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  • foleyshirley
    foleyshirley Posts: 1,043 Member
    i have no problem taking advice people give me , also my bmi is within the health range its 21 . Its just rude when people just post go see a doctor and dont offer any more advice. I'd like to educate myself on what im doing wrong and work to make things better for a more successful me. sorry if i'm getting snippy but you have to understand how this is frustrating for me

    OK, here is a link. Read it and educate yourself on BMR and TDEE and come up with a reasonable target for calories. Or, follow MFP guidelines and NET at least 1200 calories. That means you eat 1200, and any exercise calories. Just eating 1200 would be a great start. From there you can add slowly.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12

    And the reason people aren't giving you more advice is because your diary is really that scary.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I don't know how long, exactly, you've been eating like this..but I would go see your physician just in case. Long term eating like this is very harmful to you.

    Aside from that...

    If you want, check out this link by MFPer Heliotsdan - http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12

    It'll give you a detailed walkthrough (with pictures even) on finding your TDEE and calculating what you should be eating.

    Or for a different version to figure out your TDEE, as well as some great advice...check out:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/833500-what-do-i-do-common-sense-cliff-notes



    Also, if you are worried about the calorie intake, I also suggest you read this thread that has numerous people who met their goals and are maintaining. Some for years and they also provide their calorie intake and how often they work out.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/816542-let-s-hear-it-for-maintainenance

    For more information about fitness and nutrition, I highly suggest checking out and joining this group:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/10118-eat-train-progress

    Read all the stickies. It's great information to know.



    For the whole eating under a 1000 calories, look...you are going to do what you want but check out the link below at some of the stories of people who thought it was okay (especially because they weren't "feeling" hungry a lot of times) but ended up regretting it. These links are just information to give you options. I'm not preaching or trying to tell you or anyone what is the "right way"...just throwing some info your way is all.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/521480-1000-calories-or-less-a-day
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/3047-700-calories-a-day-and-not-losing


    And even if the # seems high and you feel that you can't eat all that food - just remember there are foods (healthy foods) that are higher in calories that will help you meet your goal. You can add protein shakes (I use Optimum Nutrition brand and I do it to help me meet my protein macros), olive or avocado oil, pastas, rice, peanut butter, etc.
  • HeatherLaShae4
    HeatherLaShae4 Posts: 59 Member
    i cant believe this is even real, either youre not logging everything or you have got a serious problem. I went back in your diary as far as November 3rd, and the highest amount of calories you ate in one day from nov 3rd til now, is 900. please tell me where mfp told you to eat LESS than the calories it gave you, and PLEASE tell me what you have been thinking eating so low? i wanna hear your thoughts behind this, THEN maybe we could help you.

    I realize after eating this low for so long it will be hard for you to eat more all of a sudden, so try upping your calorie intake in increments, like up it 100 cals everyday, until you reach 1200-1500, <<<< i have been eating 1200-1500 for 172 days now, and not tryin to sound conceited but i look fabulous... if you keep this up, all you'll have is skinny fat, and thats gross no offense. OR you will go into cardiac arrest,

    so tell me, what is your GOAL ? to look awesome and feel/be healthy? or to look sick, and feel/be unhealthy?
  • jenndymond
    jenndymond Posts: 117 Member
    I can tell you what everyone else says but as you replyed its not useful and you would like to educate yourself.

    Here is an artical on what happens when you dont have enough calories.
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/431427-consequences-of-too-little-calories/

    Also looking through your diary im noticing you seving sizes are quit small. Forinstance one days you had 1/8 a cup of blackberries. Thats about one maybe 2 berries? Or wendy's chicken breast only said 2oz. An average wendy's chicken breast is at least 5. I would look that you are recording your food sizes properly.

    As you are quit small from what I judge deom your picture you might want to consider lifting and strength training as that is a better way to tone your body but you would need many many more calories and even more protien to manage that.

    If I look that your serving sizes are larger you eat fruit and veggies and coffee. Id add more meat or protien bases foods. And calicum/ dairy
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    i have no problem taking advice people give me , also my bmi is within the health range its 21 . Its just rude when people just post go see a doctor and dont offer any more advice. I'd like to educate myself on what im doing wrong and work to make things better for a more successful me. sorry if i'm getting snippy but you have to understand how this is frustrating for me

    A medical professional would be the best place to even get advice. You would be educating yourself and taking your health into your own hands.

