Is this a cop out?

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  • newmein2013
    newmein2013 Posts: 674 Member
    Oh I am not putting on the brakes! I am just getting warmed up and started! I know it doesnt make sense to work on the mental angles now when I am so far off from it but I dont want to get there and not be prepared for it. Most people that are over 300 like myself have reasons and issues as to why they are that weight. Im just keeping it real with myself and not letting me put limits on me.

    Pinks song Dont Let Me Get Me is my anthem and I am trying to break out of that this year.

    You're gonna find many psychological challenges throughout your entire weight loss process. I think it's best to not over analyze & just go with it. DavPul brought up a great question about the brakes at 30 lbs out. You may not think this is what you're doing but subconsciously that is exactly what you're doing. This line of thinking will only hold you back. Instead of fixating on a number, start obsessing about recipes & workout routines. Educate yourself in nutrition & exercise. Once you do this, the final number won't matter so much b/c you'll be concentrating on the healthy aspects.
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    I truly think you are limiting yourself - here is a link to a thread about what happens when you don't limit yourself:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/824518-fat-girl-dead-lifting


    Hmmmm, that lady looks familiar... lol... I am trying not to limit myself. Truly I am. Thats why I brought it up. To call out the bs in my own mind. :wink:

    I never want to limit myself again. I need to get used to the fact that I CAN do anything I set my mind to. There are deeper psychological issues to work through as well. Reasons why keeping at least some weight on appeals to me. And as I lose and get closer to the 200 lbs mark, I will need to address that issue....

    The reason why I set myself the goal of deadlifting and squatting 100kg (220lbs) is because I thought I'd never make it... I thought the goal was unattainable.

    And I've attained one, and I'm 10kg off the other. Want to know how many of the men at my gym think I can lift that based on how I look? NONE of them. Even a stand-in trainer who'd been told what I could do by my trainer made me do a ton of light lifts because he didn't believe I could.

    You want to know how awesome it feels to be able to achieve something even you didn't think possible? SO FECKING AWESOME!

    Set your goal of losing 100lbs and push to get there, but don't stop because it'll do. Set yourself a fitness goal too... To run 5or 10 k, to lift 100kg, to climb a rockwall, .... Something that means your weight isn't your sole focus -- it makes it a lot easier to get out there and do it. I promise.
  • If you are basing whats going to be "healthy" off BMI then you're gonna have a bad time,

    Ideal BMI for me works out around 170lb also, that leave no room at all for muscle mass. I wouldnt want to get under 95kg even, and that would still make me "overweight".

    Having a goal, and then setting yourself a lesser goal because you'll "feel better" at that weight is just easing the road to settling for less then you can achieve.
  • tanniew78
    tanniew78 Posts: 602 Member
    Oh, I have dietary and fitness goals. I live in Montana, just moved and am aching to climb me some mountains. Granted they are paths but it will be easier to get up there much lighter than I am now! Although I wont let anything get in the way of my exercise and activity goals. Its snowy and crappy right now and the trails are buried under, but you can bet once those babies are uncovered, this girl will be setting the goal to start trying to climb them!

    I am also working to cut out the crap from my diet. THATS the crux of my weight gain and maintain.. I need to balance the two. I am also tired of the effects of certain foods on my body.
  • tanniew78
    tanniew78 Posts: 602 Member
    Ok, point taken that it is in fact a cop out. Ive got that and can move on to the next goal.... I have a goal of around 8-9 lbs a month. Doable but I am by far not going to just settle for that. Im going to strive for even more!
  • nz_deevaa
    nz_deevaa Posts: 12,209 Member
    Thank goodness for that because there is no way I could be any more motivational that that.
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
    Ok, point taken that it is in fact a cop out. Ive got that and can move on to the next goal.... I have a goal of around 8-9 lbs a month. Doable but I am by far not going to just settle for that. Im going to strive for even more!

    Okay I was with you til you said strive for more. 2 pounds a week is a little high. You can lose it as fast as you want, of course, but read on the forums. There are thousands of posts of people who took it off really fast and then can not sustain the loss and gain more. There is a HANDFUL of people who actually keep it off.

