Protein?
HaleyxErin
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I have been vegetarian since the start of the year and I've been tracking my food again since yesterday and I've been way short on protein. Like I'm 100+ shy. Even before going veg I hated eating meat I only ate it for dinner for lack of another option now I don't even before going veg I was crazy short. How do I get it in?
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Quinoa, bulgar, barley as your grains will add some protein to your meals rather than using something like rice.
Peanut butter, almond butter... things like that.
Yogurt.
Nuts.
Cheese.
Eggs.
Soy products (soy milk, edamame, tofu)
Seitan and tempeh.0 -
For starters:
Yogurt (my Fage 0 fat greek yogurt has 18 grams per 100 calorie serving)
Cottage cheese
Nuts0 -
You only need like .6 per lb of lean body mass, so it's not as much as people think. You can just get protein shakes that are made from rice and mix it with a pea protein. Mixing different protein powders is only necessary when you're not getting it from a source of whey. Animal byproducts just have a different nutritional profile... if you're vegetarian and not planning to go vegan ever you can still have whey.0
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Eggs, cheese, soy, almonds, yogurt (especially greek) beans, veggie burgers.. there are SO many vegetarian protein options out there. So many. Just spend a little more time at the grocery store next time you go and look at nutrition facts and try new things! you'd be surprised.0
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beans and lentils are excellent
whole grains have protein too
tofu, and other soy products are high in protein
if you can't seem to get enough from food, which is rare because as someone else mentioned you only need 0.6 grams per kg of body weight, there are some great vegetarian protein powders like SunWarrior and Vega0 -
The foods that I've found that give me the biggest protein/calorie bang for buck are light string cheese (in particular, 365 light string cheese from Whole Foods), low fat cottage cheese, and Alvarado Bakery California Style Complete Protein bread.0
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You only need like .6 per lb of lean body mass, so it's not as much as people think.
i begged a differ.0 -
You only need like .6 per lb of lean body mass, so it's not as much as people think.
i begged a differ.
based on nutritional training from Human Kinetics and CanFit Pro, what's your source?0 -
You only need like .6 per lb of lean body mass, so it's not as much as people think.
i begged a differ.
based on nutritional training from Human Kinetics and CanFit Pro, what's your source?
You know as well as I do (I hope) that one's protein needs are based entirely upon what they are doing to and with their body. The 0.5-0.6 g/lbs. is for an average person doing average things. In this case, we do not know enough about this person's training regimen (if they have one), so we have absolutely nothing to base their protein requirement on.0 -
You only need like .6 per lb of lean body mass, so it's not as much as people think.
i begged a differ.
based on nutritional training from Human Kinetics and CanFit Pro, what's your source?
You know as well as I do (I hope) that one's protein needs are based entirely upon what they are doing to and with their body. The 0.5-0.6 g/lbs. is for an average person doing average things. In this case, we do not know enough about this person's training regimen (if they have one), so we have absolutely nothing to base their protein requirement on.
proteins needs are based on your structure (weight), not your activity, with the exception of those few athletes engaged in serious endurance training, in which case it may go up slightly to 0.8 for 1 hour of intense training or 1.0 for even more lengthy training.0 -
yeah the closest thing I do to training is going up and down the stairs at school and walking the block every now and then.0
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Edamame - soybeans
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/9873/2
(i think this might be an overestimate for it but it still does have a lot of protein)0 -
Hemp Protein Powder
Peanut Butter
Lentils
Beans
Split Peas
Quorn, Bocca and other fake meats
Even eat protein at every single meal and everytime I eat I am still under my protein too.0 -
You only need like .6 per lb of lean body mass, so it's not as much as people think.
i begged a differ.
based on nutritional training from Human Kinetics and CanFit Pro, what's your source?
You know as well as I do (I hope) that one's protein needs are based entirely upon what they are doing to and with their body. The 0.5-0.6 g/lbs. is for an average person doing average things. In this case, we do not know enough about this person's training regimen (if they have one), so we have absolutely nothing to base their protein requirement on.
proteins needs are based on your structure (weight), not your activity, with the exception of those few athletes engaged in serious endurance training, in which case it may go up slightly to 0.8 for 1 hour of intense training or 1.0 for even more lengthy training.