    To put it bluntly, you are harming yourself by eating so little. The body needs calories to SURVIVE! Most people will burn over 1200 calories even if they just laid around in bed. Their normal bodily functions burn at least that mush daily. So, by eating so few calories, you are not giving your body the energy needed to keep your heart beating, digest food, or let your kidneys work. As such, you could cause serious damage to multiple bodily systems that could be long term... or even fatal if you are that unlucky.
  • ReddRidingHood
    ReddRidingHood Posts: 13 Member
    Stop worrying about what the scale says. By your picture you've already got a great shape to work with. I would suggest measurements instead. As far as eating goes you can still get decent food at Starbucks if that's a place you frequent pretty often (and by your diary, you do ;) There is a turkey bacon and egg white breakfast sandwich that is good and good for you. You are just consuming a lot of empty calories by drinking your meals. I would suggest you aim for 1400-1500 calories a day and add cardio for exercise. You mainly want to tone up, not lose weight. I watched an episode of America's next Top Model where some of the girls couldn't put their back against a wall, slide down to a squat, and come back up. Skinny does not mean fit.
  • maddmaddie
    maddmaddie Posts: 160 Member
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    Both of these people in the photos have the same body fat percentage.

    Do you just want to get "skinny", or do you want to get in "shape"...the number on the scale can only take you so far, you should incorporate weight lifting into your exercise routine.

    Your metabolism is based off your body mass, the more healthy body mass you have (muscle) the higher your metabolism will be. Eating about 500 calories a day will force your body to not only eat away fat but muscle too...and if you continue with that kind of lifestyle, your body will start deteriorating other types of muscle, such as your heart! That's how some people can end up with a heart attack and die, even though they are "thin". That is why 500 every single day is not healthy....what I would do is eat 1200 calories a day, then have 2 days a week where you eat 500 a day...its a program called Eat Stop Eat. It incorporates fasting + low calorie days and high calorie days.....but you can't eat 500 every day because over time, it can lead to your death of course.

    My advice, eat nutrient dense foods at least 1200 a day (and 500 calorie days twice a week) and incorporate weight lifting to get you the shape that you want. Sexy curves. :)

    I recommend the book Eat Stop Eat, or you could watch alot of the author's youtube videos (brand pilon) which he explains how alot of stuff works on there.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/bradpilon?feature=g-user-u
  • healthyskinnystrong
    healthyskinnystrong Posts: 22
    okay i understand but if i now up my calorie intake wont i gain weigh not loose?
    At first, yes you might gain weight, but that's because your metabolism has probably lowered due to the low calorie intake. If you slowly up your calories your metabolism will hopefully go up with it and then you'll start to lose weight with a higher calorie intake c: x
  • sofielein
    sofielein Posts: 539 Member
    agreed, you may gain a bit FIRST, but isn't the ultimate goal to find a way for you to get down to xxx lb and then be able to maintain than?

    what you are doing now is not the way there... take it slower, it will be a lot more steady, much more reliable for you (in a "night out won't spoil anything" way), and that will definitely work. just don't expect immediate changes. give yourself time until summer - this is not a contest.
  • aippolito1
    aippolito1 Posts: 4,894 Member
    More protein. More real food. Less sugar and make sure you're getting the right entries when you log (highly doubt your DD coffee this morning had 9g of protein in it)
  • sandradev1
    sandradev1 Posts: 786 Member
    Nobody is being mean to you. I think that everybody is just amazed that you are able to sit up and type on your computer. You are eating about half of the calories your body needs even to do its basic functions, like keep your heart and other vital organs healthy enough to exist.!!!!

    Reading your diary is actually 'frightening' to us!!!!

    You are heading down a very very dangerous road. PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE eat, eat and then eat some more.

    Looking at your photo, you are already looking 'far too thin'. You should at least be eating at your maintenance calories which is likely to be around 2000 calories a day.

    Already posted, but a good place to start to find out how many calories you should be eatig is:


    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12

    If you do nothing else, read this before you damage your body further.
  • Firefox7275
    Firefox7275 Posts: 2,040 Member
    i have no problem taking advice people give me , also my bmi is within the health range its 21 . Its just rude when people just post go see a doctor and dont offer any more advice. I'd like to educate myself on what im doing wrong and work to make things better for a more successful me. sorry if i'm getting snippy but you have to understand how this is frustrating for me

    Rude or mature and sensible? Maybe some people here understand disordered eating from personal experience? Sometimes telling someone to seek medical help and not giving them unqualified advice is the most responsible thing to do. There are certain issues we should not be self diagnosing or self treating, certainly not with the aid of strangers on a on a forum. People get more snippy, over sensitive, defensive and frustrated when they are malnourished or starving their body it changes your brain chemistry.

