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I guess I don't see it that way...I've only done p90x and incorporated insanity in to that routine.

I don't know what you are training to do, but most of those dvd's are fine for me. I'm not an extreme athlete. I play sports, but my living is not made doing so.

I don't know what you consider expensive either. I don't think $360 for a year is expensive for a gym membership nor do I think $100 for workout dvds is expensive.

Try craigslist for the extra equipment...let others buy them full price and you can buy them 80% off barely used from them.

Again I think 99.9% of ppl would be fine doing any type of workout and eating healthy.

The bulk of P90X's resistance training is isolation training, which I personally don't believe in. It yields no functional benefit and only exists to shape the muscles of the body. This is something I personally have no use for given my goals because you can accomplish that same result with compound training, which also yields sizable strength gains and tremendous calorie burns. The problem is that compound training cannot be replicated at home with the amount of weight typically used for these home video workout programs because doing compound training properly requires having significantly more weight--enough to require getting the whole body behind the weight to accomplish the lift. They use bodyweight exercises to give you the strength gains and the weights for isolation training. But this process is much less efficient and leads to a much more time consuming workout. Maybe it's just because I'm an efficiency nut, but why should I spend an hour or more doing something that can be accomplished in 30 minutes? I don't get it.

In any case my perspective on these programs comes from the perspective of someone who cares more about being able to DO more than seeing the number on the scale move or looking better with their shirt off. So if you only care about how you look and not seeing gains that translate to better athletic performance you might want to ignore what I have to say because it doesn't apply to you.

For my goals, supplementing a high intensity cardio regimen with the strength training (such as with the Insanity/P90X hybrid you mentioned) is counterproductive as muscles need rest after proper strength training to optimize actual strength gains. So chasing your strength training day with a day of super balls-to-the-wall cardio may be burning more calories but it's also getting in the way of seeing functional strength gains.

In any case my perspective on these programs comes from the perspective of someone who cares more about being able to DO more than seeing the number on the scale move or looking better with their shirt off. So if you only care about how you look and not seeing gains that translate to better athletic performance you might want to ignore what I have to say because it doesn't apply to you.

I have SIGNIFICANTLY better athletic performance snowboarding now that I've completed P90X and a P90X/insanity hybrid. I did these programs solely to improve performance in my winter sports - and I can ride moguls for 4 days straight without getting tired...

I agree with you that if you want to see muscle growth and bulk, these programs are not necessarily the best fit - lifting heavy will benefit you much more. However, I do not think it is fair for you to generalize that it is not possible to become stronger and perform better athletically using these programs.

I was in fantastic shape before I started this program. I did not start them to lose weight or look better with my shirt off. I continue to get what I need out of these programs. You may not - and that's totally okay, but this program HAS worked for me and many others...

If you read the whole posts I didn't say you can't, I just said they aren't the most efficient about it. They use bodyweight exercise in P90X to try to make up for the fact that the isolation training alone yields no functional strength gains. That all comes from the bodyweight training. But compounds > isolation any day of the week. Just compounds require way too much weight compared to what most people have at home, or have room for.

In any case my perspective on these programs comes from the perspective of someone who cares more about being able to DO more than seeing the number on the scale move or looking better with their shirt off. So if you only care about how you look and not seeing gains that translate to better athletic performance you might want to ignore what I have to say because it doesn't apply to you.

I have SIGNIFICANTLY better athletic performance snowboarding now that I've completed P90X and a P90X/insanity hybrid. I did these programs solely to improve performance in my winter sports - and I can ride moguls for 4 days straight without getting tired...

I agree with you that if you want to see muscle growth and bulk, these programs are not necessarily the best fit - lifting heavy will benefit you much more. However, I do not think it is fair for you to generalize that it is not possible to become stronger and perform better athletically using these programs.

I was in fantastic shape before I started this program. I did not start them to lose weight or look better with my shirt off. I continue to get what I need out of these programs. You may not - and that's totally okay, but this program HAS worked for me and many others...

If you read the whole posts I didn't say you can't, I just said they aren't the most efficient about it. They use bodyweight exercise in P90X to try to make up for the fact that the isolation training alone yields no functional strength gains. That all comes from the bodyweight training. But compounds > isolation any day of the week. Just compounds require way too much weight compared to what most people have at home, or have room for.

I don't disagree with your efficiency argument. But I do not necessarily agree that it is always more efficient for better athletic performance. Doing heavy deadlifts and squats in the gym would give me bigger and stronger leg muscles, yes - but will it give me the endurance and agility necessary to ride a straight line of moguls from top of the mountain to the bottom without getting tired? No.

