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here's the story.
over the holidays, i DIDNT track, i DIDNT exercise and i ate everything i wanted. including fast food, chocolate, and lots of alcohol. i was probably eating over 2000 cals a day. or more with alcohol
i lost 4lbs over the holidays.
so i'm thinking great. a jump start to my diet/lifestyle change.
so this is the end of week 1 and i've exercised 15-30 mins on the treadmill almost every day. i cut my calories to 1700. i didn't cheat once, i added more fruits and veggies. i was always about 50cals UNDER my calorie goal.
so yesterday i did my first weekly weigh in. i gained a pound.
whatever.
i went 100cals over my goal last night and weighed myself this morning. i gained another 2lbs over night.
so i'm ALMOST back where i started. this makes no sense to me.
no i'm not getting my period for another 5 days and no, i don't think it's muscle. there's no way i'm gaining muscle already from 30 mins cardio only.
i see posts here from everyone saying "ohhh i lost 4lbs in the first and second week and it stopped!"
yeah... i can't even lose 2 lbs in the first week. i managed to gain 3 >:(
edit:
i'm 22 year old girl
205lbs (now)
i'm 5'6
my bmr is 1790
i wanna lose 60lbs
over the holidays, i DIDNT track, i DIDNT exercise and i ate everything i wanted. including fast food, chocolate, and lots of alcohol. i was probably eating over 2000 cals a day. or more with alcohol
i lost 4lbs over the holidays.
so i'm thinking great. a jump start to my diet/lifestyle change.
so this is the end of week 1 and i've exercised 15-30 mins on the treadmill almost every day. i cut my calories to 1700. i didn't cheat once, i added more fruits and veggies. i was always about 50cals UNDER my calorie goal.
so yesterday i did my first weekly weigh in. i gained a pound.
whatever.
i went 100cals over my goal last night and weighed myself this morning. i gained another 2lbs over night.
so i'm ALMOST back where i started. this makes no sense to me.
no i'm not getting my period for another 5 days and no, i don't think it's muscle. there's no way i'm gaining muscle already from 30 mins cardio only.
i see posts here from everyone saying "ohhh i lost 4lbs in the first and second week and it stopped!"
yeah... i can't even lose 2 lbs in the first week. i managed to gain 3 >:(
edit:
i'm 22 year old girl
205lbs (now)
i'm 5'6
my bmr is 1790
i wanna lose 60lbs
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It has a lot to do with how much water you drink. The weight you gained could just be water weight!! Don't give up! Don't let one day ruin your confidence and progress.0
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Agreed! It may just be water weight, don't stress it! Just continue to keep your diet healthy and continue to exercise. You will drop those 3 pounds in no time.0
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Hang in there! It must be frustrating but you can't give up. I am going to weigh in next week and i dread it.lol You should check your scale to make sure it is correct. Does it need new batteries if its a digital?0
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^^ this. Water. I drank 10 glasses last night (without realising) and I lost two pound....won't happen every time but water seems to help me lose it more.
I put on 3lbs overnight once because I binged the night before. Don't look at the scale if you have eaten too much the day before because it may be disheartening.
Feel free to add me. I'm 21 and 5'6" too0 -
What i am learning from MFP is that you need to be in it for the long haul. Our bodies can do different things when they will. People who have stuck within their calorie intake, and taken regular exercise are the people who then get to post fabulous pics on this site. Its about making lots of the right decisions, eating less and moving more. Dont give up, hang in there. Its good you enjoyed the holidays, and good your working hard now. The scales will catch up, dont worry0
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It's water weight.. weight loss isn't linear nor should it be tracked like that. You wan to see the trend over a month or several months. Just keep eating between your BMR and TDEE and it will come off.0
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HI,
More than likely it is water retention. Restarting workouts can cause water retention in muscles as they adjust to the new activity level.
How is your sodium intake? Salty foods cause water retention too. Need to drink a lot of water to flush it out.
Have you taken a dump lately? What you eat and drink has weight - if you are not "regular" then you weight will fluctuate.
