Net weight....calories remaining....? I'm soooo confused!

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  • corrections:
    Totally confused here too. So I used the tool and it said I need to set my goal to 1200 (Based on sedentary and 6 x45 minute work outs a week) to lose the 1-2lbs a week.

    If my calorie food intake is 1300

    Do I log my daily exercise calorie count for example -300

    plus my sedentary estimate? -1500?

    That would bring my net to -500.

    Doesn't make sense that I need to eat additional 1700 to make net of 1200.00

    Am I doing something wrong?
  • Theforce31
    Theforce31 Posts: 14 Member
    I've been on this site for a bit and you've made a lot of sense.
  • cbevan1229 you have no idea how much that helped me, ive been so confused about that, sometimes it was in the neg sometimes i had a huge number but now that i understand i can hopefully do this right lol
  • thadius65
    thadius65 Posts: 36 Member
    I think the confusion is the naming of each of the numbers. To me, GOAL means this is what i need to reach. Example as of this morning after workout and breakfast:

    GOAL - 1740
    Food - +565
    Excercise +374
    Net - 191

    1549 CALORIES REMAINING

    That is where i get confused. If my goal is 1740 and I ate +565, then I should have 1175 remaining? Or does it mean, with no exercise, you need 1740 to lose 2lbs per weak. With the exercise, you can have 1740+ exercise credits and still lose 2lbs?

    Sorry... newbie. Thanks!

    Ted
  • erinsueburns
    erinsueburns Posts: 865 Member
    I think the confusion is the naming of each of the numbers. To me, GOAL means this is what i need to reach. Example as of this morning after workout and breakfast:

    GOAL - 1740
    Food - +565
    Excercise +374
    Net - 191

    1549 CALORIES REMAINING

    That is where i get confused. If my goal is 1740 and I ate +565, then I should have 1175 remaining? Or does it mean, with no exercise, you need 1740 to lose 2lbs per weak. With the exercise, you can have 1740+ exercise credits and still lose 2lbs?

    Sorry... newbie. Thanks!

    Ted

    Yes, assuming you are not already accounting for exercise in your original goal. The exercise means you normally need to eat MORE to maintain the same deficit, ie the same rate of weight-loss. The way I have to make myself thing if it, since I am set to sedentary, is that if I add exercise to my day, I need to log and eat those calories back because I will be hitting a point where my body must eat my muscle in order to sustain itself since I am not fueling my exercise. That is way over simplistic, but it is the mindset that works for me.

    ETA: Whoops, major zombie thread...
  • aepdx
    aepdx Posts: 218 Member
    So if my goal is 1200 calories, I HAVE to eat all of my exercise calories back? I really need to get a HRM because I think MFP says I burn way more calories than I do. As long as I eat 1200 gross calories, I think I should be good.
  • erinsueburns
    erinsueburns Posts: 865 Member
    So if my goal is 1200 calories, I HAVE to eat all of my exercise calories back? I really need to get a HRM because I think MFP says I burn way more calories than I do. As long as I eat 1200 gross calories, I think I should be good.

    Heart rate monitors are good, because yes MFP can overestimate. But unless something out of the primary us going on, if you exercise you need to way at least 1200 NET and not gross.
  • PamelaGatorMom
    PamelaGatorMom Posts: 348 Member
    It's all about net calories in order to maintain a consistent calorie deficit. For example, if you told MFP you wanted to lose a pound a week, that is a deficit of 500 calories per day (a pound of fat is 3500 calories). When you exercise you burn extra calories so those are added back in in order to maintain that 500 calorie daily deficit.

    Your numbers look really good.

    I have to say after over a month of reading post this is so simply stated without all the acronyms & other words I have to google to find the meaning of so THANK YOU very much!!

    I figured I was doing good since I'm eating enough to not be hungry & still dropping the weight :)
  • does this mean i will plateau? if so, its no wonder im not seeing results...

    1268CALORIES REMAINING
    Goal Food Exercise = Net
    1220 652 - 700 -48
  • I am also new at this as I have been only doing it for just over a month. After losing 10 pounds I had to reconfigure and now I am down to 1200 calories a day. If i eat less then that I am getting a message that my body will go into starvation mode. I am eating alot and I am not hungry so i don't know why i should eat more if i am not hungry. Can anyone give me some advice to help me out. I have lost 12 pounds so far so i feel like i am doing well but do not want to hinder my weight loss either. Thanks in advance!!
  • I am also new at this as I have been only doing it for just over a month. After losing 10 pounds I had to reconfigure and now I am down to 1200 calories a day. If i eat less then that I am getting a message that my body will go into starvation mode. I am eating alot and I am not hungry so i don't know why i should eat more if i am not hungry. Can anyone give me some advice to help me out. I have lost 12 pounds so far so i feel like i am doing well but do not want to hinder my weight loss either. Thanks in advance!!

