Confused newbie....
RacheUk82
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Ok, So I guess this may have been asked a million times before, but I cant seem to find the specific answer in search....
I am 5'4, A Nurse, so on my feet most of the day. I am 204lb. (oh the shame!) My TDEE is 2340, so I set my intake at 1800 to loose weight..... still with me?
I am doing 45-60 mins of cardio at least twice a week, and some lifting in there too, If I log this, it adds to my calorie intake.
I know the whole debate on eating back your exercise calories, but that would take me back to 2000kcal ish, and I just cant eat that much! and with working shifts I don't always have time to eat.
My average daily intakes since logging around 1000-1300 before exercise, Guess what I want to know is should I be eating my TDEE regardless? I have it in my head to loose weight, you eat less and move more, but MFP seems to say move more eat more?
Sorry if I have opened up an age old debate, but I just want to know what I should be doing to keep my body healthy and loose all my junk!
Please help..... feel free to add me if you wish.
I am 5'4, A Nurse, so on my feet most of the day. I am 204lb. (oh the shame!) My TDEE is 2340, so I set my intake at 1800 to loose weight..... still with me?
I am doing 45-60 mins of cardio at least twice a week, and some lifting in there too, If I log this, it adds to my calorie intake.
I know the whole debate on eating back your exercise calories, but that would take me back to 2000kcal ish, and I just cant eat that much! and with working shifts I don't always have time to eat.
My average daily intakes since logging around 1000-1300 before exercise, Guess what I want to know is should I be eating my TDEE regardless? I have it in my head to loose weight, you eat less and move more, but MFP seems to say move more eat more?
Sorry if I have opened up an age old debate, but I just want to know what I should be doing to keep my body healthy and loose all my junk!
Please help..... feel free to add me if you wish.
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Seriously, the eating back your calories thing is getting on my nerves. You are hungry, you eat. period.
We were all very active until after our teenage years and we never ate back our 2000 or 3000 calories we burned per day!! We are
still alive.
I was even very sporty, and never ate that much.. except every weekends or 2 weekends when there was a family dinner... All this until I have turned 25 and got in an unhealthy relationship, ate my brains out and kept my butt on the couch.
The point of exercise is to burn some calories to keep them off and lose weight.
Of course, don't burn 2000 calories and eat 500!!!0 -
I think you set a goal for your daily calorie intake that would allow you to lose with out any excercise, then if you exercise you are just burning off more. That allows a little splurge if and when you really want it. For me I do better if i just stick to the base number of calories every day. Good luck...0
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i try to eat a min of 1200 cal every day- the extra work out calories- if i am hungry i eat - something healthy I try not to eat junk but it happens LOL- if i am not hungry i dont eat- try adding dairy, peanut butter, nuts etc- high in calories but good for you-0
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Maybe I can help to better explain this concept. Your goal is to eat 1800 calories a day. Lets say you are going out to your favorite restaurant for dinner and know that you are going to go over the set 1800 calories for that day (nothing wrong with this) exercise helps to allow you to have that incredible meal and stay within your calorie range. In a way exercise and moving lets us eat more through the day - I sometimes feel very restricted by my calorie level and get moving if I want to eat more.
I dont think I like the term eating back our calories - it is better to understand that your body has depleted so much while exercising and you need to replenish somethings through eating. Much like as a nurse you give various electrolytes to a patient and or D5 you need to give yourself those things through food. Eating post work out will help you to hydrate and rebuild broken down muscle.
If you really want to lose a healthy amount of weight each week I would suggest sticking as close as possible to that 1800 calorie number. Eating 3+ meals a day will also help. When we do not feed our bodies we tend to hold onto everything we give it as the body is not sure when it will get food again. Sorry this is long but I hope that it helps you!!!0 -
I think your TDEE is higher than 2300 if you are on your feet all day. I work a desk job, same height and 210 pounds, and my TDEE is 2500.
Having said that, 1800 calories is not a bad place to start because I doubt your TDEE is more than 2800. (not counting any exercise you may do above and beyond your normal daily activity) Try it and see if it works for you.0 -
Seriously, the eating back your calories thing is getting on my nerves. You are hungry, you eat. period.
We were all very active until after our teenage years and we never ate back our 2000 or 3000 calories we burned per day!! We are
still alive.
I was even very sporty, and never ate that much.. except every weekends or 2 weekends when there was a family dinner... All this until I have turned 25 and got in an unhealthy relationship, ate my brains out and kept my butt on the couch.
The point of exercise is to burn some calories to keep them off and lose weight.
Of course, don't burn 2000 calories and eat 500!!!
Actually, I'm sure that we ate our exercise calories when we were kids. I know I did. I was a healthy weight back then.0 -
Oh yeah.. I was a walking skeleton.... :grumble:Seriously, the eating back your calories thing is getting on my nerves. You are hungry, you eat. period.
We were all very active until after our teenage years and we never ate back our 2000 or 3000 calories we burned per day!! We are
still alive.
I was even very sporty, and never ate that much.. except every weekends or 2 weekends when there was a family dinner... All this until I have turned 25 and got in an unhealthy relationship, ate my brains out and kept my butt on the couch.