You are eating less than your BMR - ideally you should be eating more than your BMR ( what you need to stay alive in a coma) and less than you TDEE( total daily energy expenditure or BMR + all your activity burn). Try taking a 20% cut from your TDEE.
Remember you already showed that you can lose at a higher calorie intake when you lost over the holidays - no need to cut back to below your BMR.
Check out this link - plenty of good info
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-120 -
here's the story.
over the holidays, i DIDNT track, i DIDNT exercise and i ate everything i wanted. including fast food, chocolate, and lots of alcohol. i was probably eating over 2000 cals a day. or more with alcohol
i lost 4lbs over the holidays.
so i'm thinking great. a jump start to my diet/lifestyle change.
so this is the end of week 1 and i've exercised 15-30 mins on the treadmill almost every day. i cut my calories to 1700. i didn't cheat once, i added more fruits and veggies. i was always about 50cals UNDER my calorie goal.
so yesterday i did my first weekly weigh in. i gained a pound.
whatever.
i went 100cals over my goal last night and weighed myself this morning. i gained another 2lbs over night.
so i'm ALMOST back where i started. this makes no sense to me.
no i'm not getting my period for another 5 days and no, i don't think it's muscle. there's no way i'm gaining muscle already from 30 mins cardio only.
i see posts here from everyone saying "ohhh i lost 4lbs in the first and second week and it stopped!"
yeah... i can't even lose 2 lbs in the first week. i managed to gain 3 >:(
edit:
i'm 22 year old girl
205lbs (now)
i'm 5'6
my bmr is 1790
i wanna lose 60lbs
Give it time...it took me 3 months to lose my first 7 lbs...and the last 4 months I have only lost like 1 lbs a month despite being under my calorie goal 90% of the time. On top of that, I started taking a supplement designed to help me lose fat...and have *gained* like 3 pounds in 10 days :sad:
Besides, as important as the scale is, the way your clothes fit is MORE important. Because I have stuck with the gym, and I am lifting weights, I am wearing clothes that I wore when I was 25-30lbs lighter!0 -
You didn't gain 3 lbs of fat. You definitely didn't gain 2 lbs of fat overnight. (Also, remember 100 cals over your goal is still below your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure). Keep doing what you're doing (you could probably even eat a little more) and you will see it come off again.
Don't stress out over scale fluctuations. You retain water when you eat more carbs, or when you eat more sodium, or when you start a new exercise programme, or when you increase exercise intensity, or when your hormones decide you should. You also gain more scale weight depending on how much food/waste is in your system. Embrace the fluctuations! :flowerforyou:0 -
thanks everyone for the quick replies. it's just frustrating.
i'm gonna keep trying. i really wanna succeed this time.0 -
You will succeed. If you've been tracking your calories properly and exercising well then it is IMPOSSIBLE that you put on real weight. It will be water weight, salt retention, PMS (period due in 5 days means this is v likely) etc etc etc but it is not real weight I.e fat. Hang in there xx0
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I am using myfitnesspal for tracking. I started the Shred Diet that was on Dr. Oz and I am extremely suprised at the results. I've been fighting the battle to loose these last 20 lbs and the scale is actually moving down in just the first week. Check it out at Dr. Ozcom.0
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Two probable reasons:
1) High salt intake..........
2) Hormonal changes due to Periods.........0 -
Keep your water up; somewhere between 64oz (minimum) and 100oz (1/2 body weight x 1 ounce). The scale can be your worst enemy and your best tool. Many will tell you not to weigh yourself every day, as the body will fluctuate for various reasons. Personally, I am fascinated by what goes on and have to weigh in daily. With that said, I began tracking my weight on Woman Log (an iphone app), for those daily variations (you can also track your TOM). And I only log on MFP when it drops below what I have recorded here. I'm just beginning to notice patterns of when I go up, and when I go down around certain events, etc.