Also, you neglected to mention that the people who need protein more than endurance athletes are the people who are engaged in weight training. They need protein more than endurance athletes, and there are vast numbers of them.
So basically, if all you do is some light cardio and so-called "toning" exercises, yeah, 0.5-0.6 g/lbs is fine, but the people who are not in this group are not "few".0 -
You only need like .6 per lb of lean body mass, so it's not as much as people think.
i begged a differ.
based on nutritional training from Human Kinetics and CanFit Pro, what's your source?
You know as well as I do (I hope) that one's protein needs are based entirely upon what they are doing to and with their body. The 0.5-0.6 g/lbs. is for an average person doing average things. In this case, we do not know enough about this person's training regimen (if they have one), so we have absolutely nothing to base their protein requirement on.
proteins needs are based on your structure (weight), not your activity, with the exception of those few athletes engaged in serious endurance training, in which case it may go up slightly to 0.8 for 1 hour of intense training or 1.0 for even more lengthy training.
Also, you neglected to mention that the people who need protein more than endurance athletes are the people who are engaged in weight training. They need protein more than endurance athletes, and there are vast numbers of them.
So basically, if all you do is some light cardio and so-called "toning" exercises, yeah, 0.5-0.6 g/lbs is fine, but the people who are not in this group are not "few".
What's YOUR source?
and 30,000 is nothing compared to the over 300 million people who live in this country, so yes, it's a few.0 -
re: weightlifters needing more protein:
http://grist.org/article/protein-how-much-do-we-need/If you’re a serious athlete, that’s where it gets a little tricky. Athletes’ protein needs are widely debated, but the ADA has established guidelines that can at least help get you in the right ballpark. If you regularly do endurance training — like running medium-length races or going on long bike rides — you should aim for 1.2 to 1.7 g per kg. For a 150-pound person, that would be 82 to 116 grams per day. If you’re in heavy training — think preparing for a marathon or an Ironman competition — then you’ll want to get 1.4 to 2 g per kg. That works out to between 95 and 136 grams for our 150-pound athlete. If you’re into lifting weights and other strength training, you’ll need 1.6 to 1.7 g/kg.
confusing because it's comparing grams to kg instead of pounds, but note that it doesn't recommend higher than 136g protein for a 150 pound athlete. If you're 6'5" it'll be higher, but in no way does anyone need 1.5g/pound.0 -
Take a look at some of the writings of Dr. John McDougall....with McDougall program. He endorses a vegan lifestyle and cites our RDA for protein based on .8 grams per KILO of body weight.
He recommends that all protein come from whole foods rather than powders ...as you look closely at your veggies and beans for nutritional value you will see a lot! Further he recommends adults, men and women, will range between 30 and 80 grams per day.
I find that eating whole foods I can easily make that...if I focus on high protein foods I can get close to 80 without too much trouble. Nuts and soy bring a lot of fat along with the protein...look at beans and TVP as some options.
Remember that more protein also demands more calcium for metabolizing the protein... take a look at his book "Starch Solution" for more discussion....he presents an alternative opinion as compared to ketogenic diets!0 -
1g per pound of bodyweight if you're trying to gain muscle, and want to dot your i's and cross your t's. it's probably you don't need this much.
eating protein is not about the abundance of aminos needed to repair tissue...that's probably well taken care of within 0.3g/lb.
we eat protein in abundance upwards of 1g/bodyweight to assure positive nitrogen balance and continued anabolic states. protein synthesis is in large part driven by the presence of animos in our bloodstream. go too long and we will be in a negative protein balance, and therefore not synthesizing protein.
that being said, if you are not a bodybuilder or a professional strength athlete, how much protein you get to supply your daily functions is almost irrelevant. But I would agree that the RDI is way too low and what you'd read on bodybuilding sites like 2g/lb is way way too high.0 -
whey.....duh0
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I've been vegetarian for over 2 years & manage to get between 110-140g of protein a dy with no trouble. Feel free to look at my diary for ideas.0
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1g per pound of bodyweight if you're trying to gain muscle, and want to dot your i's and cross your t's. it's probably you don't need this much.
