Sugar... How do you do it?

Fat helps transport fat soluble vitamins, increases satiety, fish oils help reduce arterial inflammation, and keep insulin levels down. At 18 most of this won't impact you but for a life long change it is good to take in a decent amount of quality fats.

I'm only on day 2 of a high-fat, high protein diet, and already I can tell I feel significantly different. Of course, because I'm lifting now, I'm hungry as a horse, but seriously, it just feels DAMN good. Also, I don't get sleepy after a healthy fat/protein heavy meal like I would after a carb one. I do my lifting/cardio(ugh... cardio...) fasted, and then eat a fat/protein-heavy breakfast with veggies. I was doing high-carb, high-protein, but high-fat, high-protein feels a LOT better and more satisfying. It's hard to get truly "low carb" when I factor in veggies, though. I eat potatoes because 1) they're filling, 2) they're extremely high in potassium and other excellent nutrients, and 3) I just love them, and I don't plan on stopping, so that's a hit to my carb numbers. They would be lower, but... then I wouldn't be eating potatoes. And I f***ing love potatoes. So... yeah. I know lots of people don't believe in eating white stuff, but I make the exception.

Anyway. You get the point. Fats help with vitamin absorption, as Craigamears said, but also they help with brain function. It's a massive part of why humans have the large brains that we do: We started eating animal protein and fat and eating a LOT of it. And it sped evolution along quite nicely.

at fear of sounding stupid why would i want to exceed fat?

Because dietary fat =\= body fat. Fat is really healthy for you. It provides satiety, improves skin, hair and brain function and a wealth of other benefits as already discussed.

Btw, sugar doesnt make you fat.. calories do. If you arent eating a surplus you aren't gaining fat. It truly is that simple.

at fear of sounding stupid why would i want to exceed fat?

Because dietary fat =\= body fat. Fat is really healthy for you. It provides satiety, improves skin, hair and brain function and a wealth of other benefits as already discussed.

Btw, sugar doesnt make you fat.. calories do. If you arent eating a surplus you aren't gaining fat. It truly is that simple.

Half agree! Fats are essential, after all.. you'll literally die if you don't have them, protein too! But not all dietary fats are good for you in excess! Especially if you're already having problems with weight control. Just like sugar, when abused, fats can lead to weight gain. the problem with fats of course they are more than twice as calorie dense as sugar, 9cal per gram...

let's not forget...to have all the wonderful benefits of fat..one only needs about 30 grams a day...not to mention your body can literally use its own fat to do all those wonderful things.

at fear of sounding stupid why would i want to exceed fat?

Because dietary fat =\= body fat. Fat is really healthy for you. It provides satiety, improves skin, hair and brain function and a wealth of other benefits as already discussed.

Btw, sugar doesnt make you fat.. calories do. If you arent eating a surplus you aren't gaining fat. It truly is that simple.

Half agree! Fats are essential, after all.. you'll literally die if you don't have them, protein too! But not all dietary fats are good for you in excess! Especially if you're already having problems with weight control. Just like sugar, when abused, fats can lead to weight gain. the problem with fats of course they are more than twice as calorie dense as sugar, 9cal per gram...

The only fat to avoid is transfats since a body can not process them. You can limit saturated fats but i havent seen conclusive evidence on that one.

But no matter how much fat you eat, regardless of age, if calories in < calories out, weight loss will occur. Its not to say the other macro nutrients arent important because they are.. but its all about calories for weight loss.

Full Agree I am a great supporter of cal IN cal OUT...I have been for 11 years! We don't have to get into the science. I really hate debating about ghrelin, leptin, GH, and gluconeogenesis to a 17 year old girl trying to lose 5 to get into a bikini. Trans fats arent necessarily bad if you have it in slight moderation. Just like alcohol...just because the body doesnt know what to do with it exactly, doesn't mean it's messing your body up (unless of course you are abusing it).

Good! so it's settled, let's not exceed anything, but eat everything, but just a little bit, or else you may get fat.

I was the same. I thought I would not survive mood swings without sugar. It is the exact opposite, I went cold turkey on fast release carbs. I do not have high and low blood sugar and that means that I stay calm. I do not crave any food and never feel desperately hungry.

Did you know that cereals and bread release glucose into your blood so fast that you may as well eat sugar? Avoid processed cereals. Eat oats, weeetabix with seeds. Dried fruit.

Cut out white flour if possible. Do not drink coffee if you associate it with sugar - switch to tea or herbal.

You give terrible advice ALL the time! Do you really believe all the junk you type out? I'm honestly asking....

at fear of sounding stupid why would i want to exceed fat?

Because dietary fat =\= body fat. Fat is really healthy for you. It provides satiety, improves skin, hair and brain function and a wealth of other benefits as already discussed.

Btw, sugar doesnt make you fat.. calories do. If you arent eating a surplus you aren't gaining fat. It truly is that simple.

Half agree! Fats are essential, after all.. you'll literally die if you don't have them, protein too! But not all dietary fats are good for you in excess! Especially if you're already having problems with weight control. Just like sugar, when abused, fats can lead to weight gain. the problem with fats of course they are more than twice as calorie dense as sugar, 9cal per gram...

The only fat to avoid is transfats since a body can not process them. You can limit saturated fats but i havent seen conclusive evidence on that one.

But no matter how much fat you eat, regardless of age, if calories in < calories out, weight loss will occur. Its not to say the other macro nutrients arent important because they are.. but its all about calories for weight loss.

Full Agree I am a great supporter of cal IN cal OUT...I have been for 11 years! We don't have to get into the science. I really hate debating about ghrelin, leptin, GH, and gluconeogenesis to a 17 year old girl trying to lose 5 to get into a bikini. Trans fats arent necessarily bad if you have it in slight moderation. Just like alcohol...just because the body doesnt know what to do with it exactly, doesn't mean it's messing your body up (unless of course you are abusing it).

Good! so it's settled, let's not exceed anything, but eat everything, but just a little bit, or else you may get fat.

Agreed :drinker:

Wouldn't you like to know, you pervert.

From someone who has been on a low carb diet to a vegan diet, a raw diet, etc, and has lost ninety lbs (in the past. Prior to baby number two) I feel the need to stand up for the 'reject'.

Veggies and fruits are essential and prevent cancer in addition to just being healthy. There is a point with the cereal, bread comment. It's processed. And even fruits can be considered simple carbs (according to my doctor). I try to cut out high sugar fruits but eat things like apples, lemons, avocado, tomato, cucumbers, etc and a whole plethora of veggies. It all depends on what works for you.

I agree that the fat and protein levels should be met if not exceeded when we are talking about healthy fats (avocado, almond) bc they keep you feeling full.

May i ask why you would cut high sugar fruits? Bananas never made anyone or obese. In fact some of the highest sugar fruits contain some of the most critical micronutrients... such as potassium and magnesium, aka your electrolytes.

Fruit sugar doesn't count. I look at added sugar.