P90X and other Training Together
daj150
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Anyone every do P90X and still train for long distance events? For example, I am in the middle of triathlon and half marathon training, but was planning on starting P90X. Has anyone ever done anything like this successfully? Everyone I have talked to so far says I am crazy...am I?
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/bump...anyone????0
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I'm doing New Rules of Lifting for Women and training for a half marathon. I dont think its crazy. Although its only been a month so I dont know how successful I will be. Good Luck!0
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While Ironman training I used P90x but not everyday. It was too much. I loved the plyometrics, yoga, stretching, and abs. Focus on your "A" race and if you can squeeze some P90 in on easy days then do it. I think it helps with core and balance.0
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I just started a P90X/Insanity/Half Marathon training regime. I only have 5 weeks to go until my half though so I'm not sure how this will turn out...hoping for the best though. I think as long as you get ample rest, eat enough calories, and train legs at least 2 days before the long runs we should be good.0
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I'm doing P90x and 30 day shred together and that gets me exhausted. I can only imagine how tired you will be doing both. If you do decide to do it then make sure you set aside time to rest and get enough sleep.0
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After finishing P90X a couple times I used it as maintenance. I would do upper body workouts on Mon and Wed and then run on Tue and Thur. Fri would be Yoga day and Sat or Sun would be long run day. It can be done but you will miss out on the rest of the workouts if you have not done them before.
If you have not completed the program maybe substitute the cardio workouts in on Friday in place of Yoga and rotate them?0 -
Wow awesome job!0
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After finishing P90X a couple times I used it as maintenance. I would do upper body workouts on Mon and Wed and then run on Tue and Thur. Fri would be Yoga day and Sat or Sun would be long run day. It can be done but you will miss out on the rest of the workouts if you have not done them before.
If you have not completed the program maybe substitute the cardio workouts in on Friday in place of Yoga and rotate them?
First, grats on completing a couple times.
Second, I see your point, but I really want to complete the program and fit in my training...my thoughts are....
1. Follow P90X classic calendar, then in addition to P90X stuff....
2. Long run on Sundays
3. Long swim on Thursday mornings
4. Long bike on Saturday
5. Tempo/Speed Run Wednesday mornings / afternoons
6. Not sure on the additional swim and bike yet...0 -
I'm doing P90x and 30 day shred together and that gets me exhausted. I can only imagine how tired you will be doing both. If you do decide to do it then make sure you set aside time to rest and get enough sleep.
Yeah, going to be interesting fitting in enough sleep...I typically don't get more than 5 hours ever0 -
IDK, olympic atheletes are training nearly all day long sometimes.
overtraining is real of course, but the point where it becomes detrimental is going to be different for everyone.
i say go for it. just make sure you eat a reasonably high amount of calories and watch out for signs of over training.
although you do a lot of weight lifting, p90x is not a mass building program, so its not like its diametrically opposed to distance running.0 -
I don't do tri's but doing P90X has helped with endurance and strength in my long distance runs. Listen to your body...0
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IDK, olympic atheletes are training nearly all day long sometimes.
overtraining is real of course, but the point where it becomes detrimental is going to be different for everyone.
i say go for it. just make sure you eat a reasonably high amount of calories and watch out for signs of over training.
although you do a lot of weight lifting, p90x is not a mass building program, so its not like its diametrically opposed to distance running.
I think my major concern is getting enough Fat and Protein in my eating...I never come close to my required amount of daily Fat and from other forums, I need to at least double my protein, which I have a hard time meeting it right now. Calories overall shouldn't be an issue though.
I know when my body is tired...but never been really good at identifying over training...that is something else I am reading up on now too.0 -
IDK, olympic atheletes are training nearly all day long sometimes.
overtraining is real of course, but the point where it becomes detrimental is going to be different for everyone.
i say go for it. just make sure you eat a reasonably high amount of calories and watch out for signs of over training.
although you do a lot of weight lifting, p90x is not a mass building program, so its not like its diametrically opposed to distance running.
