Doctor wants me to take diet pills
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Do not take medical advise from this site. They are not doctors. Please get a second opinion from another doctor.
No one is giving medical advise. We are speaking from our own personal experiences and many times the personal experience gives someone the courage to go to their doctor and demand tests to be done in the correct manner or be sent to an endocrinologist.
And out of compassion for another human being, I don't see where anyone that has commented here has told her anything wrong.
Diet pills are dangerous!!! There are NO safe ones. The side effects and the long term effects on the human body are not good. Drugs should always be prescribed as a LAST result, not a first result.............
Most doctors are puppets for the Pharmaceutical companies!!!
I agree. If we only responded to threads in our own expertise I would only be able to answer insurance claims questions :laugh: How boring would that be?0 -
Do not take medical advise from this site. They are not doctors. Please get a second opinion from another doctor.
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Honestly? I would seek a second opinion. If a second doctor gives the same diagnosis - fine... but when it comes to something like this don't trust the opinion of one man.
concur.
There are rare occasions when diet aids can be useful. But we do tend to be over medicated so getting another doctor's opinion is a smart way to balance the odds in your favor. Also, consider seeking the advice of a naturopathic doctor. You might find that the boost your metabolism needs can be obtained from a safe, natural alternative to the otherwise potentially risky drugs.
I am no doctor, but I do know that doctors can be flawed with biased human agendas just like lawyers and politicians and anyone else. Get a second (and third) opinion.0 -
:flowerforyou: It sounds like you have more to solve than a diet pill could possibly help with. I think a nutritionist, and even a good chiropractor would probably be able to help solve some of your health challenges. They actually study food, nutrition and how our body responds. If you are eatting healthy and not losing a diet pill isn't going to change that. I would work on solving and working with your IBS. That's why I suggest a chiropractor and a nutritionist. I have a great chiropractor who referred me to a wonderful nutritionist and it has made a huge difference in my IBS. No more cramping and no more mad dashes to the bathroom!
Plus the bonus neither one asked me to take any medications. Just a multi vitamin and some Calcium, magnesium and Vitamin D. Pretty easy.
Good health and best wishes0 -
I would absolutely agree with the concept of a second or even third opinion! I would go see a registered dietitian for the IBS and a gastroenterologist (not an endocrinologist I'd think, as they deal with metabolic issues, and this sounds more like something's wrong with your digestion and/or intestinal tract.)
Nope, I'm no doctor, nor do I claim to be anything close, but just as I say I'm no doctor, I would feel much better about the doctor who says "I'm no registered dietitian!" because most aren't.
Side note, be wary of nutritionists, some are good, but some are very bad, you don't need a degree in the US to be a nutritionist, you just need a sign over your door and a Federal tax ID. Dietitians require a degree, a state certification (in most states), and are required to stay current with that certification.0 -
Do not take medical advise from this site. They are not doctors. Please get a second opinion from another doctor.
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I see that some of you have had negative experiences concerning weight loss with your physicians, and I can understand how upsetting that is. However, not all physicians are like that. We take a nutrition course here (at my medical school) though it is not very in-depth. We are striving to learn more about the growing trend of obesity and how to help people with their diet, but our knowledge is definitely lacking on how to counsel/motivate. As such, they have taught us to lean heavily on team-based medicine, and if a patient wants to know more about nutrition or how to lose weight without medication, then we refer them to a nutritionist/dietician if they have questions that we cannot answer.
Granted, prescribing meds is the norm because honestly, that's what most people are there expecting. Most people are looking for the "magic pill" so to speak, because they work quickly. It is unfortunate that your physicians keep mentioning the pills repeatedly, but maybe they don't know what else to tell you. Maybe they don't have good resources to give you about diet and exercise, and that should be changed. America is growing increasingly overweight, and physicians need to be better equipped to deal with it--bottom line. But how does that new curriculum being to be implemented? I don't know the answer to that...
But being on here has been an eye-opener for me...I am so happy that I did this the natural way and I actually learned how to eat healthily and how to incorporate exercise into my life. As a physician, I will strive to lead those that come to me with weight concerns to websites like this one, or lead them to someone who is certified to help them. I may just be one person, but if I am changing, others can, too!
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My problem is that the medical industry seems to be for sale just like everything else. I have to question why doctors are prescribing some of the drugs that they prescribe. Not to mention, as you put it, the nutritional health part of the training is very limited and tightly controlled.0
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I have not been in your situation but know people that are addicted to diet pills and jump from one to another all the while eating badly being sedebtary and gaining even more weight.
With everything that's wrong with diet pills, I see no problem with taking Xenical for a while. It does not contain any stimulants and it works in the digestive system. It blocks some of your dietary fat from being absorbed by your intestines. This helps in both ways. It will excrete the extra fat with your bowel movement and it will force to eat lower fat because of the side effects. You can take Xenical (Alli is the non-prescription version) all the while increasing your activity levels and ;earning proper eating habits. Don't rely just on Xenical to do the job - it never works that way.
BTW I don't work for Roche (the manufacturer of Xenical).
