's body would need who is taller? I'm not sure I have a great answer for you, I just wanted to let you know my perspective on it. To make a long story short, my goal is not to lose weight but to be healthy. That is eating healthy, exercising, etc. Yes, I could make my calories by eating chips, or pizza or whatever but that would go against my goal to "healthy". I'm just trying to do the best that I can without compromising my goals.

    A typical lunch for you is different than a typical lunch for me. Today I had:

    A spinach salad (2 cups of spinach) with grilled chicken, mandarin oranges, carrots, and fat free salad dressing. Also, I had half a yam that didn't not have any salt, butter, or sugar on it. I couldn't even finish my lunch because I was too full, but yet, it was less than 250 calories.
  • TalonaCat
    TalonaCat Posts: 241
    For me, it's completely relearning how to eat. No way that ramen, instant mac, and ice cream are good for what I'm dedicating myself to do here. So... if I'm having to learn how to fill myself with healthy calories, I don't get how that's NOT a difficult thing to do.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    I also shake my head about this, but I can also see how it can be difficult at first. Healthy foods are less calorie-dense, so they are going to fill our stomachs on fewer calories. I don't shy away from the healthy fats, though, so that makes it easier for me to reach my calorie allowance.

    If I were making that spinach salad mentioned above, I would make a dressing out of 1 tsp olive oil, 2 tsp lemon juice and a pinch of salt and pepper. I'd also toss in a small handful of cashews and voila! More calories without a lot of bulk PLUS a good dose of some healthy fat.
  • arfletcher
    arfletcher Posts: 143
    I am in the same boat as TalonaCat. I have changed the types of foods that I am allowing myself to eat quit drastically - no wheat, no sugars, no processed, very little pre-packaged/pre-made foods. So I am having to try to get in calories that dont consist of things like bread, sandwhich meats, "diet" foods... Its harder to eat 12-1400 calories in a day when you are trying to fill up on steamed veggies and grilled meats! :happy: :laugh:
  • nicolina823
    nicolina823 Posts: 450 Member
    I eat 5-6 times a day. Almost all of my meals are between 200-300 cals. Most are under 100.
    Veggies: I eat 1 cup of veggies with almost every meal. I make a lot of "mock parms" like eggplant, sauce, and cheese. This comes to less than 100 cal single serve. Desert is in 2 cycles veggie first then a bit of fruit.

    Soups: I make lots of soups the same thing most are between 75-100 cals.

    Protein: For protein I eat a lot of chicken, tofu and I love cheese.

    Carbs: My carbs come from the veggies and proteins or a Josephs tortilla. (Mock pizza, a pbj pizza or baked for a salsa dip)

    I do not use olive oil or butter. I also do not add any salt.

    So lots of days I meet or go over but not by much on fiber and protein, but am under on calories, fat and carbs.
  • questionablemethods
    questionablemethods Posts: 2,174 Member
    I am in the same boat as TalonaCat. I have changed the types of foods that I am allowing myself to eat quit drastically - no wheat, no sugars, no processed, very little pre-packaged/pre-made foods. So I am having to try to get in calories that dont consist of things like bread, sandwhich meats, "diet" foods... Its harder to eat 12-1400 calories in a day when you are trying to fill up on steamed veggies and grilled meats! :happy: :laugh:

    I strive to do the same. Olive oil, sesame oil, nuts, seeds are delicious, nutritious, "clean" and calorie dense.
  • LittleSpy
    LittleSpy Posts: 6,754 Member
    I think it's because so many people misconceive what "healthy" food is. Just because something has fat or calories doesn't make it unhealthy! Peanut butter (natural) is a very healthy food! Is it low in calories? No way.

    A dieter's natural inclination is to choose the lowest fat, lowest calorie food available. By doing so, it can be difficult to get to 1200 calories a day. But, by adding in HEALTHY higher calorie foods like nuts and dairy, it's easy to increase your calorie intake. Sometimes it takes a while for people to "get it." :wink: I know it took a while for me to grasp the concept that "low fat" and "low cal" options aren't always the healthiest. Now I try to choose nutrition dense foods which are often not low calorie at all yet they're still a healthier choice than many foods that are lower in calories.
  • AJCM
    AJCM Posts: 2,169 Member
    I'm with the previous ladies - clean, natural, delicious foods, and many are "treats" that are also good for your body (and calorie dense) - olive oil, nuts, nut butters, hummus, mmmm.....

    Days when I workout, and I eat 1800 calories, I still have a gnawing in my tummy at night, and while I fight the urge to snack, I could EASILY eat more than my 1800 calories, and never ever through out the day, do I feel the slighest bit "full". Always just satisfied.

