Ketogenic diet.
Kathleenabbott
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I have been reading up on this. It says your fat consumption should be 70 to 80 percent of your diet. Has anyone tried this??? Doesn't make sense to me
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My daughter is on the ketogenic diet for epilespy...always surprises me to hear someone would do this for weight loss. It is a very serious diet and can have very serious side-effects if not managed by a dietician. Should not be taken lightly...0
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Penguins!0
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My daughter is on the ketogenic diet for epilespy...always surprises me to hear someone would do this for weight loss. It is a very serious diet and can have very serious side-effects if not managed by a dietician. Should not be taken lightly...
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And also, this:My daughter is on the ketogenic diet for epilespy...always surprises me to hear someone would do this for weight loss. It is a very serious diet and can have very serious side-effects if not managed by a dietician. Should not be taken lightly...0 -
My daughter is on the ketogenic diet for epilespy...always surprises me to hear someone would do this for weight loss. It is a very serious diet and can have very serious side-effects if not managed by a dietician. Should not be taken lightly...
^^^This!0 -
My daughter is on the ketogenic diet for epilespy...always surprises me to hear someone would do this for weight loss. It is a very serious diet and can have very serious side-effects if not managed by a dietician. Should not be taken lightly...
They're 2 different diets with the same name and the Keto diet for weight loss really should be renamed. I agree with you - if anyone tried the Keto diet for epilepsy without being epileptic, they're in trouble.
To the OP - a Keto diet for weight loss uses a 1 to 1 fat to protein ratio rather than the 4 to 1 fat to combined protein and carbs ratio of the Ketogenic Diet by Johns Hopkins used to treat epilepsy.0 -
meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me0 -
meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!0 -
meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!
Mmmhmmm very well indeed!0 -
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meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!
Mmmhmmm very well indeed!
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Exactly what lizziebeth said. It's mostly used for people with a seizure disorder. They are on a very strict diet and are often supported by a doctor. Not something that the average person should try without consulting a doctor.0
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meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!
Mmmhmmm very well indeed!
Very very very very well indeed!!!0 -
ive just had a quick read up about this diet .. it sounds almost the same as Atkins to me0
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Smashing good idea there....indeed!! \m/meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!
Mmmhmmm very well indeed!
Very very very very well indeed!!!0 -
Not sustainable for MOST people and if you are naturally the type of eater who has more balances meals then I would certainly not recommend it.0
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meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!
Mmmhmmm very well indeed!
Very very very very well indeed!!!
Any better and we couldn't stand it.0 -
meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
This is terrible advice and will turn you into a Giraffecat.0 -
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Smashing good idea there....indeed!! \m/meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!
Mmmhmmm very well indeed!
Very very very very well indeed!!!
what the Giraffe Kitty said...have you SEEN her neck? So long, slender and graceful...it's SO working So well...
I am in awe and jelly of her... (blushes) don't tell her I said that though.0 -
Eskimo's consume much whale blubber - is this considered a ketogenic diet?0
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meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
crazy good0 -
Smashing good idea there....indeed!! \m/meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
^ It is working too! Working very well!
Mmmhmmm very well indeed!
Very very very very well indeed!!!
what the Giraffe Kitty said...have you SEEN her neck? So long, slender and graceful...it's SO working So well...
I am in awe and jelly of her... (blushes) don't tell her I said that though.
I am calling for a ban on the word jelly, unless you are referencing a yummy sammich with PB.
I also agree with the cranky cat giraffe lady. Then again, have you seen her backward stretchy pic? I keep trying to look up at my monitor to better see....well.....0 -
70/80% fat sounds like a bit much. I try to eat Primal and limit starchy carbs and grains, mainly because I find I don't miss them and that those foods pack a ton of calories and don't satiate you like fat and meet does. I'm probably more like 40% protein/40% fat/20% carbs.0
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I appreciate all of your responses. I am at a plateau and was looking for something to jumpstart my weight loss again. I think I will pass on this one. I would still like to go low carb. Any suggestions on the ratio for a HEALTHY diet?0
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Keto is currently being used as an interchangeable term with low-carb. This is not the same as the epileptic Ketogenic diet, which is very high fat.
For a basic overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-carbohydrate_diet
Good fats are good and required for life. You don't need any carbs to live, but you do need essential fatty acids and essential amino acids from protein. Source: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/how-many-carbohydrates-do-you-need.html
"Traditional Inuit diets derive, at most, 35-40% of their calories from protein, with 50-75% of calories preferably coming from fat. This high fat content provides valuable energy and prevents protein poisoning, which historically was sometimes a problem in late winter when game animals grew lean through winter starvation. Because the fats of the Inuit's wild-caught game are largely monounsaturated and rich in omega-3 fatty acids, the diet does not pose the same health risks as a typical Western high-fat diet." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuit_diet
Right now I've got my macros set to 10% carbs, 35% protein, 55% fat.
I find that the biggest benefit of eating this way is appetite control. Both fat and protein are highly satiating. So is fiber, so throw in some green veggies too. If you want to lose weight, you still need to eat at a caloric deficit. Each person needs to find what works for them. Some people exercise more, some people use meal-replacement shakes, some use intermittent fasting, some just use will power, and some have a wake-up health scare. Find what works for you, but Keto/Atkins/Low Carb/etc. are all good ways to break sugar/carb cravings and help control appetite if that is a particular issue for you.0 -
Thanks Remo. Sounds like a good plan to try. Good info.0
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meh.
eat right
work hard
repeat
i do 40/30/30 percent carbs/protein/fat... its been working well for me
Doesn't matter.
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I should also add that strictly speaking a Keto diet is where you push your carbs low enough that your body starts using ketone bodies for fuel as opposed to glucose, so it is very possible to be low carb without being truly Keto. Some people I've discussed this with find that after practicing with this kind of diet for some time, they are able to switch between these two metabolic pathways fairly easily (without side-effect), whereas someone coming at it the first time may need 2 weeks or more eating less than 30 grams of carbs per day to switch over to being in ketosis. During this adaption period, it is normal to feel really bad (the "keto flu").
Also the reason that you do not need to eat carbs is that your body can create them from protein as needed (which they are, for brain function as an example).
I think the main focus on fats now is that many people tried doing both low carb AND low fat at the same time, and this doesn't work so well. The main thing to realize is that fat is NOT the enemy, but an essential part of the diet. For "health" eat the healthy fats rather than the bad fats. For weight loss, it's more about the calories than the source.0 -
Works for me. I feel better and have better performance. I usually eat 5% of carbs per day (23 grams) and saturdays I consume all the carbs I want. Adaptation to nutritional ketosis is hard and going out of it is easy. We tend to confuse ketoacidosis and nutritional ketosis. Inform yourself. You can check my profile and add me if you want.0
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