I think my major concern is getting enough Fat and Protein in my eating...I never come close to my required amount of daily Fat and from other forums, I need to at least double my protein, which I have a hard time meeting it right now. Calories overall shouldn't be an issue though.
I know when my body is tired...but never been really good at identifying over training...that is something else I am reading up on now too.
Have you thought about using whey protein or bars? I know whole foods are preferred (I prefer them, anyway), but sometimes supplementing protein makes it easier to meet your needs.
I haven't trained for an endurance event before, but I completed P90X lean last spring and have just begun my second round (this time I am doing P90X classic). I can tell you that it can be a very intense program, and adding other workouts to it can tire you out pretty quickly. But hey, give it a try. If you become exhausted, you can always just do the weight training circuits and leave out the cardio. I would still do Yoga X, though...the flexibility and balance training of Yoga X is great for overall fitness.0 -
I've completed P90x 3 times now... While training for a marathon, I eliminated the leg routines, plyometrics and legs / back when I got into higher mileage... I'm fairly new to distant running so my legs couldn't handle the added pressure... Your body will tell you if you are doing to much and just listen and back off when needed...0
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Dana...I actually use GNC Wheybolic Extreme...it gives me energy, 20g protein per scoop (3 scoops per serving). I currently only do 1 scoop, but will probably up it to 3 when i start. Still can't figure out how to get the fat I need. Maybe a couple pounds of olives...mmm, yum.
Lsteedly, I'll keep that in mind...I am not really new to distance, but then again...you're talking about marathon distance...distance for me is half marathon.
I honestly think that if I find that I can't do both at the same time, i will probably just put off P90X until after my Tri. But, I am trying to be optimistic. I really want to be able to do it all....but don't worry, I will listen to my body. When I wake up in the morning and can't move...I'll get the hint...maybe
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If your goal is that event and being top notch form for it , stuff like "insanity" would do you much better than p90x
P90x is a bit more focused on strength so I'd def go with a "full" cardio/endurange program like insanity
Also , unless you're on steroids , why on earth would you take 60g of proteins per "serving" it will all just get dumped away from your body , you can't synthesize it all.
Also in case you fear body exhaustion , might I recommend some Glutamine before bed on an empty stomach for fast muscle recovery (fights soreness) , some TriFlex for your recovery/pre-emptive against possible body fatigue and , if needed , a thermogenic energizing supplement like Thermo Burst hardcore (All 3 are from GNC , since you said you already get protein from them )
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Thanks for the comments. The 60g would not be in 1 sitting. I usually take 20g before an intense workout, and it works wonders for me. My plan is to do 20 before and 20 after, and then 20 more before my 2nd exercise session. So, it would be spread out through the day. Also, I am using Endurance Vitpaks from GNC, so I have all of those covered...I think. Need to look into TriFlex, but I think one of the pills handles that.
I guess I'll look into Insanity...but I have the P90X stuff, so we'll see...hate having to get another expensive workout thing.0 -
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i think insanity would much better support running goals as well0 -
Thanks, and darn, guess I'll check out Insanity then. I am pretty much setup for P90X though, so I may still try it out. Guess I should have asked all of this stuff before I committed myself to doing P90X...oops.0
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its up to you. p90x is really only one day of cardio. theres two, but kenpo x isn't a great cardio workout.
Insanity is 5 days a week cardio.0 -
I disagree on Insanity. You're already doing cardio with running, I don't see why you'd add more. I'd do the strength routines from P90X but skip plyo & kenpo.