Edited to correct spelling mistakes. I hope I got all of them. Some keys on my keyboard just don't work properly.
Xenical and Alli are not healthy for you either. It leaches the fat out of the foods and the body, which we are meant to burn, not excrete............and then in the long term, what side effects are they capable of making your body have?
Too low of fat reaks havoc on the body in terms of hair, skin and nails. We need a moderate fat intake for the body to work as nature intends for it to work, not a low fat intake.
In my opinion, there is NO diet pill, prescription or not that should be ingested.0 -
My problem is that the medical industry seems to be for sale just like everything else. I have to question why doctors are prescribing some of the drugs that they prescribe. Not to mention, as you put it, the nutritional health part of the training is very limited and tightly controlled.
Yes, I question them also regarding how quick they are to prescribe a pill to take.
I do have a family doctor and an endocrinologist, but I also seek medical treatment in the form of natural medicine from a Naturopathic doctor. My PCP and endocrinologist work together with my Naturopath to make sure that I am treating any syndrome, disorder or disease naturally first before trying any commercial procedures.0 -
Don't forget that you can always get a second opinion.
Exactly what I was going to say.0 -
Following up with some more detail in lieu of your more detailed health info...
I'd want to stay away from the pills, especially the ones that act on your digestive system (like Alli that blocks fat absorption) since you already have issues there. Not to mention, some of those side effects are gross!
The endocrinologist and gastroenterologist might BOTH be worth seeing. The endocrinologist can help verfiy the hormone balance or imbalance, you may/may not have. And the gastroenterologist can help you work with the IBS issues.
As for the nutritionist stuff, I go to a nutritional coach. She doesn't give me a list of foods and kick me out of the door. We look at a number of things and work on me as a whole person - exercise, diet, emotion, you name it. She has an education and all the nice paperwork - she's employed by the medical center.
I really think you just need to see another doctor. That's one thing WE ALL agree on.
Good luck!
PS - A very wise person once told me that the doctor you choose should be the one who's opinion you agree with most. You obviously don't agree with yours.0 -
Personally speaking, if there was such a thing as a diet pill that had no adverse side effects and cause rapid weight loss, I'd grind 'em up and snort 'em. I doubt it though.0
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Personally speaking, if there was such a thing as a diet pill that had no adverse side effects and cause rapid weight loss, I'd grind 'em up and snort 'em. I doubt it though.
ROTFLMFAO
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I have not been in your situation but know people that are addicted to diet pills and jump from one to another all the while eating badly being sedebtary and gaining even more weight.
With everything that's wrong with diet pills, I see no problem with taking Xenical for a while. It does not contain any stimulants and it works in the digestive system. It blocks some of your dietary fat from being absorbed by your intestines. This helps in both ways. It will excrete the extra fat with your bowel movement and it will force to eat lower fat because of the side effects. You can take Xenical (Alli is the non-prescription version) all the while increasing your activity levels and ;earning proper eating habits. Don't rely just on Xenical to do the job - it never works that way.
BTW I don't work for Roche (the manufacturer of Xenical).
Edited to correct spelling mistakes. I hope I got all of them. Some keys on my keyboard just don't work properly.
Xenical and Alli are not healthy for you either. It leaches the fat out of the foods and the body, which we are meant to burn, not excrete............and then in the long term, what side effects are they capable of making your body have?
Too low of fat reaks havoc on the body in terms of hair, skin and nails. We need a moderate fat intake for the body to work as nature intends for it to work, not a low fat intake.
In my opinion, there is NO diet pill, prescription or not that should be ingested.
I am not talking about taking them long term. Taking them for two months while increasing activity and learning healthy eating habits can be a great morale booster because she would lose more weight than without them. Then she can slowly wean off and continue with her newly acquired skills. In addition if her IBS causes her to be constipated the Xenical may help with that.0 -
I have not been in your situation but know people that are addicted to diet pills and jump from one to another all the while eating badly being sedebtary and gaining even more weight.
With everything that's wrong with diet pills, I see no problem with taking Xenical for a while. It does not contain any stimulants and it works in the digestive system. It blocks some of your dietary fat from being absorbed by your intestines. This helps in both ways. It will excrete the extra fat with your bowel movement and it will force to eat lower fat because of the side effects. You can take Xenical (Alli is the non-prescription version) all the while increasing your activity levels and ;earning proper eating habits. Don't rely just on Xenical to do the job - it never works that way.
BTW I don't work for Roche (the manufacturer of Xenical).
Edited to correct spelling mistakes. I hope I got all of them. Some keys on my keyboard just don't work properly.
Xenical and Alli are not healthy for you either. It leaches the fat out of the foods and the body, which we are meant to burn, not excrete............and then in the long term, what side effects are they capable of making your body have?
Too low of fat reaks havoc on the body in terms of hair, skin and nails. We need a moderate fat intake for the body to work as nature intends for it to work, not a low fat intake.
In my opinion, there is NO diet pill, prescription or not that should be ingested.
I am not talking about taking them long term. Taking them for two months while increasing activity and learning healthy eating habits can be a great morale booster because she would lose more weight than without them. Then she can slowly wean off and continue with her newly acquired skills. In addition if her IBS causes her to be constipated the Xenical may help with that.
