Need Opinions On Something Doctor Said
AniyahsMommy324
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On Friday I called my doctor and told him I've been having trouble losing weight. I told him I've been watching what I eat, counting calories, and exercising at least a couple times a week but haven't really been having any results other than gaining and losing the same 5lbs. I asked him what he thinks I should do different or change. He recommend me to a doctor's office that specializes in surgical weight loss procedures. But they do have one doctor that helps from a non-surgical standpoint. My question is should I do what my doctor said and make an appointment with this other office or should I keep doing what I'm doing but up my exercise?
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I'd go to at least see what they have to offer. Good luck!0
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I agree. I'd at least go and see what a specialist has to say.0
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Please tell us a little about your goals, diet, workout and how much disclipline you do or do not have?
I'm always against surgery, but sometimes I think it can be a good thing. Unfortunately, people do it and since they don't have discipline and the right mindset...they're back to where they were they started. I say put forth 150% first, then if that doesn't work out you can consider giving your money away to a doctor
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There's no harm in talking to the non-surgical doctor. He may have some suggestions. You may need to change up your diet, eating a bit more and change up your exercise.0
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I go but if you really don't want surgery then let them know.
it does not hurt to talk to someone who know what they are talk about.0 -
Start with a nutritionist before you talk about any kind of surgery, pills, etc.0
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I think that before going the surgery route I would SERIOUSLY recheck my diet and exercise. The smallest things that you don't count can add up a LOT. And alcohol too. I would maybe even invest in a food scale (I LOVE mine and use it for EVERYTHING). Try cutting out eating out for 2 weeks and seriously measuring and weighing everything you put into your mouth and see if you still have the same problem.0
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I would definitely see a doctor, but I am not sure I would see one at a surgical weight loss center. If you are truly counting your calories accurately, eating the right types of food, getting plenty of water, rest & exercise- you may need to see if you have some sort of underlying medical condition.0
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Why don't you just get real serious about losing weight the right way -- eating less ( a LOT less) and moving a lot more (a LOT more). Trouble now is that you think you are eating a small amount and being active enough... but you are fooling yourself. I did that too. Just use MFP and stick with it. Be honest about what you eat and how much you eat. Be honest about your activity. If you come in UNDER your daily calorie goal by 400-500 calories each day, you will lose weight. Just get a few friends and support each other. Lot cheaper and safer than surgery. Of course a doctor who does weight loss surgery is going to tell you that surgery is the solution -- as they say, when you have a hammer in your hand, everything looks like a nail! Best wishes!0
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I have been overweight all my life. I went to a dr that referred me to an office for weight loss surgery. I went and listened to the pros and cons of the options. I choose to go to a dr to do medical weight loss without surgery. Along with that they have a psychologist that I will start seeing to help me deal with emotional eating. I feel that if I can't discipline myself to do it on my own now, I probably won't discipline myself to stay on the regismen after the weight loss surgery.0
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You told the doc all the things you are doing and they sound right on the money. You asked his opinon and he gave it to you. SO I would go and see what this program is all about. You don't have to go through with any of it if its not something you are into. What can it hurt? If you don't respond to weight loss like the usual person maybe you need something a little more specific.
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My doctor is pushing surgery on me too, but I really don't want it. So many things could go wrong. I convinced him to let me try losing weight the regular way this year.0
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If it's a non surgical intervention of some sort, I'd definitely go. I've heard good and bad stuff about surgical weight loss interventions. For example, chronic bad breath. But I've never heard anything either way about a non surgical intervention.
Best would be to get all your options on the table and then decide from there.
I've done that with my jaw. The dentists told me one thing way back. The new dentists told me something. The orthodontist told me a 6000 dollar surgery and braces intervention. I finally got tired of wondering what to do so I went directly to the oral surgeon who does jaws. He told me for a millimeter, it wasn't worth potentially having a jaw that gets messed up in surgery. He helped me to get the symptoms under control as well. He really helped me to put it in perspective. Point being, lots of options were out there but in the end, I had to choose who to believe.0 -
I think surgery is a good but last resort option for the morbidly obese. Just remember that after surgery, you will be on a verrry strict 600-800 calorie/day diet for many, many months until your insides heal, then it's a slow introduction to normal eating. Surgery is NOT a quick fix by any means.0
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I am not an advocate of surgery. Having said that, it can't hurt to go and hear what they have to say. I have lost 70 pounds through a lifestyle change which included exercise and calorie management, and understanding to which foods my body reacts negatively. If you want some more specific feedback, you would need to open your diary for others to see.0
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I have been overweight all my life. I went to a dr that referred me to an office for weight loss surgery. I went and listened to the pros and cons of the options. I choose to go to a dr to do medical weight loss without surgery. Along with that they have a psychologist that I will start seeing to help me deal with emotional eating. I feel that if I can't discipline myself to do it on my own now, I probably won't discipline myself to stay on the regismen after the weight loss surgery.