Hang in there! You will win the battle!0 -
I always step on my scale 3 or 4 times when I weigh myself and my weight always fluctuates by a couple of lbs. I don't know why, but it never occurred to me to change the batteries. Thanks for the tip!0
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I gained too. I know I didn't eat that much above my BMR, so it's gotta be at least some water weight. I tried to stay pretty active over the holidays too.0
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could it be that you were eating around 2000 calories over the holidays so your body had to work harder to burn those extra calories it wasn't used to getting, and now you've dropped back down it's holding on to food which it normally wouldn't? maybe set yourself a day where you eat around 2000 and then keep it around 1700 the rest of the week. just keeps your body and metabolism guessing and going!0
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here's the story.
no i'm not getting my period for another 5 days and no, i don't think it's muscle. there's no way i'm gaining muscle already from 30 mins cardio only.
I find that the week (or two) before my period is due, I put on between 2-6pounds /1-3kg. I put it down to the hormonal fluctuations that are in action causing PMT - fluid retention along with the tender chesticles, acne, wanting to eat EVERYTHING and feeling bloated. Fun times!0 -
here's the story.
over the holidays, i DIDNT track, i DIDNT exercise and i ate everything i wanted. including fast food, chocolate, and lots of alcohol. i was probably eating over 2000 cals a day. or more with alcohol
i lost 4lbs over the holidays.
so i'm thinking great. a jump start to my diet/lifestyle change.
so this is the end of week 1 and i've exercised 15-30 mins on the treadmill almost every day. i cut my calories to 1700. i didn't cheat once, i added more fruits and veggies. i was always about 50cals UNDER my calorie goal.
so yesterday i did my first weekly weigh in. i gained a pound.
whatever.
i went 100cals over my goal last night and weighed myself this morning. i gained another 2lbs over night.
so i'm ALMOST back where i started. this makes no sense to me.
no i'm not getting my period for another 5 days and no, i don't think it's muscle. there's no way i'm gaining muscle already from 30 mins cardio only.
i see posts here from everyone saying "ohhh i lost 4lbs in the first and second week and it stopped!"
yeah... i can't even lose 2 lbs in the first week. i managed to gain 3 >:(
edit:
i'm 22 year old girl
205lbs (now)
i'm 5'6
my bmr is 1790
i wanna lose 60lbs
What you're seeing is almost certainly fluctuations in water weight. Changes in diet and exercise habits can definitely cause some shifts in fluid balance due to a variety of hormonal reasons. Seriously, don't worry about it, and start tracking weight once your weight seems to have "stabilized" after this adjustment period (say a week or two).0 -
gaining or losing 2 Lbs over night is water, plain and simple. One pound of actual fat is 3,500 calories...so you would have to go over your maintenance TDEE by 7,000 calories in a single day to put on 2 Lbs of actual fat. To put it in perspective...my maintenance TDEE is right around 2,500 calories. To gain 2 Lbs over night I would have to consume 9,500 calories in one day...I promise you I'd never get that far...I'd be puking my guts out before I came even close to that.
It's water...it's pretty much impossible to gain or lose even a pound over night.0 -
thanks everyone for the quick replies. it's just frustrating.
i'm gonna keep trying. i really wanna succeed this time.
Weight loss is simply this:
Calorie deficit
Exercise for help with deficit and body composition (lifting heavy really helps you look the way you want)
And the most important and most difficult part of it all is simply...wait. Be patient and it will happen.0 -
At any point did you measure yourself?
Remember - the scale can fluctuate..a lot. Water weight and muscle gain makes it not a very accurate way to tell if you are losing.0 -
here's the story.
no i'm not getting my period for another 5 days and no, i don't think it's muscle. there's no way i'm gaining muscle already from 30 mins cardio only.
I find that the week (or two) before my period is due, I put on between 2-6pounds /1-3kg. I put it down to the hormonal fluctuations that are in action causing PMT - fluid retention along with the tender chesticles, acne, wanting to eat EVERYTHING and feeling bloated. Fun times!
