Anyone on keto?
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and u have only lost 5 pounds? Why don't u stick to the calorie plan this site has set for you?? EVERYONE is losing weight on this site following that super simple plan. Why complicate it further with extra added bs?
I've only lost 5 pounds because I've only been doing it a week.. I have tried losing weight for a good few years and nothing for me has worked because I have suffered from an eating disorder and this is the thing that I have found works for me and keeps me eating so I'd appreciate it if people just gave me the answer I was looking for and not get mad at me and not take into account that maybe this works for me and is keeping me form relapse thanks.0 -
Ah, the traditional MFP keto kock fight ... we need carbs! the brain is starving for fuel! And that old chestnut ... ketoacidosis!!
The humanity, the humanity.
I did it for a few months, recalibrated my taste buds, got a sense of what hunger is (not a blood sugar crash) then realised I didn't have to do it long term, switched back to balanced and am losing weight just as well by concentrating on the energy gap.
I think low carbing and keto is a valuable tool but I wouldn't do it long-term because I like a bit more variety and lot less rules in my nutritional life.
On topic (I get there eventually) - The effects you describe can last weeks in extreme cases (maybe a sign it is not for you? Like some other low carb side-effects worth watching out for ... muscle cramping, sleeplessness, dry eyes/mouth) ... keep the sodium up (broth is tradition to fight the "Atkins Flu") and keep hydrated.
Good luck to all whatever path you choose, listen to your bodies and if it is telling you to change it up then do it.
I'll book in my low-carb/keto-themed post for this time next week again.
See y'all then, enjoy the lively debate
^This...you brain needs a MINIMUM of 50 carbs a day to FUNCTION!! Ketosis diets are so incredibly bad for you...there is a reason why the healthcare industry doesn't support them anymore....they are doing damage to your body!!! But go ahead...because I hate it when people tell me what to do..but you posted in a forum...just saying.0 -
I'm on the keto diet, but I'm only doing it for about a week or two, I hit a nasty plateau and needed a way to break it and this was the most drastic change i could think of to make to my body. I've been on it three days and finally got down to the weight I was before the holidays. It's not meant for long term because you will get sick after a while if you do it too long. I'm on day three and doing this for the first time, the worst symptoms I've gotten were a little tired, the occasional headache, and bad breath, nothing too crazy. It should only last a week, but don't forget to carb up one day a week to keep your glycogen levels a little up so you continue losing weight.0
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^This...you brain needs a MINIMUM of 50 carbs a day to FUNCTION!! Ketosis diets are so incredibly bad for you...there is a reason why the healthcare industry doesn't support them anymore....they are doing damage to your body!!! But go ahead...because I hate it when people tell me what to do..but you posted in a forum...just saying.
Your brain needs glucose. And your body can produce glucose from protein. Is that the only reason you say they are unhealthy?0 -
Ah, the traditional MFP keto kock fight ... we need carbs! the brain is starving for fuel! And that old chestnut ... ketoacidosis!!
The humanity, the humanity.
I did it for a few months, recalibrated my taste buds, got a sense of what hunger is (not a blood sugar crash) then realised I didn't have to do it long term, switched back to balanced and am losing weight just as well by concentrating on the energy gap.
I think low carbing and keto is a valuable tool but I wouldn't do it long-term because I like a bit more variety and lot less rules in my nutritional life.
On topic (I get there eventually) - The effects you describe can last weeks in extreme cases (maybe a sign it is not for you? Like some other low carb side-effects worth watching out for ... muscle cramping, sleeplessness, dry eyes/mouth) ... keep the sodium up (broth is tradition to fight the "Atkins Flu") and keep hydrated.
Good luck to all whatever path you choose, listen to your bodies and if it is telling you to change it up then do it.
I'll book in my low-carb/keto-themed post for this time next week again.
See y'all then, enjoy the lively debate
^This...you brain needs a MINIMUM of 50 carbs a day to FUNCTION!! Ketosis diets are so incredibly bad for you...there is a reason why the healthcare industry doesn't support them anymore....they are doing damage to your body!!! But go ahead...because I hate it when people tell me what to do..but you posted in a forum...just saying.