During the summer I log long miles on off days, and 3-4 miles on days I do p90x.0 -
all depends on what your goals are
if all you want to do is be better runner, i'd say do insanity. because i don't know how all of the pull ups in p90x are going to help you run faster/better, but i'm not a distance runner so what do i know.
if overall fitness is what you want do p90x.0 -
I think it depends on what your goal is. Are you trying to PR a race, or just finish it? If you just want to finish it, do p90x and whatever else you want and don't put time pressure on yourself for the race. If you have a goal race and a PR in mind, then that should be your focus. Also, the best training schedules, from what I've read, are the ones that rotate hard/easy days. Speed work and long run days would be your hard days, and would also be the same days you'd want to do the hard p90x days, so that you can keep the easy days easy (easy run, maybe some yoga, and rest days). In order to get the most from training, you wouldn't want to do a hard p90x day on Tuesday, and then speed work on Wednesday, you shouldn't have two hard days back to back. Recovery time is as important as the hard training time if you're trying to reach peak results.0
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I did some homework to understand P90X and Insanity a little more. Since I really need to increase my overall fitness level to help prevent from my usual injuries during each year, it looks like P90X is definitely the way to go right now. Insanity appears to be very beneficial for when I start focusing more on increasing my speed with running, as HIIT seems to have a helpful effect on burst training...I just can't seem to find out how that translates to higher mileage intervals. Either way, I think P90X is my focus now, then after I have completed that, I'll look into Insanity.
I actually just did some calorie burn estimates and my new fear is how I am going to consume enough calories that are also nutritionally dense.
I found my calorie burns from 2 years ago when I was doing Crossfit, and I was burning about 300 calories per 30 minutes. P90X says around 600 calories per 60 minute session (800 for yoga!!). Couple that with 30-45 minute cardio (bike/swim/run) sessions 1 each per week and 3 long of each per week....I am looking at close to 1k + burn per day on at least 3-4 days per week...that's a lot of calories.0 -
aswearingen, I am not PR training. Definitely just doing completion still. I am still working on how to avoid back-to-back hard days. I can't seem to find that yet, as I need to technically do my long bike on Saturday/Sunday and my long run on day I don't do my long bike. I can do my long swim during a hard P90X day...just the other 2 I am struggling with. I think I should be okay in regards to easy days though. I just hope my fitness level is where I think it is...otherwise...I will be modifying P90X so I have more rest time.0
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I do not run any real distance; but I would run about 3 miles on the 3 lifting days during P90X Classic. (Mon, Wed, and Friday) I'd do P90X before breakfast and the running after work, before dinner.0
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You can do the two together I would replace the plyo and kenpo x with running. The yoga X will be great for you. Please take at least one day a week to recover. I think the lifting in P90x would be a great tool to help you train!0
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i guess i'm still not sure what you really want out of your training lol. but yeah,if you don't plan on losing weight your going to have to eat a lot more.
don't expect to gain much muscle with all those calories burnt on cardio, not that p90x is really a big muscle size builder.
idk, theres probably a canned workout program out there that will be better then p90x or insanity as far as improving your distance running time if thats perferred.0 -
i guess i'm still not sure what you really want out of your training lol. but yeah,if you don't plan on losing weight your going to have to eat a lot more.
don't expect to gain much muscle with all those calories burnt on cardio, not that p90x is really a big muscle size builder.
idk, theres probably a canned workout program out there that will be better then p90x or insanity as far as improving your distance running time if thats perferred.
Here are my goals:
1. Injury free for 2013: my legs were too weak to support impact and I was severely lacking flexibility, and got hurt really bad last year
2. I just want to complete my events: 1 Mini Triathlon, 1 Olympic Triathlon, 3 Half Marathons, 3 5ks, and 2 5 milers.
3. I want to get enough conditioning to start training for marathons next year
4. I need to drastically increase my overall fitness...full body...need it all for triathlons
5. Speed...don't care at all...this piece is so far out of my thoughts....COMPLETION is the key AND INJURY FREE
6. Get down to 160 lbs or so; need to make sure I am still eating enough and the right things so I can prevent losing muscle
7. I don't want to have big muscles...just some definition. I want to be a lean, mean, cardio machine0
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