Any vegetarians who added fish back in?
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PS - maybe get some bloodwork & and an exam done? Thinning hair and anemia are not always caused by diet. I'm just throwing that out there, but it sounds like a possibility that you have had something checked since you know your anemic.
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I was a vegetarian for 3 years and a very strict vegan for almost a year of that (don't ask, it was a phase. Probably to get my parents mad)
Anyway... one Christmas there was a big ham and I probably ate a pound of it over the course of the day. It was amazing and I felt great after. Next days to come I had steaks, cheese, bacon, anything that moved I probably ate it.
I didn't get sick or even get an upset stomach surprisingly. I didn't eat anything processed right away either so it was still tons of fruits and veggies but I just added meat back in. I honestly think the vegetarians claiming to feel sick have it all in their head.0 -
Just to add I also didn't feel well being a vegetarian after a while. I was tired often and soccer practices were very hard for me. I was dizzy often too. I didn't want to make up all my protein with seitan, fake meats and soy. So I was probably not eating enough since its hard to graze on veg all day.0
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I've been vegan for five years and plan to continue to be vegan, but really it's whatever you're comfortable with. Also, I rarely if ever eat fake meats. It's not that hard to be a whole foods vegan, or close to it depending on how much you like unhealthy snacks.
That said, try this link for vegetarian protein ideas that are neither eggs nor cheese http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm
Also i highly recommend these Omega 3/DHA/EPA supplements http://www.amazon.com/Amerifit-Nutrition-Ovega-3-softgels-Health/dp/B004LL7AXE/ref=sr_1_fed1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1356910652&sr=8-2&keywords=vegan+omega+3+dha+epa0 -
I ate vegetarian for almost 3 years. One time during that 3 year period I had Rice Pilaf that it turned out was cooked with/in chicken stock and not water. It made me sick.
One night when very drunk there was boiled shrimp on the table and I ate it. Didn't get sick...
I thought at that point, hey, I miss Sushi and fish is healthy, maybe I'll be a pescetarian...
About a month later I decided that Chicken breast is healthy and I should eat it, but all other meat is still out as it's not healthy.
About a month after that my Girlfriend (now wife) and I went out to the outback. My plan was to order fish. I had one whiff of someone's steak and I ordered a prime rib. It was all over after that....
The only time going off vegetarian eating made me sick was the rice pilaf made with chicken stock.
Ok, that all being said, there is a LOT of fish you won't have to even think about mercury. If you want to eat fish again, I suggest researching what is/isn't mercury laden.0 -
Well that's great. Except that farmed salmon generally have less mercury than wild caught.The reason why it's not recommended to eat fish is because of the high mercury levels thanks to pollution. But if you still decide to eat fish I would suggest Alaskan Sockeye Salmon. Salmon has lot's of protein and a very high level of Omega 3 fatty acids. It also happens to be less contaminated than most other fish. Just make sure it's wild caught.
http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20080605/mercury-low-in-wild-and-farmed-salmon
You have to be kidding me. Farmed fish is one of the worst foods you can add to your diet. Might not have mercury but what about all the growth hormones they are given and antibiotics and God knows what else? I don't know about you but I sure in the hell don't trust anything farmed. Genetically engineered fish is about to hit the market by the way.0 -
Ok well I didn't come in here telling people not to eat fish or egs. Everyone can do whatever they want with their body. Matter of fact I told her what the least unhealthy fish and eggs options are. Anyways if you(Victoria) would like to learn more about the vegan health benefits I recommend you watch a documentary on netflix called "FORKS OVER KNIVES" I think you can also watch it for free on their website. It's very interesting and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Documentaries should not be taken as truth as they are often biased opinion pieces.
Also, I would like to point out that much of the information you've provided is outdated at best and scaremongering at worst. If you would like to continue posting such things, could you please provide peer reviewed scientific evidence on behalf of your stand points?
So you expect me to go and dig through my books and check medical journals along with proven facts from different universities for you to believe me? Lol no I don't think so mam.0 -
Ok well I didn't come in here telling people not to eat fish or egs. Everyone can do whatever they want with their body. Matter of fact I told her what the least unhealthy fish and eggs options are. Anyways if you(Victoria) would like to learn more about the vegan health benefits I recommend you watch a documentary on netflix called "FORKS OVER KNIVES" I think you can also watch it for free on their website. It's very interesting and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Documentaries should not be taken as truth as they are often biased opinion pieces.
