Still confused, NET:

Ive read up so much on this but I still dont get how it works..
So say I ate 2000 calorie TOTAL. but worked out say... 700 calories off.
My NET would be 1300 yes? and apparently i'd still lose weight by doing this?
how can someone lose weight by eating 2000 calories?

also i never NET above 1000 calories unless I havnt worked out that day...
is this bad? :/

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  • lilteeraw
    lilteeraw Posts: 261
    anyone? lol i know i could just go read other posts.. but ive tried and still dont understand why this works!
  • Bobby__Clerici
    Bobby__Clerici Posts: 741 Member
    Net calories are total calories eaten minus your exercise calories.
    Calories in MINUS calories out EQUALS net calories.
    2,000 calories eaten MINUS 500 calories burned EQUALS 1,500 net calories.
  • ubermensch13
    ubermensch13 Posts: 824 Member
    Unless you are under 5'ft, you should be netting over 1000, 1200 at least!
  • lilteeraw
    lilteeraw Posts: 261
    im 5'3 and usually net 900.. but ill eat lik 1400-1900 a day.. so im guessing this is bad?
  • ubermensch13
    ubermensch13 Posts: 824 Member
    Well, it isn't healthy or sustainable. You are much more likely to binge or do long term damage if you survive long term on 900 cals a day Net. Plus, looking at your pictures, you don't need to lose any weight...have you thought about starting weight training and eating at maintenance?
  • lilteeraw
    lilteeraw Posts: 261
    Ahhh.. well i do cardio everyday and strength training almost everyday...
    ive been gradually increasing my calories but need to get this NET thing down.
  • Firefox7275
    Firefox7275 Posts: 2,040 Member
    Your goal weight is under the minimum recommended Body Mass Index. I don't know how much you weigh now but your BMR at 140 was about 1500 cals, that was the amount needed then to keep you healthy in a coma. Other calories are burned through activities of daily living (ADL), eating and digesting food, formal exercise. Depending how much you burn on all these denotes your TDEE or the amount needed to maintain weight. Different lifestyles burn different amounts, some people have very active jobs AND are carrying around a heavier body so burn more calories on ADLs than someone slimmer and less active.

    Your net is not supplying the basic nutrients your body needs for health, repair, recovery and maintenance of muscle mass. Your diary indicates a large amount of processed/ branded foods so doesn't meet the basic healthy eating guidelines, your fruit and veg and fat intakes are very low, you don't seem to eat much dairy and I assume you are vegetarian. Honestly I am concerned for your health if you continue down this path.
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    Wow, I'm so glad you asked this.....now I'm worried. no wonder why I've gotten worse.......
  • Durinbie
    Durinbie Posts: 3 Member
    You've got it right only if you've set your activity level to your normal daily activity not including your workouts. If you have a desk job and you set it to sedentary then you can safely add your 700 calorie workout into how many more calories you can eat. If you set it to lightly active, active or very active then its already giving you extra calories to eat and you should only eat 700 more if you really were that active that day outside your workout.
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    Your goal weight is under the minimum recommended Body Mass Index. I don't know how much you weigh now but your BMR at 140 was about 1500 cals, that was the amount needed then to keep you healthy in a coma. Other calories are burned through activities of daily living (ADL), eating and digesting food, formal exercise. Depending how much you burn on all these denotes your TDEE or the amount needed to maintain weight. Different lifestyles burn different amounts, some people have very active jobs AND are carrying around a heavier body so burn more calories on ADLs than someone slimmer and less active.

    Your net is not supplying the basic nutrients your body needs for health, repair, recovery and maintenance of muscle mass. Your diary indicates a large amount of processed/ branded foods so doesn't meet the basic healthy eating guidelines, your fruit and veg and fat intakes are very low, you don't seem to eat much dairy and I assume you are vegetarian. Honestly I am concerned for your health if you continue down this path.