I just wouldn't chance putting the first one in my mouth because once you start taking them, the damage is starting to occur to vital organs and then excess loss of fat will wreak havoc on the hair, skin and nails rather quickly.
To each his own.0 -
I am not talking about taking them long term. Taking them for two months while increasing activity and learning healthy eating habits can be a great morale booster because she would lose more weight than without them. Then she can slowly wean off and continue with her newly acquired skills. In addition if her IBS causes her to be constipated the Xenical may help with that.
OMG! Please do not say that it can help with constipation!
When you have IBS, the last thing you need is bound up fat shooting through your colon! IBS also causes uncontrolable diarrhea.
I had a friend who believed that xenical was what kept her regular. Her doctor perscribed it for weight loss. Needless to say, she wound up hospitalized with liver damage. O, and dependant on stimulants to go #2. Now she can't take xenical, laxitives, or drink alcohol. And shes passed 300 pounds now. I bet if you ask her, shed say it wasn't worth it.0 -
I have not been in your situation but know people that are addicted to diet pills and jump from one to another all the while eating badly being sedebtary and gaining even more weight.
With everything that's wrong with diet pills, I see no problem with taking Xenical for a while. It does not contain any stimulants and it works in the digestive system. It blocks some of your dietary fat from being absorbed by your intestines. This helps in both ways. It will excrete the extra fat with your bowel movement and it will force to eat lower fat because of the side effects. You can take Xenical (Alli is the non-prescription version) all the while increasing your activity levels and ;earning proper eating habits. Don't rely just on Xenical to do the job - it never works that way.
BTW I don't work for Roche (the manufacturer of Xenical).
Edited to correct spelling mistakes. I hope I got all of them. Some keys on my keyboard just don't work properly.
Xenical and Alli are not healthy for you either. It leaches the fat out of the foods and the body, which we are meant to burn, not excrete............and then in the long term, what side effects are they capable of making your body have?
Too low of fat reaks havoc on the body in terms of hair, skin and nails. We need a moderate fat intake for the body to work as nature intends for it to work, not a low fat intake.
In my opinion, there is NO diet pill, prescription or not that should be ingested.
I totally agree and would like to add that pills like alli and Xenical do not work well when there are digestive problems in the mix. Because of the way these drugs work they can add extra stress to the digestive system. In my case causing horrible pain and cramping, diarrhea even bleeding (I was prescribed Xenical). I will say I am no doctor, just stating what happened to me. I agree with lioness that we need some fat for our bodies to work properly.0 -
Firstly, I think there is a place for options such as sibutramine or orlistat medications in weight loss. Interestingly they have shown much better results in helping people maintain weight rather than helping people lose weight.
Pills aside, I think you have a much greater issue with your IBS and the vegetables you can't eat. IBS is such a lovely, cushy diagnosis because what it really says is 'you have some bowel symptoms and we have no idea what is causing them'. Seeing a dietitian may or may not help with this, but I would really recommend it (it cant hurt to try!). Try to see an allergy-specialist dietitian if you can. A lot of IBS type symptoms are actually due to food intolerances. Now allergies is hardly my speciality but if you are senstive to something like salicylates, amines or FODMAPS then the foods you are intolerant to may not seem to follow any specific pattern (because one thing may be in broccoli, olive oil and bread and why would you ever think to associate those 3?). A good allergy dietitian can help you work through an 'elimination diet' where you can really pinpoint any sensitivities you have.
Interestingly, I usually see people in the other boat - desperately begging their doctors for the pills and being referred to dietitian instead 0 -
I would absolutely agree with the concept of a second or even third opinion! I would go see a registered dietitian for the IBS and a gastroenterologist (not an endocrinologist I'd think, as they deal with metabolic issues, and this sounds more like something's wrong with your digestion and/or intestinal tract.)
Nope, I'm no doctor, nor do I claim to be anything close, but just as I say I'm no doctor, I would feel much better about the doctor who says "I'm no registered dietitian!" because most aren't.
Side note, be wary of nutritionists, some are good, but some are very bad, you don't need a degree in the US to be a nutritionist, you just need a sign over your door and a Federal tax ID. Dietitians require a degree, a state certification (in most states), and are required to stay current with that certification.
Steve here is what bothers me about the medical community. When you hurt your shoulder, the PCP sent you straight to an Ortho, right? He didnt try to give you a shot or diagnos the issue. He sent you to a specialist.
Mine has sent me to orthos, gyns, podiatrists.....but when I asked to see an nutritionist to lose weight he said it was not in the insurance to do so.
So a dr can write a script for meds that can cause potentially severe side affects, but cant send you to a specialist for obesity.
Slays me to think about it!
I asked the workers comp adjuster if I could go to PT and a nutritionist instead of having surgery on my neck-the answer was no.
Can you imagine where you and your wife will be in 10 years if the medical community and ins industry catch up to this problem? A nice lil clinic with trainers and dietitions and nutritionists! Oh, one can dream cant one?0
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