During my pmsing stage I blow up like verunica salt in Charlie and the chocolate factory, after my second day of my period I deflate. I feel like a human blueberry for about a week and a half to two weeks a month.0 -
You are allowed to have a holiday. It is hard on hols but my rule is that if it is only a week, then do what you like. If it is a fortnight then you need to do exercise and cut out starters or pudds. If it is a longer hol then you need to only have bit of the good stuff but log the rest of at least watch the portion controls because you get into bad habits.
Try a big pot of no fat soup in the fridge and use that to kick start your diet.0 -
It's goign to take time to adjust. That's what I think. Maybe during the holidays you were eating enough for your body and with you cutting back, it's making thiings worse adn your body can't survive.
I tired finding the link. Was an MPF post, but here's the story
Living With Obesity At 700 Calories Per Day!
By: David Greenwalt
I want you to consider a common female client. She's a woman about 5'5" and 185 pounds. A combination of a mostly sedentary lifestyle, quick-fix, processed foods and consistent excessively low calories has resulted in an incredibly stubborn fat loss scenario. Not only has it created a stubborn fat loss scenario but her ability to add body fat is remarkably strong.
Most would believe there is simply no possible way she could be 185 pounds eating mostly low calories. While it's true the average obese American created their own obesity by being a huge over consumer, a sedentary glutton if you will, many are able to maintain their level of obesity with the following formula in very precise ratios: starvation + binges + sedentary lifestyle.
An initial review of this woman's calories indicates she is just above starvation level in the 400-700 per day range. The food choices are mostly protein in this case (low-carb is all the rage you know) and there are virtually no vegetables or fruits to speak of.
Five or six days per week the calories remain low in this range, however, there are nighttime binges from time to time and weekend binges where carbs loaded with fat (doughnuts, rolls, cookies, pizza etc.) are consumed.
So while the calories are very low the majority of the time, there are one to two days per week where this isn't always the case. Even so, the nighttime binges and weekend slack offs don't amount to what you might presume would be thousands of extra calories, thus explaining the 185-pound body weight.
Very few foods are prepared from home. There are lots of fast foods being consumed. Convenience and taste rule.
I must say. Early on in my coaching and teaching career this woman was a real head scratcher for me. Isn't it calories in and calories out? Even if she's not active she's starving!
How in the heck does she stay at 185 eating an average, including all binges, of maybe 750 calories per day? She's frustrated beyond belief. She sees her friends and coworkers eating more and weighing less. Is she simply unlucky? Is everyone else blessed? And what in the world is she supposed to do to fix this, if it can be fixed?
Why Is She Not Losing Weight?
First, let me tell you why she's not losing weight. Then I'll tell you what she has to do to fix the situation. With a chronic (months and months) intake of less than 1000 calories per day and a 185-pound body weight her metabolism is suffering greatly. It's running cool, not hot. It's basically running at a snail's pace.
Think of it this way. Her metabolism has matched itself to her intake. She could, indeed, lose body fat but she's in that gray area where she is eating too few calories but not quite at the concentration-camp level yet.
If she were to consume 100-300 calories per day her body would have virtually no choice but to begin liberating stored body fat. This is NOT the solution. It's unhealthy and, in fact, quite stupid.
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Not only has her metabolism matched her intake, her body has maximized production of enzymes that are designed to help store any additional calories as fat. Anytime additional, immediately-unnecessary calories are consumed the enzymes are there and waiting to store the additional calories as fat. Her body is starved nutritionally and it has one thing on its mind - survival.
Being mostly sedentary, her metabolism (hormones play a large role here) can do a pretty good job of keeping things slow enough so that the pathetically low calories she's consuming are just enough to maintain.
But since certain enzymes are elevated, waiting for more calories so more bodyfat can be stored, every nighttime binge or weekend mini-feast will contribute to fat stores.
So on the days she's not bingeing her body does not lose fat, or if it does, it's very little. And on the few days or times she does binge a bit her body is quite efficient at storing fat. So, while she may lose a smidge of fat from starving it is quickly replaced with every binge.