But that is the beauty of the surgery, you HAVE to listen to the new rules your body has set with its new limitations. Less food capasity and no hunger pangs. There are great weight loss strategies with both options.
Original poster, If you want any first hand insite to this weight loss surgery, I would be happy to give you my experience in being the wife of someone who had the surgery almost 9 years ago. Just PM me. I'd be happy to share the happy results in detail with you.0 -
Start with a nutritionist before you talk about any kind of surgery, pills, etc.
^^ I'm with this person. I could never lose weight until I spoke with a nutritionist. No gimicks, no surgery, no magic pills or fancy things that come out of a bottle. Better eating for a better me. Good luck!0 -
I am a doctor....you need to stick to a diet....its really just a matter of finding the number of calories that result in 0 net weight loss or gain and go from there....
Its hard work!!!!!.... but just a matter of how many calories you eat vs how many you burn
if you are not losing weight its simply because you are not operating at a net calories loss
its really that simple!!!
it you want a doctor to give you an easy option, then do surgery
otherwise, speaking as a doctor, we really have no advice to offer other that what you already know (healthy foods, moderate portions, calorie count, exercise, etc...)0 -
Hi ya! I was looking at your profile and I saw your ticker for the weightloss you need to have. I know one thing I'm doing different this time and it seems effective - is breaking my weightloss up into more manageable sections. Grand total I need to lose over 200lbs!! but who wants to think about that? With the ticker weightloss on my profile - it's fun, because it looks like I only have a mere 12.5lbs to hit goal - and I do - my 1st goal that is woohoo. Then I'll cut it to 25lbs at a time to chip away at this blob of person that is me lol. Well it's not me, the real me is trapped somewhere inside haha.
But that's just a suggestion you may want to try - and it couldn't hurt to try the dr's referal - do they have free consultation? I just am pretty stoked that in my 1st week of serious trying - i lost 4lbs - which tells me I only need 12lbs and I'm at goal woohoo. Mind set. Mind over matter kinda thing.
Bah - hope that helps - it's late and I'm sleepy already haha.0 -
Please tell us a little about your goals, diet, workout and how much disclipline you do or do not have?
I'm always against surgery, but sometimes I think it can be a good thing. Unfortunately, people do it and since they don't have discipline and the right mindset...they're back to where they were they started. I say put forth 150% first, then if that doesn't work out you can consider giving your money away to a doctor
I don't feel like I need surgery, not do I want it. I'm 23, 5'6", 225lbs. Before I got pregnant with my oldest daughter (so July of 2010) I was 150. All the weight I gained came from that pregnancy (I did not watch what I ate while I was pregnant with here, and gave in to ALL my cravings
) I want to get back down to 150. Based on my BMR and TDEE I was put at 1540 for calories a day (custom from a website recommended in the Roadmap post). I eat 2 small meals a day and then my dinner is usually around 550 calories. My workouts currently consist of at home DVD's (currently Jillian Michaels), walking outside 1.23 miles a few times a week, and playing outside chasing after my daughter. I also am planning to join a gym hopefully this week, and want to make that a daily habit. As far as discipline, I'm just getting this back and buckling down to see changes. 0 -
I almost went that route. I'm so happy I did not. It takes time, tools and hard work but you can do it
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go! the advice is great and according to your weight, surgery should not be option. good luck!0
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IMO You can do it without surgery. Just be super honest with yourself about if you are logging everything. You can do this if you keep it simple. Eat less, exercise more. You got this! We are all cheering you on!0
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I am a doctor....you need to stick to a diet....its really just a matter of finding the number of calories that result in 0 net weight loss or gain and go from there....
Its hard work!!!!!.... but just a matter of how many calories you eat vs how many you burn
if you are not losing weight its simply because you are not operating at a net calories loss
its really that simple!!!
it you want a doctor to give you an easy option, then do surgery
otherwise, speaking as a doctor, we really have no advice to offer other that what you already know (healthy foods, moderate portions, calorie count, exercise, etc...)
I think this is very good advise. Including that surgery is an easy option. It was easy to lose weight after my husband had the surgery and it has been easy to keep it off. What was not easy was making the desision, going throught the surgery and recovery. My husband tried many things including going to a gym 4 days a week for a whole year and medications that gave him high blood pressure. Yea, I would say it has turned out to be ideal for him. You hear a lot of bad stuff about WLS because its sensational to hear about the things that go wrong. But that is not always fair. He would do this again in a heart beat. It gave him back his life!
I have never heard of this cronic bad breath that someone else mentioned either.
This is a choice only you can make. I don't think this surgery is for everyone, of course but it can be a God send for the right people and the right reasons.
I am losing weight like the doc above has described and I think you can do it too if you make up your mind.
Good luck in your choice. But please don't let the negative comments you hear here about WLS scare you away from even concidering it.