No it doesn't. Where do you get that figure? Don't make things up.0 -
I firsty, think its interesting that people are like OH NO the way youve decided to loose weight is wrong, however that seems like an answer to a question that you didnt exactly ask.
Congratulations on finding something that you are willing to try... if YOU find it unsustainable then move on, but surely a week in youll be at that lovely stage where weight is dropping off and youre body is adjusting.
Ive read a bunch of articles and research about Keto diets and yes your body will have a whinge about what it is doing as it isnt used to it.. and lets be frank, we all dont like stepping out of our comfort zone. You should be fine after around 3 days up to 2 weeks and trust me you will feel great after you recover.
I think its interesting that people are saying this is unsustainable. If you are diagnosed with Diabeties this diet will be prescribed to you- this diet is also prescribed to people for the maintenance of epilepsy...whilst the lifestyle may not suit some - its a little rude to condemn something that MANY people live with for other reasons than weightloss.0 -
Not sure about weight loss, it I recently lowered my carbs to 35% and my chronic migraines seem to be less.... But it's only been a few weeks... It may just be a few good weeks for my head....I'll stick it out a bit longer. Who knows, if it continues lesson my migraines I MIGHT drop them to 30%.... Maybe. Or just keep my grain carbs super low and not worry about fruit and veggie carbs.
Ps- I think 35% is about 120 grams for me.0 -
If you are diagnosed with Diabeties this diet will be prescribed to you
This is (unfortunately) untrue. I am a type 1 diabetic, and what I was told when I was diagnosed (10+ years ago) as well as fairly recently is that I should be eating 60g of carbohydrates *per meal*. Doing this leads to incredible sugar spikes. Since going keto and dropping my carbohydrates to ~20g per day total, my numbers have never been better. I honestly don't know why this way of eating isn't more emphasized for diabetics.0 -
I will never understand the "This diet works for me, therefore it will work for everyone!!!" and the converse, "This diet didn't work for me, therefore it's crap and nobody should do it!!!"
Yes, your brain needs glucose. No you do not have to consume 50 grams of carbs per day to satisfy that need. Gluconeogenesis. But if you talk to a sample of people who are on a ketogenic diet, you'll find that many of them actually DO consume up to 50 grams of carbs a day and still lose weight just fine (some can consume 100 grams - everyone is different).
I do what works for me. Weight Watchers and other calorie counting plans don't deliver. Low-carb eating does. But you know, WW works for a lot of other people, so who am I to tell them they're wrong? If it works for you, do it. If it doesn't, move on. Arguing over it on a message board seems so silly. Are you really that bothered if some random person on the internet thinks you're doing it wrong?0 -
hmm,, i am a carb gal.0
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Diabetics in DKA? sorry couldnt help it0
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I have been doing keto for several years and the symptoms that you are describing are quite normal and will pass in less than a week. It's similar symptoms as you try to get off some drugs but will as said pass quicker. Once you have done the metabolic shift you will feel great...
Benny - sober carboholic0 -
Ah, the traditional MFP keto kock fight ... we need carbs! the brain is starving for fuel! And that old chestnut ... ketoacidosis!!
The humanity, the humanity.
I did it for a few months, recalibrated my taste buds, got a sense of what hunger is (not a blood sugar crash) then realised I didn't have to do it long term, switched back to balanced and am losing weight just as well by concentrating on the energy gap.
I think low carbing and keto is a valuable tool but I wouldn't do it long-term because I like a bit more variety and lot less rules in my nutritional life.
On topic (I get there eventually) - The effects you describe can last weeks in extreme cases (maybe a sign it is not for you? Like some other low carb side-effects worth watching out for ... muscle cramping, sleeplessness, dry eyes/mouth) ... keep the sodium up (broth is tradition to fight the "Atkins Flu") and keep hydrated.
Good luck to all whatever path you choose, listen to your bodies and if it is telling you to change it up then do it.
I'll book in my low-carb/keto-themed post for this time next week again.
See y'all then, enjoy the lively debate
^This...you brain needs a MINIMUM of 50 carbs a day to FUNCTION!! Ketosis diets are so incredibly bad for you...there is a reason why the healthcare industry doesn't support them anymore....they are doing damage to your body!!! But go ahead...because I hate it when people tell me what to do..but you posted in a forum...just saying.