Remember, these binges aren't a gluttonous 4000-calorie feast. Oh no, a binge might be 4-5 cookies worth about 500-700 calories. Nevertheless, since the binge foods are mostly carbs and fat it's very easy for the enzymes to shuttle the dietary fat into stored body fat. It's what they were designed to do.
So, What's The Solution?
Well then, now that we presumably know some valid reasons why she's not seeing a scale change and definitely no body fat change how do we fix her? We have to do something she's going to freak out over.
We have to get her eating more. Not only do we have to get her eating more but more of the right, whole foods need to be eaten. Foods lower in fat that aren't as easily STORED as body fat have to be consumed. And we have to warn her.
A Discouraging Start
We have to warn her that since she's been sedentarily living on protein with binges of carbs and fats she is likely to see a weight gain right away. It's true.
Once we begin really feeding her body with nutritious carbohydrates so she can become more active, her glycogen-depleted body will hang on to some of those carbohydrates (in skeletal muscle and liver) so she has stored energy for activity.
When her body hangs on to those carbohydrates it has no choice but to hang on to more water too. For every gram of glycogen (stored carbs) she stores she'll hang on to three grams of water.
This is not a negative response by the body but it will be interpreted by her as quite negative when she steps on the scale.
It's quite likely she'll see a five to seven pound weight gain when she really starts eating properly again. This weight gain will remain for one to three weeks before it starts moving in the other direction.
For argument's sake let's assume my Calorie Calculator and Goal Setter at Club Lifestyle suggests a 1500-calorie per day average in week one for a one-pound loss per week. First, she is going to freak out about this many calories.
For months she's been eating less than 1000 and usually around 400-700 in one to three feedings total per day. To her 1500 calories is a ton of food. And if she even begins to eat less fast and packaged-foods it will be a ton of food.
There is no doubt whatsoever that she will resist the increase. This resistance may take one to three weeks to overcome. During this period no weight loss will occur. She is too fat already in her mind and believes it will only hurt her to increase her food intake.
I mean, after all, isn't that how she got fat to begin with? In her early stages of fat gain this was probably true. She overconsumed. But as I've said already, that's not why she's staying heavy.
In addition to a freaked-out mindset about adding more food to her already overfat body she will simply find that it's all but impossible to eat four or more times per day.
She's just not hungry at first. Makes sense when you think about it. Why would she be hungry three hours after eating a 300-calorie, balanced breakfast? Her body is used to 400-700 calories per day!
So, even though she gets a plan and begins using my nutrition analyzer to log foods and meals she finds after having a balanced breakfast of 250 calories she couldn't force herself to eat meal number two on time.
It'll take several more days of realizing what is going on and being one-hundred percent honest and diligent with her logging and planning before she begins to eat her meals as planned no matter what - even if she's not hungry.
By now two to four weeks have passed and the only thing she's seen on the scale is it going up--not very encouraging if I say so myself.
Raising The Grade
After the first two to four weeks have passed she's probably beginning to consume her meals as planned although not quite like an "A" student yet. That is coming. She feels better because she's working out and is more active.
And she feels like she has more energy throughout the day because she's feeding her body more calories and the right kinds of calories.
She has finally begun eating the right kinds of fast foods (low in fat, moderate in protein) and less packaged food overall. She is making more meals from home and taking them to work for lunch rather than always grabbing something quick from a vending machine or the break room that always has some treat another employee brought in.
After another two weeks or so she's moved from a "B" grade to more consistent "A"s. She's planning her days one day ahead in the Nutrition Analyzer; she's consuming fresh veggies and fruits on a daily basis.
Her calories are almost ALWAYS in line with what is recommended by my Lean Account and she has seen her first signs of the scale moving in the right direction.
She is now dropping from 190 pounds (her high after reintroducing food and carbohydrates again) to 189.3! "Progress at last!" she says. In actuality, the entire process was progress. But that's not how she saw it in the beginning.