    I don't think if a food is processed that it will hinder your results greatly. Almost everything is processed now. It would drive me nuts trying to eat completely natural and cost so much. Some people can't afford it.
  • lilteeraw
    lilteeraw Posts: 261
    I eat fruits like crazy... i dont eat fatty greasy foods. and i try my best to get the most natural foods. its hard though with such expensive stuff.. but i am going to whole foods tomorrow and will make sure to get more good foods.
  • alexbusnello
    alexbusnello Posts: 1,010 Member
    I eat fruits like crazy... i dont eat fatty greasy foods. and i try my best to get the most natural foods. its hard though with such expensive stuff.. but i am going to whole foods tomorrow and will make sure to get more good foods.

    I only try to get certain things natural since it costs so much. At least I'm getting some things in a more natural state.
  • Bobby__Clerici
    Bobby__Clerici Posts: 741 Member
  • lilteeraw
    lilteeraw Posts: 261
    i know ive read that before. ive read a lot on net but idk why im still so confused-.- maybe im skeptical.
  • CoderGal
    CoderGal Posts: 6,800 Member
    ^that
  • ubermensch13
    ubermensch13 Posts: 824 Member
    Ahhh.. well i do cardio everyday and strength training almost everyday...
    ive been gradually increasing my calories but need to get this NET thing down.

    I'd suggest cutting down on the cardio, focusing on strength training, and giving yourself a few rest days.
  • Robin_Bin
    Robin_Bin Posts: 1,046 Member

    ^ Read it again.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Robin_Bin/view/mfp-terms-introductory-274185

    You lose weight if your Net Calories is below your TDEE for a sustained period of time. At 5'3" it is extremely unlikely that your TDEE is under 1,000 calories per day. In fact with the exercise and at your age, it's probably closer to 2,000/day.

    What have you calculated as your TDEE and your BMR? It's generally unhealthy to eat under your BMR and shouldn't be done without getting medical approval first. You almost certainly should be eating more in order to be healthy.

    *Edited to clarify.
  • lilteeraw
    lilteeraw Posts: 261
    im eating say 1800 calories a day.. but netting way less..
    i dont get how eating 1800 is bad.
  • Robin_Bin
    Robin_Bin Posts: 1,046 Member
    You asked if it was "bad" to eat as you are doing. And you've been told by several people that it's unhealthy. You've been given reasons why it's unhealthy and pointed to other posts with guidance about how to be healthier and lose weight or maintain weight loss. And now you're still asking why it's bad. You either have an eating disorder or are headed toward one quickly. PLEASE get some help.

    Once more, here are some of the quotes and reasons why what your are doing is unhealthy and bad for you.

    As Firefox7275 said,
    Your net is not supplying the basic nutrients your body needs for health, repair, recovery and maintenance of muscle mass. Your diary indicates a large amount of processed/ branded foods so doesn't meet the basic healthy eating guidelines, your fruit and veg and fat intakes are very low, you don't seem to eat much dairy and I assume you are vegetarian. Honestly I am concerned for your health if you continue down this path.
    As ubermensch13 said,
    Well, it isn't healthy or sustainable. You are much more likely to binge or do long term damage if you survive long term on 900 cals a day Net. Plus, looking at your pictures, you don't need to lose any weight...have you thought about starting weight training and eating at maintenance?

    Eating too little means your body is not getting the fuel it needs, that's calories, but also nutrients -- vitamins and minerals, which are especially important in a young body that's still finishing developing. Not eating enough can cause problems like a lower energy level and lowering your metabolism as it tries to hold onto every calorie that it can. To hold onto those calories, your body begins by shutting down the less critical functions. That results is cosmetic issues like hair falling out, brittle nails and acne. But eventually it results in more serious issues like causing brittle bones, liver, heart and other organ problems. If that's not enough, extreme eating, as opposed to learning how to eat a healthy way, can set you up for yo-yo dieting and result in actually weighing even less healthy amount (at both ends of the range) for years to come.

    Eating 1,800 calories/day is fine when that's all your body needs. Based on what you've said about what you are eating and doing, in your case it is not enough, so it is not healthy or good. If you are truly listening and looking for a healthy amount to eat, provide the information requested about your estimated TDEE and BMR, so people can help with more appropriate amounts for you. If you're still not convinced, you need to talk to a competent, medical professional.
  • JudyAngelman
    JudyAngelman Posts: 58 Member
    Great explanation, hope others take the advice also.
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