Calories for Super Obese

I am 5'6, 434lbs in the sedentary category and desperately need to lose this weight. I've been doing a lot of research and am still confused about how many calories I should be eating. It seems because of my weight, none of the normal rules apply. The first week I always lose 5-7 lbs and then just seem to stall. I've been eating around 1800 calories a day. I saw a nutritionist and she told me that seems about right but she didn't know for my weight . Here are the calculations I've looked at:

MFP
Calories per day 2330 - eat back exercise calories

Fat2FitRadio
Harris Benedict BMR 2670
Katch McArdle 1303
Calories per day 3204 - 30%= 2243 - do not eat back exercise calories

Scooby's Calculator
BMR 2667
TDEE 3200
Calories per day - 2400 - do not eat back exercise calories


I've had my RMR tested which came out to 2064. Any ideas on where I should set my calories? Any other feedback or suggestions are also welcome. Thanks!

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  • jjrichard83
    jjrichard83 Posts: 483 Member
    Any minor change will result in big results. I'd stick with what MFP suggests and don't eat back calories - if you feel sluggish, then eat them back.

    I was 275lbs & 5'11 - It's nothing to lose 20+ lbs in a month when you're obese of minor changes.

    Just remember it's a long process - and after the first few months, I'd slow down weightloss to 8 lbs/month or so to help give skin a chance to adjust. It has not happened to me, but I worry about that!
  • weird_me2
    weird_me2 Posts: 716 Member
    I am 5'6, 434lbs in the sedentary category and desperately need to lose this weight. I've been doing a lot of research and am still confused about how many calories I should be eating. It seems because of my weight, none of the normal rules apply. The first week I always lose 5-7 lbs and then just seem to stall. I've been eating around 1800 calories a day. I saw a nutritionist and she told me that seems about right but she didn't know for my weight . Here are the calculations I've looked at:

    MFP
    Calories per day 2330 - eat back exercise calories

    Fat2FitRadio
    Harris Benedict BMR 2670
    Katch McArdle 1303
    Calories per day 3204 - 30%= 2243 - do not eat back exercise calories

    Scooby's Calculator
    BMR 2667
    TDEE 3200
    Calories per day - 2400 - do not eat back exercise calories


    I've had my RMR tested which came out to 2064. Any ideas on where I should set my calories? Any other feedback or suggestions are also welcome. Thanks!

    Well, if you had your RMR tested at 2064, then your TDEE for sedentary would be approx. 2475. This would be theoretically how much you could eat to maintain your weight if you were sedentary. This might be where you are stalling out at. If you were to eat at your RMR every day and not exercise, you are only creating a deficit of 310 calories, which is about three-quarters of a pound a week, which isn't much when you have a lot to lose. If your RMR is correct, I would aim to eat around 2100 calories per day with no exercise calories and aim to be lightly active and work up to more exercise more regularly. Light activity would give you a TDEE of 2064x1.375 = 2838, which would allow for about 1.5 lbs per week loss, and if you work up to moderate activity, your TDEE would be 2064x1.55 = 3199, which would allow for 2 lbs per week loss.

    ETA: What do you define as a stall? When you lose very quickly, it's usually a lot of water weight and you can often see a rebound gain. If you continue eating the appropriate calories and exercising, you should see the downward trend continuing after a couple of weeks. Of course, if that also happens to coincide with monthly water weight gains, it could take longer. I say monitor every single thing you eat (weigh and measure) and try to accurately track your exercise and see where you are in about 6 weeks. You really have to be vigilant about tracking every single thing, though, because one "bad" meal or day can really be a lot more calories than you would think.
  • AnnS2011
    AnnS2011 Posts: 8 Member
    Just want to say congratulations on getting started!!! I wouldn't get too hung up on the exact calories. Pick something you can stick to and faithfuly track you calories . Most people lose more the first few weeks and then it slows down a d bit and comes in a step wise pattern no matter what program you pick.
  • concordancia
    concordancia Posts: 5,320 Member
    Your ranges are only about 2200-2400 - well within the margin of error for the calorie counts on foods. After all, I don't know about others, but I do not measure my bananas, I just put in a consistent 105 calories.

    Therefore, I also suggest sticking with MFP. Try the first two weeks without eating back your exercise calories and see how you feel.
  • I think it's just trial and error. Give it a few weeks and if you aren't losing or gaining lower your calorie amount. I know it's a pain to to do that waiting game but it should pay off in the long run.
  • bearwith
    bearwith Posts: 525 Member
    Set your goal to however many pounds you want to lose a week. Follow the instructions. After a week re-evaluate. If you have too much, then up your cals by 100 a day. If you have not lost enough then decrease by 200 a day. Keep doing this until you lose a safe amount every day.

    You must see your doctor in case there are safety issues.
  • RhonndaJ
    RhonndaJ Posts: 1,615 Member
    Hiya

    First off let me say that I'm only speaking from personal experience... not medical knowledge.

    I'm 5'6", and was 410 lbs when I started, I was also 49. I started with the calories that MFP set for me, but I wasn't exercising at all. And I found the first 45 lbs came off pretty easily. But once I started to exercise, things changed. Even with eating back exercise calories it was just too hard for me to sustain and to lose a couple hundred you need to be able to sustain.

    In hindsight, I believe I should have been eating higher calories than I was and I would have been able to sustain.

    If I were in your shoes, I'd go with the mid range of the numbers you have and go for 2300, stick with it for four weeks and see how it goes.

    Rhonn
  • lvtruu1
    lvtruu1 Posts: 211 Member
    Without looking it up, I would hazard to guess that you'd drop weight quickly at 3000 calories or more. Find a TDEE calculator and enter your stats.

    Ok, I had to look...

    Your TDEE at sedentary is 3000 calories. Eat at 2500 and lose a pound a week. Work on upping your output.

    The thing to remember is that if you move or take a walk a few times a week, you'll bump up from sedentary fairly easily. At your size, it doesn't take a lot of exercise to burn a lot of calories. Consider a recumbent exercise bike if getting around is a problem.

    http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.php
  • I started out at almost 390, and just set MFP to lose 2lb per week. I also started exercising for 30 minutes a day. I didn't eat back exercise calories unless I was starving. It took me a while to start sorting out the difference between physical and psychological hunger, but once I got that sorted out the weight started falling off. So I would recommend what previous posters have said, start with MFP settings and adjust if needed. I know it's frustrating to stall, but just remember that if you are eating less and moving more, the weight will come off. Just keep at it, you can do it!
  • For the past 3 weeks I've been averaging 1750 calories. I'm wondering if I'm eating too little.