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Well, I think you will need to workout more. That's easier said than done when you have a small child to run around after. When you join the gym you will be alright if you work on your cardio.
Also, I would suggest some more aggressive dvds (workout programs) for when you have to workout at home. Even a serious step aerobic program.
3 meals may not work for you. You may have to shift to 4 or 5 meals a day. You're body could be in "storage mode" and perhaps that's why you aren't seeing the weight loss you desire?
Perhaps you can find a personal trainer who will help with your diet and exercise. That would be my suggestion if money isn't an issue. Sometimes verbal motivation isn't enough. We all need a little "foot to the buttocks" every once in a while.0 -
go! the advice is great and according to your weight, surgery should not be option. good luck!
This post just prompted me to look at your profile. And I agree you don't even qualify for WLS. Your doc must have meant the non-WLS option. Besides, you are soooo young.
(My husband had 150 pounds to loose)
You can do it!!
Best wishes again.0 -
You are very young to go in for something so drastic. Are you morbidly obese? If not, I would run away from advice like that!
From your page, you would seem to weigh over 200 lbs, after having had two babies. I am so sorry that you lost one of your babies. Grief can make us do strange things that over-eat. So you need to heal yourself from one of the most terrible losses any of us might ever have to face.
Focus on being as active as you possible can, with a young child. This is when most of us who were in excellent shape lose it, because we have to slow down to a little child's pace. Look into an aqufit class. Aquafit is great for us big girls because it allows us to move freely in the water without risk of injury. You'll find that exercise is a great cure for depression.
If you need grief counselling make sure you get us. Some burdens are just too heavy to carry alone.
Get good nutritional advice. Set up a good healthy meal plan that covers all the food groups. Cook from scratch as much as you can. And use MFP to track your activity and your calories. The biofeedback really helps.
You can find great nutritional advice here:http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/basics-base/index-eng.php0 -
Just my opinion: my husband is a doctor, and from what I can see, most of them know very little about weight loss. When he has wanted to lose weight, he consults ME, not the other way around. Through this site I found that I really was overestimating how much I was burning through exercise and underestimating how much I was eating. Once I hit 40 (and I know you are much younger), the weight did not come off as easy. So, I just buckled down. You might decrease your net calories to 1300 or 1400, but more important, you need to do higher intensity exercise. That is what did it for me. I don't really lose unless I exercise 7-10 times a week. I thought 30 minutes 3 times a week would do it, but it didn't move the scale or change my body any. Once I increased the intensity and frequency, things moved quickly.
Also, without seeing your diary, I don't know if you eat well for your calories or not, but that made a difference for me, too. I avoid processed stuff, sodas, and simple carbs as much as possible. Even keeping the calories in check wasn't enough on my diet if some of those calories were junk.
I recommend that you don't see even the non-surgical doc unless you have given it 100% for a month. Bust the cardio and dump the junk. If that doesn't move the scale in a month, see the non-surgical doc.
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Please, please, please do not have the surgery - don't even entertain the idea! It's not worth the health complications and the risk of death.
I wouldn't even attend the appointment - I would go see a nutritionist instead, and get a different doctor. It seems most doctors these days are so quick to suggest the surgery (most likely to make $$$?) when there so many better options out there.0 -
I don't feel like I need surgery, not do I want it. I'm 23, 5'6", 225lbs. Before I got pregnant with my oldest daughter (so July of 2010) I was 150. All the weight I gained came from that pregnancy (I did not watch what I ate while I was pregnant with here, and gave in to ALL my cravings ) I want to get back down to 150. Based on my BMR and TDEE I was put at 1540 for calories a day (custom from a website recommended in the Roadmap post). I eat 2 small meals a day and then my dinner is usually around 550 calories. My workouts currently consist of at home DVD's (currently Jillian Michaels), walking outside 1.23 miles a few times a week, and playing outside chasing after my daughter. I also am planning to join a gym hopefully this week, and want to make that a daily habit. As far as discipline, I'm just getting this back and buckling down to see changes.
The obvious solution is to investigate why you are not losing since you don't want surgery and you are feeling determined. Are you weighing and measuring all your food, have you checked the MFP entries you are using are accurate? Have you considered using a pedometer or heart rate monitor to check your activity levels are correct? Can you get your bodyfat tested to be more sure of your BMR? Have you had any blood tests to ensure there is not an underlying problem with your thyroid say?
Not sure if 1.23 miles is a typo, but you should be doing 10,000 steps a day for basic health which is several miles, less than about 6000 is classed as sedentary so maybe increase this - it should help you recover from your formal exercise days. If you join a gym consider studio classes like BodyPump, Spinning, Boxercise or circuit training and work HARD - like someone had a gun to your daughter's head, so you get to the last fifteen minutes are are not completely sure you can go on. That will boost your metabolism for a few hours up to a couple of days. Don't train daily, maybe four times a week or you won't be working at the correct intensity.0
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