    There is a ton of information on healthy eating and balanced diets on every major western government's websites: generally you should be having seven to nine servings of fruit and veg in the full rainbow of colours, three servings of reduced fat dairy a day, oily fish regularly, lean protein and healthy fats (oily fish nuts, seeds, avocado, olives, cocoa) little and often through the day, plenty of fibre and mineral rich foods (wholegrains, nuts, seeds, beans lentils), processed/ sugary/ refined/ junk no more than 10% daily calories, enough overall calories to maintain a healthy weight/ above your basal metabolic rate. Not sure you are meeting a single one of the guidelines which is very worrying.
  • projektai
    projektai Posts: 107 Member
    Okay, I know everyone is saying this to you, but -- you need to eat.

    You need to eat real food. Looking through your diary, it looks like you're mostly eating snacks and drinking lattes. Yeah, you need to eat more. You're eating a dangerously low amount. But you also need to stop eating so much sugar. Sugar isn't going to make you feel full, and it's certainly not good for your body.
    Let's put it this way, you're concerned about looking good, right? Well, if you keep eating the way you do, you're not going to look very good by the time you hit thirty. Skinny or not.
    Take care of your body now, by eating lean meats and vegetables and whole grain foods. With how little you already eat, I'm sure you can still have your latte in the morning if you really want, but you need to eat a whole lot more, honey!

    If you want, friend me. I'm twenty-one and in the process of losing weight. But I don't look at the scale very often. I'm going by sizes in clothes and measurements. By eating at least 1300 calories a day and exercising, I've gone from a size 14 to a 6 since last July.
    Take things slowly, eat healthy foods, and try not to intake so much sugar. Remember, food is good for you. Food is fuel. You just don't have enough right now.
  • jennifermartini
    jennifermartini Posts: 14 Member
    Hello - I can understand the desire to lose quicky - been there done that! The problem is as others have said: you will canabalize muscle (including your heart muscle) for fuel and possibly go into starvation mode. Also, when you do go back to eating "normally" the weight will pack right back on. I know how hard it is to be patient, but in the long run it is so much better to lose it ONE time healthily than SEVERAL times on crash diets. Take care of yourself, Jen
  • absurdic
    absurdic Posts: 62 Member
    The body needs _at least_ 1200 cal to work properly. Right now You're putting your body through starvation mode. If you keep this up your hair will be more frail along with your nails, you might experience skin-problems increasing and you will also sleep either too much or too little.

    Yet the most worrying part is that since you don't eat enough fiber and other nutrients you might be signing up for fun stuff like colon cancer, kidney problems etc. etc. in the long run and you really don't want that now do you?
  • rlinz123
    rlinz123 Posts: 30
    Hi! One of my favorite features of MFP is being able to see what other people are eating and to have folks comment on my own food choices. I read your diary back to the beginning of December, and frankly, some of your days are scary. 200-300 calories a day is not nearly enough for anyone! Heck, that's barely a meal for most people -- it's really just a snack! You don't have much (if any) weight to lose, and if you are truly interested in being healthy, then you should talk with a nutritionist and/or a doctor and/or a therapist to reassess your nutritional goals and eating behaviors. I know you said people shouldn't be mean or rude, but I think that everyone commenting here is expressing their concern. It is alarming to see someone eating so little - it's not safe, and we are worried about you. Please take everyone's advice here seriously.
  • HopefulLeigh
    HopefulLeigh Posts: 363 Member
    okay i understand but if i now up my calorie intake wont i gain weigh not loose?

    Some do initially, but much of it is water, and it will reverse itself. You may not gain. Some of it depends on how long you have been eating this low. But don't let that stop you. Because what you are doing now is unhealthy and even dangerous. No amount of weight loss is worth what you are doing now. Eat more.

    Also, if you are at a point where you really can't bring yourself to eat more, you need to get help now. Please.

    oh my goodness stop telling me to get help. if you dont like my eating habits i understand that but continuously telling me to get help is nothing but annoying i got it the first 3 times thanks!

    You closed off your diary before I had a chance to look at it, so my input is solely based on what I've read here.

    I can tell you that if the fine folks in this thread are saying "get help" and leaving it at that, it is because they are very worried about you. Some comments here have stated that your intake is only 200-900 calories a day. That's pretty scary. You're eating roughly the same amount of calories as a concentration camp ration during the Holocaust. My suggestion is that you go to a doctor and explain to them how much you've been eating and for how long. They will find a way to healthily increase your intake. If you have been eating like this for months, I'm going to strongly suggest that you go to a doctor BEFORE increasing your intake. Immediately following the liberation of the concentration camps in Germany, many of the children died due to overindulgence of food given to them by the GIs because their bodies could not process it.

    This is why everyone is saying see a doctor, get help. We're genuinely worried about you.
  • nicleed
    nicleed Posts: 247 Member
    I did see your diary before you closed it but didn't have it in me to respond. As the parent of a small girl, it scared me ****less! And the fact you have closed it scares me even more.

    Please, think of the people who love you.

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