Cholesterol Help

I have done a pretty good job at lowering my triglycerides, but my cholesterol is still too high. I need some ideas to lower my cholesterol....any help would be appreciated!
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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,219 Member
    Exercise and weight loss will help with your ratio of HDL/LDL. What does too high mean, HDL should be high.
  • jzammetti
    jzammetti Posts: 1,956 Member
    I agree - stay on your weight loss track and it should fall into normal ranges - unless you are one of those unlucky skinny people with high cholesterol.

    I got mine from 500+ to normal in 70 pounds
  • wwmorrow
    wwmorrow Posts: 118 Member
    Well, last year my cholesterol was 204. This year it was 220 even though I've lost 20+ pounds.
  • I am pretty sure that cholesterol is produced in the liver from the fats we consume, I would say really watching yand lowering your intake on high fat foods would help. We only need a small amount of healthy unsaturated fats a day....I think the major cause is from the saturated and trans fats. Maybe do some research into that! That is what I understand from it.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    TOTAL cholesterol might not be as important as TOTAL LDL and/or the ratio of the two. HDL (the "good" kind") should be as high as most people can get it. 40 at least. LDL (the "bad" kind) should be as low as possible. Preferably under 100. However, some studies are showing it's more about the ratio of TOTAL Cholesterol to "good". With the aim being 3.5:1, but anything better than 5:1 isn't being shown by studies to raise cardiovascular disease risk. To find your ratio, divide your TOTAL cholesterol by your "good" HDL number.

    If you have 220 total and your HDL is 20, then you have a ratio of 11:1. But if your HDL is 55, then you have a ratio of 4:1, which means even though your "bad" cholesterol might be above 100, your ratio is well within the range not shown to increase cardiovascular risk.

    http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/finding-the-ideal-cholesterol-ratio
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cholesterol-ratio/AN01761

    [Edited to fix some H/L typos]
  • 714rah714
    714rah714 Posts: 759 Member
    You can lower your cholesterol by 25% with diet and exercise the other 75% is produced my your body. So if your like me, border line high cholesterol, there is only so much you can do without medication. Which personally I refuse to take but my doctor keeps on insisting/pushing on me.
  • hoosierlad
    hoosierlad Posts: 69 Member
    I agree with below comments, along with possibly a stronger focus on what you eat for meals. You say you lost weight, but I didn't see if it was with exercise or mainly diet. Exercise is must, along with nutritional habits. Certain foods might help lower ...oatmeal, etc. ; might try to incorporate some of these in eating habits if not already doing it.
  • BlackTimber
    BlackTimber Posts: 230 Member
    Try to avoid taking statins for as long as you can. The studies from the drug manufacturers used some "funny" math to promote their products. When someone tells you that you have a 20% better chance of surviving if you take a certain drug, most people think something like, if I take the drug there is only a 10% chance that I will die and if I don't then I have a 30% chance of dying. Seems like an easy choice until you realize that the real numbers are something like 6% vs. 7.2%. Yup, that is a 20% difference but should never have been accepted as anything more than a negligible difference.
  • There are certain things you can change in your diet and your doctor should have provided you some guidance. Salmon and flax are really good to help cut out some of the LDL. Eggs, butter and cheese are some of the worst sources of cholesterol so try to avoid consuming much dairy. Obviously fried foods are really bad for cholesterol.

    In the end, you'll probably see more benefit from the standard diet and exercise.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    Raising your HDL also might be important, if it's low right now. Some people find success at raising their HDL by eating things like oatmeal, whole grains, almonds, walnuts, fish oils, flax seeds.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hdl-cholesterol/CL00030
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,219 Member
    I am pretty sure that cholesterol is produced in the liver from the fats we consume, I would say really watching yand lowering your intake on high fat foods would help. We only need a small amount of healthy unsaturated fats a day....I think the major cause is from the saturated and trans fats. Maybe do some research into that! That is what I understand from it.
    Actually as far as diet is concerned, everything influences our cholesterol levels, not just fat. If we wanted to just lower our cholesterol we could just eat refined carbs and sugar, that does a good job doing that, but that doesn't mean that's what we should do. There's much more to it.