    I don't know how much you have to lose, but be careful that you don't lose too fast. I'm going slow. In 9 months I've lost 65 pounds and I am lifting heavy 3 x a week. I am not having the issues with "hanging skin" that some people speak of. The slower you go the better your skin can adjust to the loss.

    Your call. But your ideal goal should be on health. Eating well, eating enough, and working out smart. Good luck to you!
  • Pretty jelly I cant check out awesome mountain scenery!

    Nothing but white sand beaches and sunshine where I live, ;D?
  • tanniew78
    tanniew78 Posts: 602 Member
    Ok, point taken that it is in fact a cop out. Ive got that and can move on to the next goal.... I have a goal of around 8-9 lbs a month. Doable but I am by far not going to just settle for that. Im going to strive for even more!

    Okay I was with you til you said strive for more. 2 pounds a week is a little high. You can lose it as fast as you want, of course, but read on the forums. There are thousands of posts of people who took it off really fast and then can not sustain the loss and gain more. There is a HANDFUL of people who actually keep it off.

    I don't know how much you have to lose, but be careful that you don't lose too fast. I'm going slow. In 9 months I've lost 65 pounds and I am lifting heavy 3 x a week. I am not having the issues with "hanging skin" that some people speak of. The slower you go the better your skin can adjust to the loss.

    Your call. But your ideal goal should be on health. Eating well, eating enough, and working out smart. Good luck to you!


    Right now with me being 300+ lbs, I will lose fast anyways... Anything that gets my butt up off the couch and pair that with eating whole foods.... Ill lost more than 2 lbs to start with. Then it will taper out. I know my body. God knows Ive lost the same damn 60 lbs a few times now! I am finally at a place in my life where I can put me first... Its a nice change and I cant wait to focus on what I can do with myself now!
  • beccyleigh
    beccyleigh Posts: 846 Member
    Yes. Cop out. There aren't many of us that can healthily support 200+ pounds.

    where is the eye roll! :huh: OP how tall are you, what is your current weight.?

    I am 6ft, althletic framed & 2 years ago I was 198lbs & at the healthiest I have ever been, I reversed type 2 diabetes & all my medical levels, cholesterol etc were perfect. I aspire to get down to that again before I make any descisions on going lower so depending on your height, frame, activity level etc 200lbs could be a perfectly comfortable stop point.

    Either way, as you currently weight over 200lbs then getting down to that level will always be considered a good idea.
  • tanniew78
    tanniew78 Posts: 602 Member
    Pretty jelly I cant check out awesome mountain scenery!

    Nothing but white sand beaches and sunshine where I live, ;D?

    lol... that does sound lovely! However there is nothing like stepping outside the door, having the cold air cool you off and look off into the distance and see snow covered mountains like in a scenery calendar.
  • paradog
    paradog Posts: 378 Member
    Is it a cop out...yes.

    Should you make smaller benchmarks for yourself....sure!

    Not everyone will look at a losing 30+ lbs the same way. Benchmark for 10lbs, see how you feel and re-evaluate. You may find that once you start getting closer to 200...you might want to achieve 170. You need to have a goal of health, not weight. Your weight is just a easy way of identifying health.

    Finally you must do what's best for you. We are not the jury. You must be happy with yourself!
  • tanniew78
    tanniew78 Posts: 602 Member
    Yes. Cop out. There aren't many of us that can healthily support 200+ pounds.

    where is the eye roll! :huh: OP how tall are you, what is your current weight.?

    I am 6ft, althletic framed & 2 years ago I was 198lbs & at the healthiest I have ever been, I reversed type 2 diabetes & all my medical levels, cholesterol etc were perfect. I aspire to get down to that again before I make any descisions on going lower so depending on your height, frame, activity level etc 200lbs could be a perfectly comfortable stop point.

    Either way, as you currently weight over 200lbs then getting down to that level will always be considered a good idea.

    I am 5'6 and as I said, it was a past reference point of when I last felt comfortable in my own skin. I didnt feel fat, I looked just slightly overweight. Nothing like now.
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
    Yes. Cop out. There aren't many of us that can healthily support 200+ pounds.

    where is the eye roll! :huh: OP how tall are you, what is your current weight.?