Also, I would like to point out that much of the information you've provided is outdated at best and scaremongering at worst. If you would like to continue posting such things, could you please provide peer reviewed scientific evidence on behalf of your stand points?
So you expect me to go and dig through my books and check medical journals along with proven facts from different universities for you to believe me? Lol no I don't think so mam.
Not at all surprised because frankly pretty much everything you've said in this thread is incorrect, outdated or ill informed. Feel free to use what works for you but don't confuse other people with it.0 -
Ok well I'm done typing to an ignorant closed minded brainwashed wall. I made my point and voiced my opinion. If anyone is interested in learning more on health benefits of plant based diets or anything that has to do with health and nutrition feel free to add ne. To the carnivores.. good luck and I hope you all reach your goals with your steaks and eggs. I'm out.
Ah yes. The all or nothing, ad hominem attack. Well done sir. It makes it so much easier to just ignore you. No one was attacking vegetarianism or pescatarianism. Both can be done in a very healthy manner but are not for everyone. The attacks were on the poor quality of your information.0 -
There's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. HDL and LDL.The body naturally produces cholesterol on its own and there's no need to supplement it with cholesterol.
*sigh* misunderstanding and misinformation.0 -
Ok well I didn't come in here telling people not to eat fish or egs. Everyone can do whatever they want with their body. Matter of fact I told her what the least unhealthy fish and eggs options are. Anyways if you(Victoria) would like to learn more about the vegan health benefits I recommend you watch a documentary on netflix called "FORKS OVER KNIVES" I think you can also watch it for free on their website. It's very interesting and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Documentaries should not be taken as truth as they are often biased opinion pieces.
Also, I would like to point out that much of the information you've provided is outdated at best and scaremongering at worst. If you would like to continue posting such things, could you please provide peer reviewed scientific evidence on behalf of your stand points?
So you expect me to go and dig through my books and check medical journals along with proven facts from different universities for you to believe me? Lol no I don't think so mam.
This guy is new to MFP and I'm seeing him all of a sudden all over the boards picking fights and pushing veganism like it's the *only* way with some floppy arguments and an obsession with documentaries. Sounds a bit self righteous in all of his posts...he's one of the folks who gives veggies a bad name with his attitude.
Just my opinion. He managed to flip the thread around from helping the OP to debating and then stomping away upset...
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Ok well I didn't come in here telling people not to eat fish or egs. Everyone can do whatever they want with their body. Matter of fact I told her what the least unhealthy fish and eggs options are. Anyways if you(Victoria) would like to learn more about the vegan health benefits I recommend you watch a documentary on netflix called "FORKS OVER KNIVES" I think you can also watch it for free on their website. It's very interesting and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Documentaries should not be taken as truth as they are often biased opinion pieces.
Also, I would like to point out that much of the information you've provided is outdated at best and scaremongering at worst. If you would like to continue posting such things, could you please provide peer reviewed scientific evidence on behalf of your stand points?
So you expect me to go and dig through my books and check medical journals along with proven facts from different universities for you to believe me? Lol no I don't think so mam.
This guy is new to MFP and I'm seeing him all of a sudden all over the boards picking fights and pushing veganism like it's the *only* way with some floppy arguments and an obsession with documentaries. Sounds a bit self righteous in all of his posts...he's one of the folks who gives veggies a bad name with his attitude.
Just my opinion. He managed to flip the thread around from helping the OP to debating and then stomping away upset...
Yes I'm new here and I'm obsessed with books and documentaries. No I'm not mad at anyobe I just don't have much time to continue debating or respond to everyone that disagrees with me. Most of the time it's people that I wasn't even talking to they just get offended because my views and my knowledge differ from theirs and the status quo.0 -
Ok well I didn't come in here telling people not to eat fish or egs. Everyone can do whatever they want with their body. Matter of fact I told her what the least unhealthy fish and eggs options are. Anyways if you(Victoria) would like to learn more about the vegan health benefits I recommend you watch a documentary on netflix called "FORKS OVER KNIVES" I think you can also watch it for free on their website. It's very interesting and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Documentaries should not be taken as truth as they are often biased opinion pieces.