    For example, in LDL cholesterol there's different particle sizes and the small dense ones are atherogenic, the ones to watch out for. Two people could have identical LDL of 100 and one could have 3 times as many particles, that isn't what we want. High triglycerides and low HDL is the quick way your Dr can determine whether someone has ApoB/Lp(a) type particles and it's extremely accurate, and of course if someone has higher HDL and low triglcyreides then they more than likely have mostly the larger more buoyant LDL particles which are less atherogenic and some say protective, which I quess you could when looking at the alternative. Those refined carbs and sugar I mentioned actually lower HDL cholesterol and lower LDL but also increase triglycerides and increase ApoB type lipoproteins, not good at all, even though it lowered out total cholesterol.
  • wwmorrow
    wwmorrow Posts: 118 Member
    Okay, I am not at all a cholesterol expert (which is why I posted the question....).

    My Total cholesterol is 220
    My HDL is 43 which I thought was okay...but, I guess could be higher
    My LDL cholesterol is 148
    My ratio is 5.1

    I have lost the weight mainly through diet, but with some exercise (about 3 times a week).
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Exercise and weight loss will help with your ratio of HDL/LDL. What does too high mean, HDL should be high.

    This is true and to add to the above comment. There are different types of LDL and if it is the fluffy LDL, it is not dangerous to the body if it is high. Only small particle vLDL is harmful.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    To the OP, sit down and read this article..........

    Written by a heart surgeon. http://www.sott.net/article/242516-Heart-Surgeon-Speaks-Out-On-What-Really-Causes-Heart-Disease
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I am pretty sure that cholesterol is produced in the liver from the fats we consume, I would say really watching yand lowering your intake on high fat foods would help. We only need a small amount of healthy unsaturated fats a day....I think the major cause is from the saturated and trans fats. Maybe do some research into that! That is what I understand from it.

    Sorry, but saturated fat has nothing to do with causing heart disease or high cholesterol.

    http://www.sott.net/article/242516-Heart-Surgeon-Speaks-Out-On-What-Really-Causes-Heart-Disease
  • shannond113
    shannond113 Posts: 7 Member
    I was also told I have high cholesterol and convinced my doctor to give me 3 months to lower it without being on medication. Agree with previous poster that there are too many unknowns and side effects in pharmaceuticals. I was advised to take red yeast rice (a natural statin) and saw that it needed to be taken in conjunction with Co-Q10 and with a meal that had some fat in it. Start eliminating animal products-meat, cheese,etc and eat more plant based foods. Become best friends with high fiber foods (oatmeal) and Omega-3s. My issue was that the high fiber foods are also higher in calories, so you just need to balance the rest of your day. Hope this helps and if you have any other advice I would love hearing it!
  • sanura
    sanura Posts: 459 Member
    I've been doing some serious research lately as my father was diagnosed with heart disease and required a stent.
    According to Dr. Esselstyn it is very important to keep all fats very low (about 10% of total calories) and eliminating animal products.
    there are alot of other doctors supporting this advice too.
  • Colleen118
    Colleen118 Posts: 491 Member
    According to my endocrinologist, Triglycerides change first... then otal cholesterol will change gradually in the order of HDL and the LDL. The first 3 months of my change I went from Triglycerides that were high to having them become relatively non-existant and my total cholesterol was better, good was getting higher and bad was going lower... how long have you been monitoring?
  • joe18401
    joe18401 Posts: 1 Member
    My cholesterol is about 220 also. I refused to be 31 years old and on Lipitor or some other drug like that at such a young age. Diet( eating the rigth foods ie spinach, oatmeal, kale, fruits, salmon, chicken, and other low fat foods), excercise, and red yeast rice pills (over the counter at any cvs or walgreens) has helped me get down to 196 in 4 months.
  • brajorie
    brajorie Posts: 15 Member
    Agreed. Leading causes of high cholestorol is from animal products. Try to introduce more fruits and veg's and whole grains, and eat less meat, even try implementing tofu as an option over meat. Watch the movie Forks Over Knives, it sheds some good insight into a whole foods plant based diet. Just because we look like we are in good shape we never know what's going on inside of our body. My dad had a heart attack a few years ago and he was in better shape than me, so you just never know.
  • baotzu
    baotzu Posts: 28
    There are certain things you can change in your diet and your doctor should have provided you some guidance. Salmon and flax are really good to help cut out some of the LDL. Eggs, butter and cheese are some of the worst sources of cholesterol so try to avoid consuming much dairy. Obviously fried foods are really bad for cholesterol.