    I am 6ft, althletic framed & 2 years ago I was 198lbs & at the healthiest I have ever been, I reversed type 2 diabetes & all my medical levels, cholesterol etc were perfect. I aspire to get down to that again before I make any descisions on going lower so depending on your height, frame, activity level etc 200lbs could be a perfectly comfortable stop point.

    Either way, as you currently weight over 200lbs then getting down to that level will always be considered a good idea.

    I am 5'6 and as I said, it was a past reference point of when I last felt comfortable in my own skin. I didnt feel fat, I looked just slightly overweight. Nothing like now.

    I'm 5'6" as well. Of course, all bodies are built differently, but when I weigh 200 pounds I am still way overweight and my bf% is still too high. Maybe you could focus on your body fat % and getting it to a healthy level. I know that's my focus now as weight is different for different bodies.
  • Velum_cado
    Velum_cado Posts: 1,608 Member
    I don't think it's a cop out. I don't have a specific goal in mind, but I don't want to be under 200 lbs. It's a personal preference for my appearance, nothing more.
  • Don't think about it. Just go for 5 pounds at a time. Decide not to decide for now. Just one day at a time or 5 lbs. at a time.
  • tanniew78
    tanniew78 Posts: 602 Member
    Pretty jelly I cant check out awesome mountain scenery!

    Nothing but white sand beaches and sunshine where I live, ;D?

    622495_10151196289257102_1270109125_o_zps402dcf08.jpg Montana at the moment!
  • tanniew78
    tanniew78 Posts: 602 Member
    That is just one of the views, the city is surrounded by them and they are breathtaking.
  • caroleannlight
    caroleannlight Posts: 173 Member
    I am going through some similar dilemmas my ticker on here is set for making 200lbs it seemed a nice figure to aim for and will be less than have been for many years. It will take me many months to achieve this. However with the initial results on losing weight and getting fitter on here I set my fitbit ticker to 169lbs ie in the healthy range for my height 5'7''. I will be reevaluating once I hit 200lbs as to where my final goal is. I am hoping I would be focusing more on body fat and exercise goals by then. I want to try to achieve 1.5 lb per week. Which I think is more realistic for me.

    I find that mentally I do better as an overachiever so I think of the goals as a minimum and hope to exceed them. I don't do well with not hitting goals so I am trying to play to my strengths.

    I have a main target of trying to be as healthy and fit as I can for my 20th wedding anniversary in May 2014. I am hoping that 200 -220 is a banker but hoping for the 180-200 range. Currently my fitbit ticker estimates 169 in July 2014 so that is not achievable by my target date so I will take a view on the timing of trying to lose those last pounds +/- body recomposition slowly and gradually move toward maintaining. Have sent you a FR.

    ETA thanks for the views they look awesome. I love hiking and waling and want to get back into that too
  • kristen6022
    kristen6022 Posts: 1,923 Member
    Unless you are taller than 6'0, I don't know any woman that can support a 200+ weight healthily. Period. I'm 5'11 and 147 and I'm as curvy as they come. Just because you haven't been there before doesn't mean it isn't achievable. I call Cop Out. Now, enough with the excuses, take it 10 pounds at a time and get into that healthy BMI range. Obviously tough love is my motivational MO. Stop thinking about it and just work hard.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    Yes. Cop out. There aren't many of us that can healthily support 200+ pounds.

    where is the eye roll! :huh: OP how tall are you, what is your current weight.?

    I am 6ft, althletic framed & 2 years ago I was 198lbs & at the healthiest I have ever been, I reversed type 2 diabetes & all my medical levels, cholesterol etc were perfect. I aspire to get down to that again before I make any descisions on going lower so depending on your height, frame, activity level etc 200lbs could be a perfectly comfortable stop point.

    Either way, as you currently weight over 200lbs then getting down to that level will always be considered a good idea.

    What part of "not many" is unclear? You are 6ft - "not many" women are that tall. Even of the few women that are that tall "not many" of them are still at a healthy weight over 200 pounds. Some are, sure, but not many.
  • AReasor
    AReasor Posts: 355 Member
    I have a larger goal of getting down to 125lbs. But this can seem overwhelming. There are mini goals I have set for myself that are achievable and keep me motivated. For me the idea of losing 40-50lbs. seemed to much. I even told myself that I looked much too skinny and unhealthy at that weight. It was a load of crap. And yes, a cop out. Now that I have lost 25lbs. I realize that.