The point of exercise is to burn some calories to keep them off and lose weight.
Of course, don't burn 2000 calories and eat 500!!!
Actually, I'm sure that we ate our exercise calories when we were kids. I know I did. I was a healthy weight back then.0 -
Ok, wow. I just saw your diary. You aren't eating 1800 calories. Instead you are starving yourself. Eat! Please eat your 1800. If you don't eat enough, it puts stress on your body, increases cortisol, other abnormal hormone levels, slows your metabolism, not to mention making yourself miserable and ready to give up on trying to lose weight.
I started at 263 and lose 2 pounds a week on 1800 calories. Please eat. It made me sad when I looked at your diary. :flowerforyou:0 -
hi i am new to this but i need to ask do you add fruit and veg to your calorie counter i doubt you do because its good calories but just to be shore i am asking who ever can help me
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MFP does not include exercise in its calculations so when you do exercise, you need more calories for fuel or else you are creating too much of a deficit.
You are set for 1 pound a week loss at 500 calories a day. Eating 1800 would result in 1 pound a week. If you also exercised 500 cals off, that may be too much of a deficit. In your case perhaps not, but for people who do not have a lot of weight left to lose it would be too great of a deficit.0 -
hi i am new to this but i need to ask do you add fruit and veg to your calorie counter i doubt you do because its good calories but just to be shore i am asking who ever can help me
thank you
Yes, log everything. They are calories and all calories count.0 -
I don't see the point in eating back the calories. After I have a nice sweaty cardio session I drink 14 oz of 1% TruMoo Chocolate milk. I eat dinner after I work out ( I work out after work ) because I get nasty heartburn if I do before. I fully intend to save those "extra calories I've earned" for my wine night with my girlfriend or takeout night with my family. Don't shove food down your throat just because you have the extra calories. Good Luck and keep on keepin on! :drinker:0
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Very well said!!!!!!0
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Seriously, the eating back your calories thing is getting on my nerves. You are hungry, you eat. period.
We were all very active until after our teenage years and we never ate back our 2000 or 3000 calories we burned per day!! We are
still alive.
I was even very sporty, and never ate that much.. except every weekends or 2 weekends when there was a family dinner... All this until I have turned 25 and got in an unhealthy relationship, ate my brains out and kept my butt on the couch.
The point of exercise is to burn some calories to keep them off and lose weight.
Of course, don't burn 2000 calories and eat 500!!!0 -
Ok, So I guess this may have been asked a million times before, but I cant seem to find the specific answer in search....
I am 5'4, A Nurse, so on my feet most of the day. I am 204lb. (oh the shame!) My TDEE is 2340, so I set my intake at 1800 to loose weight..... still with me?
I am doing 45-60 mins of cardio at least twice a week, and some lifting in there too, If I log this, it adds to my calorie intake.
I know the whole debate on eating back your exercise calories, but that would take me back to 2000kcal ish, and I just cant eat that much! and with working shifts I don't always have time to eat.
My average daily intakes since logging around 1000-1300 before exercise, Guess what I want to know is should I be eating my TDEE regardless? I have it in my head to loose weight, you eat less and move more, but MFP seems to say move more eat more?
Sorry if I have opened up an age old debate, but I just want to know what I should be doing to keep my body healthy and loose all my junk!
Please help..... feel free to add me if you wish.
Being on your feet is not necessarily the same as burning loads of calories or being active even tho it absolutely is tiring on the legs, how many steps do you take each shift? Some nursing staff do loads but others are classed as sedentary or don't hit the recommended 10,000 a day.
http://www.nursezone.com/Nursing-News-Events/devices-and-technology.aspx?articleID=15631
http://allnurses.com/first-year-after/how-many-miles-508073.html
http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2012/6/prweb9608933.htm
There was also a small informal UK study which I cannot find a link to where the nurses did not manage 10,000 steps, it was chefs who walked the most IIRC. I imagine the department/ ward is much of the wide variation.
Do you not get any breaks on your shift or are you just not taking them? Given you are in the UK you have a legal right to a break, resting and eating should help you be more productive and help avoid mistakes. Are you not even drinking anything? Stuff like smoothies and blended soups can be very nutritious and are easy to drink/ eat. You don't have to go to the canteen and eat a junky full meal (have worked in UK hospitals!).0 -
I don't see the point in eating back the calories. After I have a nice sweaty cardio session I drink 14 oz of 1% TruMoo Chocolate milk. I eat dinner after I work out ( I work out after work ) because I get nasty heartburn if I do before. I fully intend to save those "extra calories I've earned" for my wine night with my girlfriend or takeout night with my family. Don't shove food down your throat just because you have the extra calories. Good Luck and keep on keepin on! :drinker:
Because you might be creating too much of a calorie deficit which could be unhealthy and not result in the weight loss you want.