Please dont believe everything you read ;-)
You know that people with epilepsy are on this diet with great improvement
There are essential fat acids and amino acids (i.e. Body cant make itself), but there are no essential carbs because our body can make substitute ie ketones
That the brain needs carbs to work is just pure nonsense, BUT, there are functions in your body that will not work too well on a long term keto diet, but no author i heard of recommends a very low carb diet forever, but either introduce eg fruits after you have reached your goal or cycle carbs...
Too much carbs is much more serious than too few....0 -
Lyle McDonald recommends around 5 g sodium, 1 g potassium, and 500 mg of magnesium daily while on a keto diet.
I'm guessing this is why.0 -
Been doing keto for a few weeks now, I actually feel more energized and I could feel when I need to do a cycle of carbing up. Never experienced any of those side effects.0
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I'm only going to speak from my personal experience, so please don't poop on me. I gained 50 lbs of beer fat in a year. I always weighed heavy, at 5'3" and 134 lbs, I was a size 4. I looked awful.... I started working out two months ago by doing HIIT, and compound strength training on alternate days, six days a week at an 850 calorie DEFICIT, per day, and didn't lose ONE POUND... I decided, based on all of the studies, my own BSc in human sciences, to try to get to a fat adapted state. This comes after the adjustments for keto adaptation in the low carb induction phase of various diets using that modality. I wanted to still be able to train using fat as fuel whilst maintaining strength. Yes, for the first while, I wasn't quite adjusted and my Deadlifts, dips, squats etc floundered. Now, my strength has increased, the fat is melting off, and my asthma and allergies have disappeared. Low carb workedfor me, and I can still pull 185 lb Deadlifts.... I eat very few carbs in just dark berries and cruciferous vegetables. My genetic background is Siberian/Russian and Turkish, and I have type O+ blood. I can't speak for anyone else but I feel better at 45 after four children, a failed Bankart repair, subsequent Laterjet repair, a sub-dural hemorrhage with a 27 mm midline shift and three evacuations (I should be dead...) than I ever did at 30...sorry for the run-on sentences. In retrospect, I believe the induction discomforts were attributable to carbohydrate detoxification, and the fact that my immune system was realigning itself. I had sore swollen lymphatic nodes, earaches, sore joints the uber sneezes etc., but I gritted it out and won.0
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are you talking about ketoacidosis? cause that is fatal....
eat whole foods, consume 20% less than TDEE and exercise..that really is all you need not fads. This sounds scarey as hell.. youre body is telling you it is bad for you...listen.
Ketosis is a normal human state. It is not the same as ketoacidosis.... google is our friend....
Ketogenic is not a fad. Some people, such as Inuit, were ketogenic almost permanently. As have I been for over 16 months with nothing but awesome effects on my health. Weight loss? See below.
That said, I do not support being "on keto" just for weight loss with the intention of going back to eating "normally" after a weight loss goal is reached. A ketogenic lifestyle is awesome, but it fails badly (as do all diets) as a temporary "diet".0 -
Ketosis is a completely normal state. We have evolved with two "metabolic" mechanisms as a means of survival. During the season of plenty of carb rich sources (fruits) our ancestors were able to gorge and fatten up for the subsequent "lean" season. During the lean season, without any access to fruits, they could survive on eating more animal products - so their bodies would go into ketosis, accessing energy from the animals they caught as well as the fat storage on their bodies. Unfortunately, our modern food, agriculture and transportation industry removed all barriers to seasonal food. For example, In nature, strawberries are available a few weeks, and then they are gone, only available next year. Today, you can get strawberries all year round at any grocery store. This gives you the option to stay in perpetual "carbing" state, and depending on the biochemistry of your body, this may create elevated blood sugar levels, which leads to obesity and other ailments like diabetes.
I never experienced headaches or anything like that when I transition to ketosis. I did read though that some people may feel something during the transition, just one to three days about. They recommend increasing salts during this period, and highly recommend sipping beef or chicken broth.
I'm in ketosis - and totally love it!
Good luck.0
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