I want to add a Vegan day to my current diet.

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  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member

    Not really interested in the "why do you need so much protein?" debate. It just starts arguments. Just looking for suggestions of how to achieve my desired protein intake from a vegan diet :)

    though this is why I suggest grabbing "Thrive" - dude is a top tier athlete and created a vegan plan for other athletes. at least check it out. could be massively beneficial.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    honestly... no one needs as much protein for muscle growth as they think they do.

    vegan bodybuilders exist. you really don't need more evidence than that.
    The majority of which are assisted by AAS, so can better synthesise smaller protein intakes. Many others were non-vegan and made the switch having already built substantial amounts of muscle.
  • freckles_cmj
    freckles_cmj Posts: 205 Member
    Ask a gorilla. they are vegan and sure as heck have a lot of lean muscle mass, and are pretty closely related to us humans. I doubt they get that much protein however.

    The link I posted was all about vegan body building and they listed several diet plans...I didnt look at them all but it sure sounds like it could answer your question. I just dont think you should be so hung up on the protein....if your body has plenty of good quality carbs from good sources to burn for fuel, then all the protein goes to muscle development and repair, not being burned for fuel which is our bodies last resort after it burns the carbs and fats.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    honestly... no one needs as much protein for muscle growth as they think they do.

    vegan bodybuilders exist. you really don't need more evidence than that.
    The majority of which are assisted by AAS, so can better synthesise smaller protein intakes. Many others were non-vegan and made the switch having already built substantial amounts of muscle.

    maybe, but a majority doesn't mean all. :)

    hey if you wanna stick with the protein intake you're comfortable with, that's fine. just know it's going to be incredibly hard to reach those levels eating a vegan diet, and if that's something you're interested in learning about, you may need to expand your mind a little bit in regard to protein intake. wish you the best though, i'm doing the same thing right now - testing the waters of veganism. Managed 3,200 calories of it yesterday with about 170g protein. So it's totally doable.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    honestly... no one needs as much protein for muscle growth as they think they do.

    vegan bodybuilders exist. you really don't need more evidence than that.
    The majority of which are assisted by AAS, so can better synthesise smaller protein intakes. Many others were non-vegan and made the switch having already built substantial amounts of muscle.

    maybe, but a majority doesn't mean all. :)

    hey if you wanna stick with the protein intake you're comfortable with, that's fine. just know it's going to be incredibly hard to reach those levels eating a vegan diet, and if that's something you're interested in learning about, you may need to expand your mind a little bit in regard to protein intake. wish you the best though, i'm doing the same thing right now - testing the waters of veganism. Managed 3,200 calories of it yesterday with about 170g protein. So it's totally doable.
    I'm always open minded, but my 200g a day has given me the best results. Best of luck to you too :)
  • AEFidgets
    AEFidgets Posts: 243
    Ask a gorilla. they are vegan and sure as heck have a lot of lean muscle mass, and are pretty closely related to us humans. I doubt they get that much protein however.

    The link I posted was all about vegan body building and they listed several diet plans...I didnt look at them all but it sure sounds like it could answer your question. I just dont think you should be so hung up on the protein....if your body has plenty of good quality carbs from good sources to burn for fuel, then all the protein goes to muscle development and repair, not being burned for fuel which is our bodies last resort after it burns the carbs and fats.

    Actually gorillas are not vegan. Unless termites and other insects are made from tofu. Or perhaps the occasional birds egg. Gorillas are omnivores just like humans, chimps and monkeys.
    I think you can get adequate amounts of protein as a vegan but avoiding soy makes it even more difficult. Personaly I'll stick to eating the tasty critters.
  • belgerian
    belgerian Posts: 1,059 Member
    How about fage greek yougurt? I know it is made from milk but is that appropiate for vegan diet some say yes some say no?. It is Gluten Free? I myself do not consider my self Vegan but I really only eat meat a couple times a month.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    How about fage greek yougurt? I know it is made from milk but is that appropiate for vegan diet some say yes some say no. It is Gluten Free?

    milk is not a part of a vegan diet. there's no "some say yes" about it. if you say yes you're not vegan. :)
  • belgerian
    belgerian Posts: 1,059 Member
    How about fage greek yougurt? I know it is made from milk but is that appropiate for vegan diet some say yes some say no. It is Gluten Free?

    milk is not a part of a vegan diet. there's no "some say yes" about it. if you say yes you're not vegan. :)

    Well that answer my question. Thanks
  • FredDoyle
    FredDoyle Posts: 2,273 Member
    The one study posted above (although a subject count of 10) about males 55-77 is interesting. It seems to conclude that the RDA of .8g/kg/day was inadequate to maintain LBM in that age group. This leads to a catch 22 situation for us older gents as a reduced RDA for protein is suggested for maintaining kidney health.
    Sorry to hijack. I'm an omni anyway. I've eaten most critters that I've come across.
  • freckles_cmj
    freckles_cmj Posts: 205 Member
    Ask a gorilla. they are vegan and sure as heck have a lot of lean muscle mass, and are pretty closely related to us humans. I doubt they get that much protein however.

    The link I posted was all about vegan body building and they listed several diet plans...I didnt look at them all but it sure sounds like it could answer your question. I just dont think you should be so hung up on the protein....if your body has plenty of good quality carbs from good sources to burn for fuel, then all the protein goes to muscle development and repair, not being burned for fuel which is our bodies last resort after it burns the carbs and fats.

    Actually gorillas are not vegan. Unless termites and other insects are made from tofu. Or perhaps the occasional birds egg. Gorillas are omnivores just like humans, chimps and monkeys.
    I think you can get adequate amounts of protein as a vegan but avoiding soy makes it even more difficult. Personaly I'll stick to eating the tasty critters.

    about 3% of a gorillas diet is insects, mostly termites. I dont know many omnivores that consume 3% animal products.
    and if its so tasty..eat it just boiled without any seasoning or cooking method that bowns it adding flavor.

    Decomposing flesh is not tasty.
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    Are insects vegan?

    You could convince me to eat escamole. Other things, not so much.