Please learn how MFP works.0 -
Personally, I exercise so I can eat more. It is my motivation. It is the best way to go. I love food and to not eat would never work. Plus I need my energy to get through my workouts. You will burn muscle if you do not eat the proper calories. Starving yourself will not work and you will lose motivation and go back. Reward yourself, you worked hard to do it. The weight loss comes, I promise.0
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I'm a newbie too, how did you post a message on messageboard? I can't figure it out0
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I don't see the point in eating back the calories. After I have a nice sweaty cardio session I drink 14 oz of 1% TruMoo Chocolate milk. I eat dinner after I work out ( I work out after work ) because I get nasty heartburn if I do before. I fully intend to save those "extra calories I've earned" for my wine night with my girlfriend or takeout night with my family. Don't shove food down your throat just because you have the extra calories. Good Luck and keep on keepin on! :drinker:
Because you might be creating too much of a calorie deficit which could be unhealthy and not result in the weight loss you want.
Please learn how MFP works.
But eating more just because you can and not hungry is idiotic. I am learning how MFP works, I'm new not stupid. I thought it was only supposed to be positive things not snappy unnecessary remarks. I didn't appreciate that.0 -
Hey hunny just had a little look at your diary and you not eating anywhere enough to lose weight. The absolute minimum you should be eating is 1200 calories a day otherwise your body will lose to start with but then stop because your body will go into starvation mode. If MFP has set your daily allowance at 1800 then you should be eating 1800. I don't always eat my exercise calories back, only if I am hungry, though I do always have a post workout snack including nuts especially after lifting weights.
I appreciate that as a nurse its not always possible for you to grab 3 meals a day, so make sure that you have healthy snacks, fruit and nuts for example with you so you can always eat something. In a job like yours is about planning your food ahead of time.
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The answer is ... it depends on how you set up you MFP. When you set up your MFP, it asked you if you were sedentary, moderately active, etc.; if you picked sedentary, but you are now exercising and not actually being sedentary, you can eat the calories you burned off without impacting your weight loss goal. If you took your exercise and your daily routine into account by choosing moderate, very active, etc., you do not need to eat the calories you burned off (you already counted them in the estimate).
Looking at your stats, your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is 1630 calories/day. This is the minimum amount of calories (net) your body needs to function properly (you would burn this many calories if all you did was sleep all day). Even if you were sedentary, you could eat 2000 calories without gaining weight.0 -
But eating more just because you can and not hungry is idiotic. I am learning how MFP works, I'm new not stupid. I thought it was only supposed to be positive things not snappy unnecessary remarks. I didn't appreciate that.
You are the one using insults like idiotic, that could be deemed a personal attack. Calories are not everything, we eat enough overall food to tell our body there is no famine, to supply all the nutrients the body needs for health and to support the metabolism and energy production. Hunger is a sign that we have failed to give our body the nutrients it needs, not an early warning system it is a meal time. It is fairly easy to mess up natural hunger and satiety signals by eating the wrong foods, skipping meals, being dehydrated, consistently overeating or simply being obese (fat produces hormones).0 -
I don't see the point in eating back the calories. After I have a nice sweaty cardio session I drink 14 oz of 1% TruMoo Chocolate milk. I eat dinner after I work out ( I work out after work ) because I get nasty heartburn if I do before. I fully intend to save those "extra calories I've earned" for my wine night with my girlfriend or takeout night with my family. Don't shove food down your throat just because you have the extra calories. Good Luck and keep on keepin on! :drinker:
Because you might be creating too much of a calorie deficit which could be unhealthy and not result in the weight loss you want.
Please learn how MFP works.
But eating more just because you can and not hungry is idiotic. I am learning how MFP works, I'm new not stupid. I thought it was only supposed to be positive things not snappy unnecessary remarks. I didn't appreciate that.
You eat more because your body needs it, not just because "you can". You need the nutrition, vitamins, minerals, etc, and you need the "fuel" or calories. Eating too little can be just as detrimental as eating too much.
I don't know what your calorie goal is, but new people here tend to choose "lose 2 pounds per week" which often makes MFP set you to 1,200 calories a day. This number is not appropriate for a lot of people, and especially active people, so if you work out, you definitely NEED to eat those calories back. It isn't idiotic, it is sensible and healthy.0 -
thank you for your help
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I don't see the point in eating back the calories. After I have a nice sweaty cardio session I drink 14 oz of 1% TruMoo Chocolate milk. I eat dinner after I work out ( I work out after work ) because I get nasty heartburn if I do before. I fully intend to save those "extra calories I've earned" for my wine night with my girlfriend or takeout night with my family. Don't shove food down your throat just because you have the extra calories. Good Luck and keep on keepin on! :drinker:
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I havent finished reading the posts that follow this one...but I posted earlier on this and simply stated you are not eating back calories but simply rebuilding what has broken down during exercise. I truly feel that we exercise in order to get some of those goodies in like wine or take out. For example I knew ahead of time that my dinner was not going to be low cal and so I went out for a run before in order to eat what I wanted. It allowed me to be happy and satisfied with some room to spare for dessert. I have earned it but dont look at it as eating back calories...we must eat to lose weight!
Great job with with chocolate milk...did a lot of research for sports nutrition class and that is one of the best recovery drinks after a work out if your GI tract can handle it.0
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