Also, I would like to point out that much of the information you've provided is outdated at best and scaremongering at worst. If you would like to continue posting such things, could you please provide peer reviewed scientific evidence on behalf of your stand points?
So you expect me to go and dig through my books and check medical journals along with proven facts from different universities for you to believe me? Lol no I don't think so mam.
This guy is new to MFP and I'm seeing him all of a sudden all over the boards picking fights and pushing veganism like it's the *only* way with some floppy arguments and an obsession with documentaries. Sounds a bit self righteous in all of his posts...he's one of the folks who gives veggies a bad name with his attitude.
Just my opinion. He managed to flip the thread around from helping the OP to debating and then stomping away upset...
Yes I'm new here and I'm obsessed with books and documentaries. No I'm not mad at anyobe I just don't have much time to continue debating or respond to everyone that disagrees with me. Most of the time it's people that I wasn't even talking to in the first place that just get offended because my views and my knowledge differ from theirs and the status quo.0 -
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Ok well I didn't come in here telling people not to eat fish or egs. Everyone can do whatever they want with their body. Matter of fact I told her what the least unhealthy fish and eggs options are. Anyways if you(Victoria) would like to learn more about the vegan health benefits I recommend you watch a documentary on netflix called "FORKS OVER KNIVES" I think you can also watch it for free on their website. It's very interesting and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Documentaries should not be taken as truth as they are often biased opinion pieces.
Also, I would like to point out that much of the information you've provided is outdated at best and scaremongering at worst. If you would like to continue posting such things, could you please provide peer reviewed scientific evidence on behalf of your stand points?
So you expect me to go and dig through my books and check medical journals along with proven facts from different universities for you to believe me? Lol no I don't think so mam.
This guy is new to MFP and I'm seeing him all of a sudden all over the boards picking fights and pushing veganism like it's the *only* way with some floppy arguments and an obsession with documentaries. Sounds a bit self righteous in all of his posts...he's one of the folks who gives veggies a bad name with his attitude.
Just my opinion. He managed to flip the thread around from helping the OP to debating and then stomping away upset...
Yes I'm new here and I'm obsessed with books and documentaries. No I'm not mad at anyobe I just don't have much time to continue debating or respond to everyone that disagrees with me. Most of the time it's people that I wasn't even talking to in the first place that just get offended because my views and my knowledge differ from theirs and the status quo.
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But you do continue to debate and respond to everything lol0 -
But you do continue to debate and respond to everything lol
...and in just about every single thread I've visited. It's just his thing I suppose....it's the same thing every time. I mean this in the friendliest way abraham, you said you're looking for healthy debates, but to have a healthy debate, you can't go around picking fights, demeaning other peoples' dietary choices, or arguing like a child. Healthy debates between consenting adults are not what I see you promoting in all of your posts. This is supposed to be a friendly environment, full or *suggestions* not orders. We're not doctors. If you know it all, why are you here? What works for you, will not work for everyone else. Remember this, and play nice.0 -
Did you forget what this thread is about? Its about a vegetarian wanting to try eating fish. In that case the vegetarian would no longer be a vegetarian she would be a pescatarian. If you guys are so badly against the vegetarian lifestyle then why do you bother to even read and try to argue on topics like these? I haven't seen a single vegan or vegetarian topic without people hating the idea and voicing their negativity. You won't see me going into an omnivorous topic trying to push an agenda on anyone. Everyone has the right to eat what they want and do whatever they want with their bodies. If it's a crime to tell the OP that fish contains mercury then so be it.0
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For the record: I'm a Vegetarian. Just sayin'.0
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Did you forget what this thread is about? Its about a vegetarian wanting to try eating fish. In that case the vegetarian would no longer be a vegetarian she would be a pescatarian. If you guys are so badly against the vegetarian lifestyle then why do you bother to even read and try to argue on topics like these? I haven't seen a single vegan or vegetarian topic without people hating the idea and voicing their negativity. You won't see me going into an omnivorous topic trying to push an agenda on anyone. Everyone has the right to eat what they want and do whatever they want with their bodies. If it's a crime to tell the OP that fish contains mercury then so be it.