    Good luck to all
    :flowerforyou:
  • hasiangirl
    hasiangirl Posts: 1,613
    I have trouble reaching 1100 (my goal is 1000-1100) and thats with 2 snacks and 3 meals...its because if u eat the actual portion serving of healthy foods theyre way lower in cals than pigging out on fried foods and pizza along with chips soda etc....but if u eat a serving of chicken with a serving of veggies and lets say brown rice for example... thats only about 300 cals ....and for lunch i go light and eat a serving of lean meat which is approx 110 in cals and a veggie so thats only 150ish in cals...and breakfast is oatmeal which is only 150cals so for meals thats only 600....where as before id eat 3 meals from mcdonalds in one sitting lol
  • durbanski
    durbanski Posts: 183 Member
    For me, it's completely relearning how to eat. No way that ramen, instant mac, and ice cream are good for what I'm dedicating myself to do here. So... if I'm having to learn how to fill myself with healthy calories, I don't get how that's NOT a difficult thing to do.

    Its extremely difficult to do. Nutritional label reading should be an Olympic sport if you take a closer look. There are so many ways food makers try and pull one over on consumers by up-playing good things but burying the bad.

    I have to drive home between a mcdonalds and a burger king 100 ft across from one another. 100 calories of sugar is still 100 calories of sugar. I got big not because i gorged myself everyday but rather because i ate because it was there regardless of the nutritional content.
  • mromnek
    mromnek Posts: 325
    This thread is very interesting. I would like to hear more from people like amillward27, who have a hard time.

    My wife stopped logging her food, because she found herself severely overcompensating and not eating enough during the day. For some reason she couldn't make the disconnect between logging her food and "dieting."

    I agree that when you cut out the "bad for you foods," like chips, pizza, ice cream, etc... it is easy to reduce caloric intake. By the same token, that doesn't mean you can't eat "high calorie" foods and still eat healthy. Long grain rice (like basmati), sweet potatoes, baked potatoes, and whole wheat breads are all examples of where you can get your calories but still eat healthy.
  • AJCM
    AJCM Posts: 2,169 Member
    Oh - I also forgot the issue of stoking the metabolism.

    On a most basic level, two main things raise our metabolism - eating and exercising. By doing both, through out the day, your metabolism gets a boost. I really like the example that the same person can go into "starvation mode" eating 1000 calories daily without exericse, and lose no weight, OR they could lose a solid 1-2 lbs per week by eating 1600+ calories daily, and exercising.
    :smile:
  • lina1131
    lina1131 Posts: 2,246 Member
    I can eat the hell out of 1200 calories and more :bigsmile:
  • TalonaCat
    TalonaCat Posts: 241
    I'm probably about to open a can of worms, but I'm sincerely not trying to here.

    I feel like little thought was put in to some of the comments in this thread. There are people on this website, myself for example, who have crap for a self esteem to begin with. Because I struggle with trying to reach my caloric intake each day (when still eating things like healthy pasta, several servings of fruits and vegetables, dairy and other things) I should be inadverdently grouped into 'those people'? I do understand that you're probably frustrated with hearing about it.

    But if you're seeing it often, than that must mean mean that there's a very real situation that people are having issues coping with and obviously asking for help on.

    I probably shouldn't have taken this so personally, but I did. I just think that sometimes people should consider what is being said, especially in a place like this, before it's said. Call it a case of miscommunication, if you will. And I know that text is OFTEN a miserable way to communicate, but be aware that some people have taken some of the things said here out of context. Myself included.

    I apologize for any annoyance that this, or anything I've said prior to this, has caused to ANYONE.

    Edited for super heinous typos.
  • mromnek
    mromnek Posts: 325
    @haisiangirl and durbanski: Congrats on the life change to exclude Mickey D's and BK. I used to eat BK about 13 times a week or more, but haven't had any since December. I know what a big deal it is to give them up.
  • Good Question. I’d have no problem eating pizza all day to fill up my 1,200 calorie diet. But I’m trying to eat healthy. Eating more veggies and low calorie foods, I’m feeling quite full without even reaching my calorie goal. See, before MFP I went all out on things like icecream, pizza, french fries, Sonny’s (you get it).
  • drvvork
    drvvork Posts: 1,162
    :bigsmile: Okay... for those who think we are fooling ourselves or not understanding possibly I will be able to enlighten you to 'my' situation. I've been dealing with excessive weight for literally years. My doctors would say - "Eat less and exercise" but they didn't tell me how much or little. So for years I ate 'very' lite... prior to starting here my day entailed about 600 calories a day and I was at a point where I was starting to gain again - I stumbled upon MFP. Since then, I've had to re-program myself of years of "eating less" to actually eating more than I was accustomed. I have been here since January and am now starting to get a handle on this. I cannot speak for others - this is my situation. You can say it is all in my head (as my siblings do - yet the changes they have witnessed are in front of them). I track my intake honestly and with commitment. I do have health issues where there are some foods that I would love to eat but shouldn't or can't and would love to have more variety but preparing a meal for me alone is not that interesting to me. But I feel I am doing well with this situation of staying up to my caloric recommendation but for some time it was difficult. Remember - it is all about perception and habit. Lifestyle change in the works. :flowerforyou:
  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
    I've found that, like LittleSpy, once I got rid of the notion that everything had to be low fat or fat free and low cal, my calories went up and so did my feelings of being satisfied.