    Lesson being start the journey and you never know where it may lead.
  • ebrown30
    ebrown30 Posts: 31 Member
    have you been to your doctor to see what a healthy weight for your body type would be. I don't thinkg it should be about being skinny it should be about being healthy.

    Even if you feel good at 200 lbs (I feel good at 200 lbs and I'm pritty active) I know it is not a healthy weith to keep and in the long run it is going to be damaging to my health.
  • amomofthree78
    amomofthree78 Posts: 8 Member
    AS others have stated do what is best for you. Only you know what your body is like. I have a different frame then others, so when I am at 200 pounds I wear a size 12, where some people wear an 18. It's all in how you feel. I hope you continue on a great path and continue losing either way. No matter what your goal is.
  • trophywife24
    trophywife24 Posts: 1,472 Member
    Yes, it is. It's a total cop out, to answer the question.
  • Lyerin
    Lyerin Posts: 818 Member
    I don't think you need to worry about it now. Reevaluate when you get to 200 and see how you feel then. It is (obviously) always better to get to a healthy BMI.
  • nxd10
    nxd10 Posts: 4,570 Member
    Keep going. It's a good habit, you're doing the discipline, you're learning to eat well. Just keep going. It will help it stick as a lifestyle.

    It is so much better for your KIDS for you to eat healthy and stay healthy.

    The last thing you want to do is get back into old habits and regain after all the work you've done.

    You'll surprise yourself.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Yes. Cop out. There aren't many of us that can healthily support 200+ pounds.
    What are you talking about? I am near 200 lbs.

    I hope you're joking
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Yes. Cop out. There aren't many of us that can healthily support 200+ pounds.

    where is the eye roll! :huh: OP how tall are you, what is your current weight.?

    I am 6ft, althletic framed & 2 years ago I was 198lbs & at the healthiest I have ever been, I reversed type 2 diabetes & all my medical levels, cholesterol etc were perfect. I aspire to get down to that again before I make any descisions on going lower so depending on your height, frame, activity level etc 200lbs could be a perfectly comfortable stop point.

    Either way, as you currently weight over 200lbs then getting down to that level will always be considered a good idea.

    good googly goo. I don't understand people sometimes. I really don't. Guess what? I'm 226 right now and in pretty decent shape. My goal weight (which I recently lowered from 225) is like 215 or so. But I'm a 6'1" male that's built like a brick $hithouse. So obviously I'm not including me, you, FitnessSocialist, our anyone else that fits these parameters.

    but guess what? There's very few of us. And I'm doubting the OP is built like a professional athlete. Most people aren't. So you, FS, and anyone else that is, please use intelligence as your guide and exclude yourselves.

    Hell, even I'm trying to lower my weight as much as possible to make it easier on my joints for a 10 mile mud run I have coming up.
  • Mathguy1
    Mathguy1 Posts: 207 Member
    According to your ticker, you are looking to LOSE 200 lbs, not drop down to a 200 lb weight. If correct, then that means that you are 320+ lbs in weight. If that is incorrect, I recommend changing your ticker from one that shows weight loss to one that shows goal weight.

    You've already stated that you need to lose weight. According to your profile, your health is deteriorating. That is because of your obesity.

    The bright news is that while it is true that you are this weight today does not mean that you will be this weight in 6 months to a year's time.

    However, wishing for it will not make is happen. Saying things like "I've always been heavy so I'll be happy at 200 lbs" screams cop out. If you are discouraged about the sheer number of lbs you have left to lose, then set your goal weight to be higher. That way, your ticker will show that you have less weight to lose and you'll always be 20 lbs from your goal and perhaps you wont be discouraged (just remember to keep updating your goals to include a lower goal weight). I recommend doing whatever will keep you motivated. As you continue to lose the weight and live a healthier lifestyle (nutrition and exercise) you'll be motivated to continue. It wont be easy, I wont tell you it will be. Changing one's habits is difficult. However, it does get easier. Once you get into a habit of eating better and exercising, you'll find it easier to continue towards your goal.

    Good luck.