eating protein is not about the abundance of aminos needed to repair tissue...that's probably well taken care of within 0.3g/lb.
we eat protein in abundance upwards of 1g/bodyweight to assure positive nitrogen balance and continued anabolic states. protein synthesis is in large part driven by the presence of animos in our bloodstream. go too long and we will be in a negative protein balance, and therefore not synthesizing protein.
that being said, if you are not a bodybuilder or a professional strength athlete, how much protein you get to supply your daily functions is almost irrelevant. But I would agree that the RDI is way too low and what you'd read on bodybuilding sites like 2g/lb is way way too high.
correction: 1g per pound of Lean Body Mass0 -
Adding nuts, beans, soy and quinoa should help. Quinoa is a complete protein. Good luck with your journey!0
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1g per pound of bodyweight if you're trying to gain muscle, and want to dot your i's and cross your t's. it's probably you don't need this much.
eating protein is not about the abundance of aminos needed to repair tissue...that's probably well taken care of within 0.3g/lb.
we eat protein in abundance upwards of 1g/bodyweight to assure positive nitrogen balance and continued anabolic states. protein synthesis is in large part driven by the presence of animos in our bloodstream. go too long and we will be in a negative protein balance, and therefore not synthesizing protein.
that being said, if you are not a bodybuilder or a professional strength athlete, how much protein you get to supply your daily functions is almost irrelevant. But I would agree that the RDI is way too low and what you'd read on bodybuilding sites like 2g/lb is way way too high.
correction: 1g per pound of Lean Body Mass
nah, that's way too much.0 -
I'd rather have too much (for me, that's only around 100g) than too little. From what I've read and what I've lived, this amount is perfect (I actually prefer about 115 on my train days,) for building and maintaining muscle as well as guiding my appetite toward healthy, satisfying choices. It is different for everyone, based on activity level, activity type, and plain old personal preference/body type. However, I think it is clear that the FDA is misleading people with the RDI for carbs/protein/fat split.0
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whey.....duh
the OP said she was vegetarian. whey is derived from cows milk0 -
she didn't say that she was vegan0
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whey.....duh
the OP said she was vegetarian. whey is derived from cows milk
I don't see how cows milk is meat. Vegetarian* not Vegan.0 -
I'd rather have too much (for me, that's only around 100g) than too little. From what I've read and what I've lived, this amount is perfect (I actually prefer about 115 on my train days,) for building and maintaining muscle as well as guiding my appetite toward healthy, satisfying choices. It is different for everyone, based on activity level, activity type, and plain old personal preference/body type. However, I think it is clear that the FDA is misleading people with the RDI for carbs/protein/fat split.
The FDA mislead people!? WHAT?
:P
I hate the FDA. lol0 -
1g per pound of bodyweight if you're trying to gain muscle, and want to dot your i's and cross your t's. it's probably you don't need this much.
eating protein is not about the abundance of aminos needed to repair tissue...that's probably well taken care of within 0.3g/lb.
we eat protein in abundance upwards of 1g/bodyweight to assure positive nitrogen balance and continued anabolic states. protein synthesis is in large part driven by the presence of animos in our bloodstream. go too long and we will be in a negative protein balance, and therefore not synthesizing protein.
that being said, if you are not a bodybuilder or a professional strength athlete, how much protein you get to supply your daily functions is almost irrelevant. But I would agree that the RDI is way too low and what you'd read on bodybuilding sites like 2g/lb is way way too high.
correction: 1g per pound of Lean Body Mass
You're right, LBM. like i said. it's to dot your i's and cross your t's. intake of protein is not only just for repairing tissue and such, like I said. It serves the other purposes of positive protein synthesis, and not to mention it has the highest TEF (thermic effect of food) of all three macros.
The recommendation is loaded with these implications. Although I agree that 1g/lb LBM is probably more than you need, even if you are a bodybuilder, there is no point in going under....as protein is beneficial in a plethora of other roles.
I'm not really arguing in the negative against this. Just food for thought!0 -
lol. Okay, we're on the same team, then. I'll just have an extra serving of steak than you---and maybe the OP's portion if it's a train day for me.0
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