Getting models into figthing shape

Ely82010
Ely82010 Posts: 1,998 Member
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This is an article from the NY Times. Interesting reading, specially when it refers to what the trainer (MIchael Olajider) does or doesn't allow the models to do (exercise wise), to develop a especial body type. Enjoy (or not), just don't kill the messenger.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/fashion/getting-models-into-fighting-shape.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130207&_r=0

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  • n0ob
    n0ob Posts: 2,390 Member
    yeah, <rhymes with luck> that whole world and the horse they rode in on. That stuff is just crazy to me that that's the way it is.

    That society uses that as an example pisses me off. "Real" women are so much sexier than models to me anyway.
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    You know what might be cool? If "sample sizes" at fashion shows weren't all size 0 .... we could maybe have women of all sizes model fashions, since there are more sizes than 0 in the world.


    But hey, that's me. I'm a plus size, so as much as I love fashion trends and designers, some of that stuff just isn't gonna work for me for now. So I'm biased.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    I wouldn't exactly call models good examples of health...
  • sunsnstatheart
    sunsnstatheart Posts: 2,544 Member
    It sounds like a great way to come back from a serious boxing injury and still have a good career. Good for him.
  • infamousmk
    infamousmk Posts: 6,033 Member
    It sounds like a great way to come back from a serious boxing injury and still have a good career. Good for him.


    Oh, look at that! Putting it in a positive perspective. I didn't even really stop to consider the trainer's part of it. I went straight for the models' jugulars per typical MFP standards.


    You make a good point - that is awesome for him.
  • prexiouslb
    prexiouslb Posts: 9 Member
    I thought this was an extremely interesting read! Read it last night. Thank you for posting it again.
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
    bump to read later
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    Thank you for sharing. It was quite interesting. I never thought of models being like fighters and having a "fighting" weight. Makes sense though.
  • bonsaiblossom
    bonsaiblossom Posts: 133 Member
    love love love this article. thanx!!!!
  • MireyGal76
    MireyGal76 Posts: 7,334 Member
    Interesting read, but I have never been a fan of the "high fashion model runway look"... (ETA: Maybe because I was not built to fit that class)

    But to each their own!

    Personally, I want a firm round butt, strong thighs and calves, cut abs, strong arms and back. I do all the exercises he won't let the models do.. so I'm doing the right stuff! haha
  • chunkydunk714
    chunkydunk714 Posts: 784 Member
    yeah, <rhymes with luck> that whole world and the horse they rode in on. That stuff is just crazy to me that that's the way it is.

    That society uses that as an example pisses me off. "Real" women are so much sexier than models to me anyway.

    ^^ Holla!!!
  • WillLift4Tats
    WillLift4Tats Posts: 1,699 Member
    Bump to read later.
  • JustJennie1
    JustJennie1 Posts: 3,749 Member
    . “As models, we know that we have to be, some would say, ridiculously thin,” she said. “It’s not exactly a woman’s shape, but it is high fashion.”

    SOME would say?? :noway:

    How could I ever expect to fit into the clothes that you're modeling if I don't look like I'm almost dying? Not only that but most of the time they PIN the clothes so that they fit the model properly. I have a hard time buying suit jackets and button down shirts because of my broad shoulders and back. You really think I'm going to fit into any of the stuff that they're modeling?

    Sorry but I think it's laughable that they call it "fighting shape". I can get into their fighting shape just by not eating for a few weeks. No exercise needed (that might build muscle you know).
  • Crankstr
    Crankstr Posts: 3,958 Member
    yeah, <rhymes with luck> that whole world and the horse they rode in on. That stuff is just crazy to me that that's the way it is.

    That society uses that as an example pisses me off. "Real" women are so much sexier than models to me anyway.

    :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :smooched:
  • 777Gemma888
    777Gemma888 Posts: 9,578 Member
    It sounds like a great way to come back from a serious boxing injury and still have a good career. Good for him.

    Excellent point. :)
  • 777Gemma888
    777Gemma888 Posts: 9,578 Member
    . “As models, we know that we have to be, some would say, ridiculously thin,” she said. “It’s not exactly a woman’s shape, but it is high fashion.”