    Dietary cholesterol has very little effect on blood cholesterol, so cutting dairy and "eggs, butter, and cheese" is essentially pointless. Blood cholesterol is more of an indicator of overall health, which can be manipulated through diet & exercise.

    The notion that eggs have a negative effect on blood cholesterol is just an "old wives tale" perpetuated through the years by the uninformed.

    Reducing cholesterol is simple: get healthy. I've yet to meet a non-overweight / non-skinnyfat person with bad cholesterol.

    Heck, I used to eat up to 8 eggs every day, along with bacon and butter, and my cholesterol levels are perfect. Just eat right, workout, and get healthy.. the cholesterol will follow.
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    Okay, I am not at all a cholesterol expert (which is why I posted the question....).

    My Total cholesterol is 220
    My HDL is 43 which I thought was okay...but, I guess could be higher
    My LDL cholesterol is 148
    My ratio is 5.1

    I have lost the weight mainly through diet, but with some exercise (about 3 times a week).

    If you've lowered your triglycerides and your cholesterol, then you're doing a good job. Keep at it, I bet the numbers will keep going down. In my opinion, avoid the meds if you can. Don't worry about eating SOME cholesterol and saturated fats.

    Let's say in the next 6 months you bump up that HDL by 10 and lower the LDL by 10. Your new ratio will be 4.2:1. That would be awesome! And it's totally do-able!
  • marsellient
    marsellient Posts: 591 Member
    Bump to read later. Even though I've lost weight and upped the exercise, I got a call to discuss the cholesterol on my blood tests from my doctor's office today. I'm upset and disappointed!
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    I recommend reading this study:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20421590
  • Firefox7275
    Firefox7275 Posts: 2,040 Member
    Okay, I am not at all a cholesterol expert (which is why I posted the question....).

    My Total cholesterol is 220
    My HDL is 43 which I thought was okay...but, I guess could be higher
    My LDL cholesterol is 148
    My ratio is 5.1

    I have lost the weight mainly through diet, but with some exercise (about 3 times a week).

    What diet specifically which foods and food groups, what type of exercise and do you still have body fat to shift? Are you just calorie counting or are you eating specifically for cardiovascular health and hypercholesterolaemia? How intensively are you training, assuming the doctor has cleared you for intense activity? Have you had targeted advice on either from someone other than your regular doctor (registered dietician, health/ fitness professional with an honours degree)?
  • marsellient
    marsellient Posts: 591 Member
    I recommend reading this study:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20421590

    Thanks. The link led me to some other useful information, too. Hard going for a lay person, but interesting.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3140289/

    I'm particularly interested in the literature on statins. I'm going to see the doc about my cholesterol levels on Monday and want to go in prepared in case she wants to prescribe. My first impulse is no, but I have yet to see the levels. After losing close to 40 lb it's all rather depressing!
  • kayduro
    kayduro Posts: 249 Member
    My doctor gave me 3 months to improve my cholesterol. i didnt know what to do so I did nothing for the first month. I did some reading and came to the conclusion that I needed to get with the program. I lowered my total cholesterol by 20% in the matter of 2 months by simply taking these every day:

    1200 mg fish oil capsules
    PGX fiber supplements
    Niacin
    Oatmeal with cinnamon and walnuts

    And eliminating or restricting these:

    Butter
    Eggs
    Fried foods
    Cheeses
    Red meats

    At my follow up appt I had lost 17lbs (which was 8% of my weight)
  • wwmorrow
    wwmorrow Posts: 118 Member
    Hmmm....basically just counting calories. And, no, it's just my family Dr. that I've talked to. I am going to try fish oil...several people have suggested that.
  • Firefox7275
    Firefox7275 Posts: 2,040 Member
    Hmmm....basically just counting calories. And, no, it's just my family Dr. that I've talked to. I am going to try fish oil...several people have suggested that.

    Definitely up your intake of the long chain omega-3s but do also be careful not to take in too much omega-6s because the balance is key. This is helpful, some of the foods might surprise you given you have been calorie counting but Medscape is sound
    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/775156
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
    Hmmm....basically just counting calories. And, no, it's just my family Dr. that I've talked to. I am going to try fish oil...several people have suggested that.

    eat more veggies, eat a bit less meat, along with counting calories and that should help. fish oil's always a good idea as well.