juice more calories than eating the veggies and fruit???

twistedlefty
twistedlefty Posts: 28
in Food and Nutrition
maybe i'm not searching the database correctly but this is what i found. the juice of 2 apples and 2 carrots had more calories than eating the same.
does adding a bit of water to the blender somehow change the calorie count or is the type of apple the problem?

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  • successgal1
    successgal1 Posts: 996 Member
    The problem is it takes more juice to fill a cup, then it does an entire apple. I cup of juice is several apples, 1 cup of apple, is about 1 large apple.
  • kaylalryan
    kaylalryan Posts: 136 Member
    It doesn't make sense that there is more calories in juice....I'm sure the gram for gram amounts or the type of fruits, or calories per piece, are just different.

    I juice daily and I add the calories of the whole fruits that I put in. (I weigh the fruit and veggies)... From what I understand, and someone correct me if I am wrong, but this is how juicing should be entered since the majority of the calorie laden materials from the fruits and veggies are in your juice...(pretty much all of the calories except the fibrous pulp).

    Hope this helps.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    dont overthink it!
  • sullykat
    sullykat Posts: 461 Member
    ^^^ exactly. It takes way more than one apple to make a "serving" of apple juice. It is impossible to add calories to something simply by altering it's original state. You have to add something that also contains calories to it to make the calories go up.
  • harr3mi
    harr3mi Posts: 87 Member
    I think the database is potentially using processed juices which are often times made "From Concentrate" which when reconstituted usually has a higher sugar content (due to less water being added back) thus upping the caloric intake.
  • Muddy_Yogi
    Muddy_Yogi Posts: 1,459 Member
    If you are Juicing, then just enter the fruits and veggies you are putting in there.
  • DEEDLYNN
    DEEDLYNN Posts: 235 Member
    If I juice an apple and a carrot, I add an apple and a carrot. MFP doesn't care if I eat it raw, juice it, or even roast it plain. It's still an apple and a carrot.
  • Jim1960
    Jim1960 Posts: 194
    All the above, of course, assumes that you're leaving all the fiber in the resulting juice. If you remove all that pulp, then they are not the same thing.
  • JediMaster_intraining
    JediMaster_intraining Posts: 903 Member
    For my green smoothies I just add the fruit/veggies in my diary as if I was eating it whole. It's sort of like a recipe if you wanna look at it that way and you can enter it as a recipe in the system if you constantly drink a certain smoothie with certain ingredients.


    I hope this helps!
  • Firefox7275
    Firefox7275 Posts: 2,040 Member
    All the above, of course, assumes that you're leaving all the fiber in the resulting juice.

    To me that is not juicing, it's blending. Is there a different meaning in American English?
  • twistedlefty
    twistedlefty Posts: 28
    ok, that makes sense.

    the problem is i specifically searched " juice 2 apples,
    2 carrots" this gave me about 1.25 cups at 300 calories,
    eating 2 apples and 2 carrots added up to 160 calories.
    i'm thinking that this has to be off
    also i failed to mention that i'm trying out my new ninja blender (not a juicer) and it leaves a pulp that has to be pushed thru a sieve. this accounts for the smaller amount of juice i got compared to doing the same with my juicer.
  • jacktheripped
    jacktheripped Posts: 2
    Juice is more calorie dense than the whole fruit, because the juice is what contains the glucose and fructose (sugars). This is why it tastes so good. The pulp contains whatever fibre and other goodness might be in the fruit.

    As an aside, fruit juice is NOT a good diet food. As aforementioned it is full of sugars to spike your insulin levels and store fat, and it is not satiating so will make you hungry quicker. Fruit itself is not even that good either. It is good for you in terms of getting vitamins, but go with green veg for the same vitamins with none of the un-needed sugar!
  • successgal1
    successgal1 Posts: 996 Member
    ok, that makes sense.

    the problem is i specifically searched " juice 2 apples,
    2 carrots" this gave me about 1.25 cups at 300 calories,
    eating 2 apples and 2 carrots added up to 160 calories.
    i'm thinking that this has to be off

    It sounds more like it gave you the figure for 1.25 cups of apple juice. You should measure the juice by the amount of liquid, not by what form its in before juice. So back to your first question, maybe you're not using the database right.
  • jtslim42
    jtslim42 Posts: 240
    If you juice an apple in a huicer and are trying to figure out calories, then you need to know that 1 gram of fiber = 4 calories. In juicing you do not get any of the fiber so you would need to subract that amount from the total calories of the apple. Hope that helps.
  • twistedlefty
    twistedlefty Posts: 28
    thanks everyone, i am new here and can't believe how many helpful replies i got in such a short time. thanks again everyone!
  • waldo56
    waldo56 Posts: 1,861 Member
    Some numbers in MFP's database suck.

    You are always safer going compoent by component than using an already combined entry.

    Follow the wisdom of crowds and avoid outliers in the database. If there are 10 entries for an 8 oz steak being 300ish calories, one for it being 120 calories, and one for it being 950 calories, stick with the crowd.

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