    SOME would say?? :noway:

    How could I ever expect to fit into the clothes that you're modeling if I don't look like I'm almost dying? Not only that but most of the time they PIN the clothes so that they fit the model properly. I have a hard time buying suit jackets and button down shirts because of my broad shoulders and back. You really think I'm going to fit into any of the stuff that they're modeling?

    Sorry but I think it's laughable that they call it "fighting shape". I can get into their fighting shape just by not eating for a few weeks. No exercise needed (that might build muscle you know).

    Unfortunately, models and designers really have nothing to do with the 'ready to wear clothing available for the masses to purchase. If we are to consider that a decent designer needs to mill out a minimum of preproduction samples, press samples, production samples, shipping samples post the calico on a budget of $250,000 for 80 different outfits per outfit, the waif human mannequins are the only ones who can fit into them, if the average designer prefers 2 yards of fabric max. If the masses really wanted to hate and protest the popularisation of the ill-suited garments in relation to the market segment, the blame should land at the doors of the buyers. Although, if one was to look at the said buyers, they are buying for themselves and NOT the masses. Sad but true. And if their profits do not get affected, change will never happen.
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
    I wondered what became of Michael Olajide! I used to do his video workout (Aerobox) back in the mid 1990's! It was aerobic boxing before stuff like Tae Bo and kickboxing came along. It was fun and challenging, and I liked him as a trainer. :-)
  • amysj303
    amysj303 Posts: 5,086 Member
    It doesn't really say what they do, aside from jumping rope and changing it up every 90 seconds. Sounds like a bunch of cardio...
  • JuneyJo
    JuneyJo Posts: 182 Member
    It sounds like a great way to come back from a serious boxing injury and still have a good career. Good for him.

    I :heart: your attitude! :drinker:
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    It doesn't really say what they do, aside from jumping rope and changing it up every 90 seconds. Sounds like a bunch of cardio...

    What they do is a form of extreme cutting similar to what fighters (boxers/MMA/etc.) do to get into lower weight classes. It melts the fat off the body and they lose a lot of water weight. The only differences that I would imagine is that fighters spend a lot of time building the underlying muscles up so that when they do this form of extreme cut, the definition really shows. Models don't spend a lot of time building up muscle in the "off-season" so this form of cut reveals much smaller muscles.

    It's really cool that the boxer has found a way to continue a lucrative career, but I'd not enjoy the restrictions that models live with. It's draining and I'd be starving all the time. Particularly after these workouts.

    I'll keep lifting the heavy stuff in the gym because I don't particularly want a model body. Unless that model is a fitness one.
  • Ely82010
    Ely82010 Posts: 1,998 Member
    yeah, <rhymes with luck> that whole world and the horse they rode in on. That stuff is just crazy to me that that's the way it is.

    That society uses that as an example pisses me off. "Real" women are so much sexier than models to me anyway.

    You missed the point of the article dude; thank goodness that some MFP people didn’t. The intention was not to attack a particular body type; it was to show how people train different to get the results that they seek, and the reasons behind it.

    First, like somebody said, take a boxer with an injury that instead of feeling pity for himself, started a new career. The same for the dancer that cannot longer perform professional because she is not in her prime years, so she is now part of the enterprise. Great for both of them.

    Besides, not everybody (man or woman) thinks that "real" women (whatever that means), are sexier than models. We are all real women; we are no fakes, regardless of body types, color of skin or hair, size, age, etc. Or maybe, and unless they are shaped like a Greek God, man should not be called/labeled “real men” either.

    And finally, and without insulting anybody, I doubt it very much that fashion would sell if models were short (like me), and/or with a lot of curves, even if they are in the right places. Did you ever notice that most stores hang clothes in hangers or that the mannequins are very slim? I think that it is a reason for that.

    Thank you to the rest of the readers for your nice comments. We all should learn something even if we don’t “lift heavy.”
  • n0ob
    n0ob Posts: 2,390 Member
    My angst is at society mostly. I don't like that we don't have more realistic/healthy idols. I don't like that models have to restrict diets and general exercise as badly as they do (and good for their trainers for finding their niche), and I don't care for what women have to go thru to try so hard and in my view by methods that do not encourage sound health.

    My angst goes with men and idols too. Most of the physiques we idealize are not overly realistic for any length of time nor are they healthy.
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    I find it interesting and refreshing that at least one of the models says that her runway form is not the true form of a woman.

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