I'm not completely disagreeing with you - I just think you're generalizing a little too much.

I have done Turbo Jam, Turbo Fire (on week 14) and Brazil Butt Lift. I just started throwing in Les Mills combat. I have lost 45lbs and 40+ inches, so they totally work. I like Turbo Fire and Les Mills because the music is good and the instructors are super motivating, but I am sure whatever program you choose you will enjoy

Did insanity and lost 27lbs, before and afters are on my profile if you wanna check it out

Bump, so I can find this thread again and post my results. I will finish up 12 weeks of Turbofire on Sunday!

In any case my perspective on these programs comes from the perspective of someone who cares more about being able to DO more than seeing the number on the scale move or looking better with their shirt off. So if you only care about how you look and not seeing gains that translate to better athletic performance you might want to ignore what I have to say because it doesn't apply to you.

I have SIGNIFICANTLY better athletic performance snowboarding now that I've completed P90X and a P90X/insanity hybrid. I did these programs solely to improve performance in my winter sports - and I can ride moguls for 4 days straight without getting tired...

I agree with you that if you want to see muscle growth and bulk, these programs are not necessarily the best fit - lifting heavy will benefit you much more. However, I do not think it is fair for you to generalize that it is not possible to become stronger and perform better athletically using these programs.

I was in fantastic shape before I started this program. I did not start them to lose weight or look better with my shirt off. I continue to get what I need out of these programs. You may not - and that's totally okay, but this program HAS worked for me and many others...

If you read the whole posts I didn't say you can't, I just said they aren't the most efficient about it. They use bodyweight exercise in P90X to try to make up for the fact that the isolation training alone yields no functional strength gains. That all comes from the bodyweight training. But compounds > isolation any day of the week. Just compounds require way too much weight compared to what most people have at home, or have room for.

I don't disagree with your efficiency argument. But I do not necessarily agree that it is always more efficient for better athletic performance. Doing heavy deadlifts and squats in the gym would give me bigger and stronger leg muscles, yes - but will it give me the endurance and agility necessary to ride a straight line of moguls from top of the mountain to the bottom without getting tired? No.

I'm not completely disagreeing with you - I just think you're generalizing a little too much.

I wasn't simply referring to squats and deadlifts or that style of heavy lifting either I'm talking a little bit more outside the box. Try sandbag workouts, suspension training, stuff like that.

Still keep in mind though that looking for the most "efficient" workout (meaning gaining more strength less time) isn't necessarily the best route for ALL aspects of athletic performance. Another part of athletic performance other than strength is endurance - which requires longer periods of exercise. The functional strength gains (yes, mainly from the bodyweight exercises, I agree) that I have a acquired through these programs have also manifested themselves alongside an incredible cardiovascular and endurance strength that I feel I wouldn't have gotten better otherwise. For example, forcing myself to jump up and down for an hour really helps when I have to be essentially jumping and turning 180s to make mogul to mogul on a snowboard down a slope.

My point: The efficiency argument only depends on what KIND of athletic performance you want.

Even then, you can challenge endurance with timed set training. Not without spending forever on it. That's the point behind Crossfit/HIIT

I think we just need to agree to disagree =/. What is better for you is not necessarily better for me. I enjoy these workouts and I get a lot out of them. It trains me properly for the sport that I do. I mean...in both plyometrics and the insanity videos, I have to spend time squatting down like I'm on a snowboard then jumping and turning a 180. It directly translates. Plus, I like pushing myself for longer periods of time. I'd rather be up and moving for that extra half hour than not. Working out isn't really a chore for me. It's my "me" time. I'm not really looking to do a 20 minute workout and be done.

I've done HIIT, and honestly it wasn't until I did my hybrid that I really started to notice my improved abilities on the slopes. Why that is true for me and not for you, I'm not sure...but I can't be convinced this is the end all be all for everyone when my personal experience suggests otherwise.

My point this entire time has been that you can't generalize that one type of workout is "better" than another. Or is going to give you "better" or "more efficient" methods of achieving true performance. Or is going to get you to "DO" more as you said. It really depends on the person, how much they enjoy what they're doing and how much of their effort they're going to put into it.

Making gross generalizations about what exercise regimens are best worries me that someone may be discouraged from trying something new that they could have potentially fallen in love with and gotten great results from. That's all...