With a total of two to four weeks of increased caloric intake behind her and eating more consistently the right kinds of foods her metabolism has truly begun to rebound.
She didn't kill it as she thought. She only wounded it. And since our metabolisms are like kids (they are quite resilient) and she doesn't have thyroid issues or diabetes or any known wrench that could be thrown into the spokes of fat loss, she will begin, for the first time in months or years, to see results that make sense and that one would expect of someone who is active (30-60 minutes five or more days per week) and consuming a caloric intake of 1300-1500 calories per day.
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Avoiding Sabotage
This process is in no way easy. I think you can see a plethora of ways it could be screwed up, sabotaged, given up on too early and so forth.
A key to success for this very common woman (men too) is not giving up too soon, having faith in the fix, and moving sooner rather than later to the increased, quality food intake.
It's going to take effort to overcome the mental hurdles of eating more food as well as the increase in scale weight that is going to occur in weeks one to three or so. It's disheartening, however, to charge hard down the weight-loss field only to get to the one-yard line and decide it's time to quit.
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Many don't realize they only had one more yard to go and they'd have had a touchdown. You gotta hang in there with this plan. It's going to take some time for the glycogen levels to be replenished and level out. It's going to take some time for mental adjustments to occur.
It's going to take some time before hunger signals are restored to anything close to normal. It's going to take time for the metabolism to rebound and not be in its protective mode.
Giving A Stubborn Body The Message
In certain, very stubborn cases, it may be necessary to eat at a eucaloric (maintenance) or hypercaloric (over maintenance) level for a few weeks to ensure the metabolism does get the signal that everything is alright and you aren't going to kill the body.
Remember, your body could care less about your desire for fat loss. It just wants to survive.
Some Take-Home Points
The most common cause of obesity is Americans are sedentary overeaters/drinkers. Nothing in this article should be construed as to say that under eating is the root cause of obesity. It's not.
It IS common for many men and women to be under eating with sporadic binges as I described here. This creates a perfect environment for continued obesity even if total caloric intake is quite low on average.
Low-carb followers or "starvers" WILL see the scale go up when calories are consumed at reasonable levels again and carbohydrates are reintroduced. Live with it. Deal with it. It's going to happen. 98% of the gain will be water.
The time it takes for mental acceptance and other adjustments to occur will vary but one should expect a two to four week window for these things to take place. Being forewarned with an article like this may speed this process up some.
Once the right types of foods are consumed and the right caloric intake is consumed and the right ratios of carbohydrates, proteins and fats are consumed on a consistent basis, then, and only then, will metabolism begin to be restored and the key to fat loss be inserted into the lock with a noticeable drop in the scale resulting.
This may take an additional two to four weeks to occur. Your metabolism is never dead or broken for good. But it may take several weeks of proper eating and activity for it to be restored.
From day one, until the first, noticeable drop in the scale occurs may be four to six weeks--maybe one to two weeks longer. Those who give up on the one-yard line will never see the scale drop as will occur when intelligent persistence and consistency over time are adhered to.
David Greenwalt0 -
It's water...it's pretty much impossible to gain or lose even a pound over night.
This exactly.0 -
I wouldn't weigh right before the big P at all. I gain 8 pounds.... wait till after and try again.......0
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My weight fluctuates between 1-3 pounds a day, depending on what I am eating and how much water I am drinking. I notice that if I don't get enough water I see an increase on the scale, and if my sodium intake is high I see my weight go up. When I cut back on the sodium and get more water, I tend to see a decrease. Fluctuations in the scale are very normal, and while I weigh myself daily, I have learned to not let them get to me. Try to focus more on how you are feeling, and how your clothes are fitting you. It was hard for me, but it is totally worth it to focus on those rather than the number on my scale.0
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Look at what types of food you are eating.Are they clean or processed? Drink water.
Your doing great0 -
you were all correct!
i lost the 3lbs already so it definitely was water weight.
thanks everyone for the support. like i said, i'm not giving up.0
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