A lot of things contain mercury, not just fish. You should educate us on all things mercury, just in case.0 -
I've eaten fish for most of my life..heavily. I've never had any issues with mercury poisoning. there are cultures whose diet consists heavily on fish.
You'll be okay.0 -
Did you forget what this thread is about? Its about a vegetarian wanting to try eating fish. In that case the vegetarian would no longer be a vegetarian she would be a pescatarian. If you guys are so badly against the vegetarian lifestyle then why do you bother to even read and try to argue on topics like these? I haven't seen a single vegan or vegetarian topic without people hating the idea and voicing their negativity. You won't see me going into an omnivorous topic trying to push an agenda on anyone. Everyone has the right to eat what they want and do whatever they want with their bodies. If it's a crime to tell the OP that fish contains mercury then so be it.
Everything or too much of anything can be bad for you. Just saying. Too much cabbage can be bad for you. It's about moderation and paying attention to what you eat.
And also, i think you need to chill a bit. No body is downing on the vegetarian lifestyle.0 -
Did you forget what this thread is about? Its about a vegetarian wanting to try eating fish. In that case the vegetarian would no longer be a vegetarian she would be a pescatarian. If you guys are so badly against the vegetarian lifestyle then why do you bother to even read and try to argue on topics like these? I haven't seen a single vegan or vegetarian topic without people hating the idea and voicing their negativity. You won't see me going into an omnivorous topic trying to push an agenda on anyone. Everyone has the right to eat what they want and do whatever they want with their bodies. If it's a crime to tell the OP that fish contains mercury then so be it.
A lot of things contain mercury, not just fish. You should educate us on all things mercury, just in case.
You're off topic. OP's question isn't about thermometers or blood pressure measuring devices or a lot of other things. It's about fish.0 -
Hello all, I have been a vegetarian for six years and LOVE it. It has pretty much removed fast food from my diet, with the exception of the occasional taco bell run lol.
I never want to eat a burger again, or bacon, or hot dogs or steak. I am content with substitutes and absolutely prefer some to the real thing, such as eggplant parmesan over chicken and grilled portabella mushrooms over steak.
However, my hair has thinned and I am often anemic. I fall short of my protein goal more than I would like. Since seafood grosses me out the least, I am thinking about adding it back in. My questions for those who have done this/know someone who did are:
1. Did you have any sickness from it/how slowly do you think I should go?
2. Were there enough benefits to be worth it? Any change at all?
3. Which sea critters are the most beneficial? I know I really liked scallops and salmon way back when but I hear salmon is a high-fat fish?
4. Anything else you think would help, thanks!
You need to really keep track of your protein. People that go into the vegetarian lifestyle without realizing that they need to find alternate sources of protein and certain amino acids start to show side effects of this - one being the thinning/falling out of hair.0 -
Did you forget what this thread is about? Its about a vegetarian wanting to try eating fish. In that case the vegetarian would no longer be a vegetarian she would be a pescatarian. If you guys are so badly against the vegetarian lifestyle then why do you bother to even read and try to argue on topics like these? I haven't seen a single vegan or vegetarian topic without people hating the idea and voicing their negativity. You won't see me going into an omnivorous topic trying to push an agenda on anyone. Everyone has the right to eat what they want and do whatever they want with their bodies. If it's a crime to tell the OP that fish contains mercury then so be it.
A lot of things contain mercury, not just fish. You should educate us on all things mercury, just in case.
You're off topic. OP's question isn't about thermometers or blood pressure measuring devices or a lot of other things. It's about fish.
^This is almost as much fun as tapping on the glass at a aquarium.0 -
I am not clear on what type of vegetarian you are. I practiced for many years (9) vegetarian. While fish was allowed on road trips/ conferences. I did include dairy and some eggs. I have a compromised immune system and used Vegetarian food to help bolster my immune system. I used Laurels Kitchen, and Moosewood cook books. I was also remember adding a multi-vitamin to include b 12 and vitamin d which a large number of people in North america are short on. I also educated my self on balancing my diet and protein. Through Beans lentils seeds and whole grains. So yes I had fish on the add occasion but it was not part of my whole diet. In doctor visits they would monitor all things and meeting with a dietitian to look at food diaries.0
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Fish is good. Whey Protein gets the job done, makes a nice shake.
Red lentils are 30%protein0 -
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