    Another BIG help was to eliminate all artificial flavoring, preservatives, coloring, sweeteners, MSG and HFCS. That pretty much cuts out all processed foods. I closely monitor my sugar intake as well, which eliminates a chunk of naturally sweetened items.

    The list of foods I CAN eat is long and fascinating...Chicken, lean beef, shrimp, fish, eggs, milk, cheese, any kind of fruit, any kind of veggie, pitas, tortillas, almonds, soups, some breads, occasional pasta, olives, some cereals, turkey bacon, uncured ham, cocoa, coconut, etc...I could go on and on :tongue:
  • TalonaCat
    TalonaCat Posts: 241
    We will get there. Just takes some time and know-how, I suppose.
  • kwardklinck
    kwardklinck Posts: 1,601
    I see soooo many people saying they're struggling to reach just 1200 cal a day... That they don't know how to eat that much.

    i'm confused... Aren't the majority of us here because at some point we were eating WELL over 1200 cal / day? How can it suddenly be impossible?

    is this just all talk or is there something I'm missing here? I mean, just my normal LUNCH (2 sandwiches + banana approx 750cal) is what some people are eating all day and saying they can't possibly fit any more in, and I feel it's a good balanced and nutritious lunch, it certainly leaves me full, but it wouldn't leave me full all DAY iykwim.

    So, what's up with 'over'eaters suddenly not being able to eat enough?

    LOL I've been thinking the same thing. I eat 900 calories before dinner :) I'm not starving but I'm not struggling to eat them either.
  • valleyp
    valleyp Posts: 49
    I think metabolic systems have alot to do with it, too. I am a fast oxidizer (my system processes my food quickly) and I can fill up on veggies but I am not satisfied and can't stay full on them for very long. I am soon looking for something more to eat. I really need heavier types of food at meals, which means that my calories are "eaten up" pretty quickly. My husband (a slow oxidizer), on the other hand, can go all day without eating until dinner time and still not overeat. I simply cannot be satisfied on 1200 calories a day for more than a day or two and so I will do workouts that burn the most calories possible so I can eat more. I can't identify with the folks who are filled up quickly and stay full on small amounts of food. I'm relatively petite ( about 5'1") and have only about 15 lbs. of leftover baby weight to lose but I really struggle to stay within my calorie allowance.
  • SraArroz
    SraArroz Posts: 238
    It's strange, I've been overweight my entire life! I have done basically every diet known to man. BUT I haven't counted calories in about 20 years, LOL. I've always been most successful on the high protein/low carb diets and when I was just making sure that what I chose was healthy and acceptable for those requirements I did fine, but once I lost it was hard to maintain and I yo-yo'd back up. So, counting calories is quite hard for me right now. Thank goodness for MFP and it's wonderful database of items.

    I've been on MFP for a week now, and it has been very eye-opening. I actually look at calories now. BUT I also pay attention to where my calories come from. I would love to eat my 1200 calories a day by eating 12 of the 100 calorie packs of oreos or something like that, but it's not good for me and wouldn't be satisfying. Most of my calories come from things that are high in protein and low in carbs (cheese, nuts, cottage cheese, eggs, lean meat, etc)... So my meals add up quickly. So, I find I need to workout so I can add on some more calories.
  • kwardklinck
    kwardklinck Posts: 1,601
    It's strange, I've been overweight my entire life! I have done basically every diet known to man. BUT I haven't counted calories in about 20 years, LOL. I've always been most successful on the high protein/low carb diets and when I was just making sure that what I chose was healthy and acceptable for those requirements I did fine, but once I lost it was hard to maintain and I yo-yo'd back up. So, counting calories is quite hard for me right now. Thank goodness for MFP and it's wonderful database of items.

    I've been on MFP for a week now, and it has been very eye-opening. I actually look at calories now. BUT I also pay attention to where my calories come from. I would love to eat my 1200 calories a day by eating 12 of the 100 calorie packs of oreos or something like that, but it's not good for me and wouldn't be satisfying. Most of my calories come from things that are high in protein and low in carbs (cheese, nuts, cottage cheese, eggs, lean meat, etc)... So my meals add up quickly. So, I find I need to workout so I can add on some more calories.

    A couple of weeks ago I caught myself exercising extra so I could add an apple to my food diary. I realized I didn't get my proper fruit for the day. To me that's success!
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