    I don have advice for you, but that I too dont feel hungry so I wont eat.
  • Imagine it's money.

    You deposited $1577 in your calorie bank (by eating.)
    You spent $421 (through exercise.)
    So currently there is only $1156 in your account (your "net")
    Your goal is to have $1290 in your account at the end of the day.
    So to meet your goal, you would need to deposit $134.

    Many folks will say you should really try not to end up with a "net" under 1200, although there is lots of debate about why that is the magic number.

    This is actually one of the best explanations of it that I've seen on here.

    Word. This is perfect.
  • cutchro
    cutchro Posts: 396 Member
    I just try to eat between 1700-2100 calories per day and don't worry about the rest.
  • jlapey
    jlapey Posts: 1,850 Member
    Your goal was to eat 1290 calories today
    You actually ate 1577 calories today
    You burned 421 calories exercising so they subtract that from what you actually ate leaving you with a "net" of 1156 calories.
    You may still eat 134 calories before meeting your goal of 1290.

    That is my understanding.
    Welcome and good luck!!!!
    Kathy

    exactly!
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    MFP sets your calories low. It doesn't assume you are going to exercise until you actually do it. Your calories are calculated so you would lose the weight without exercising.

    Now when you DO exercise, you need to have extra fuel for that, because without it, you have created too large of a calorie deficit.

    Eating too little is just as bad as eating too much, it comes with hazards and consequences. Be eating too few calories, you suppress your metabolism (so you actually burn less calories and that is the opposite of what you need when you want to lose weight). You can throw off hormonal balances, causing stress and other problems. You may create deficiencies of certain vitamins and minerals.
  • pandabratt1
    pandabratt1 Posts: 36 Member
    I still get confused with this too. I almost feel like I shouldnt eat back my calories, well...all of them that is. I understand half but I dont understand why they allow you to eat back all of what you burned? Weird.

    The reason for this is because MFP has already calculated your deficit in your initial daily calorie goal. You should eat the calories back if you are hungry since you are already below what you need to lose weight. If you aren't hungry, then don't eat them, and you will just get to your goal that much more quickly.
  • fancycatlady
    fancycatlady Posts: 20 Member
    oh noes! I have been under eating! Thanks for posting!
  • womaniam
    womaniam Posts: 104 Member
    This was such a great thread. I fully understand this now. Thanks for starting it!!
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Imagine it's money.

    You deposited $1577 in your calorie bank (by eating.)
    You spent $421 (through exercise.)
    So currently there is only $1156 in your account (your "net")
    Your goal is to have $1290 in your account at the end of the day.
    So to meet your goal, you would need to deposit $134.

    Many folks will say you should really try not to end up with a "net" under 1200, although there is lots of debate about why that is the magic number.

    Nicely put.

    OP...the MFP method does not include exercise in it's accounting for daily activity. It assumes that you aren't doing your exercise or that you aren't doing them consistently so it is set up for you to eat them...or most of them back. The goal (net) that MFP has for you already includes a substantial deficit from your maintenance level of calories built into your goal
  • MFP sets your calories low. It doesn't assume you are going to exercise until you actually do it. Your calories are calculated so you would lose the weight without exercising.

    Now when you DO exercise, you need to have extra fuel for that, because without it, you have created too large of a calorie deficit.

    Eating too little is just as bad as eating too much, it comes with hazards and consequences. Be eating too few calories, you suppress your metabolism (so you actually burn less calories and that is the opposite of what you need when you want to lose weight). You can throw off hormonal balances, causing stress and other problems. You may create deficiencies of certain vitamins and minerals.

    Can you give me a sample of what I should be eating to reach the 1200 calorie mark? If you add me as a friend you could view my diary and show me where i can adjust. I don't want it to have the opposite affect for sure. I can use all the help I can get as I have been overweight all my life and wants this lifestyle change to work.

    thanks!!
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Add some calorie dense foods, things that have more calories but are not a lot of volume of food to eat. Nuts & seeds, cook with olive oil or add it to your salads, use full fat dairy instead of low fat. Peanut butter. Avocado.
  • cassiehayley
    cassiehayley Posts: 142 Member
    Koldnomore wrote: »
    Net should be Close to goal? Help me understand please!
    Goal : 1230
    Food:1623

    Ex: -1435
    Net: 188. I thought the goal was to get the net to zero?
    Cal remaining 1042. Don't even know what to do with that! Ugh! Frustrating! Thanks!

    This means that MFP has calculated that in order to lose 1-2 lbs a week (whichever you set it up as) you need to eat 1230 calories per day. When you exercise you burn calories and they disappear from your total (1230) like you never ate them in the first place. In your example above it shows that you ate 1623 calories for the day BUT you exercised away 1435 of them (that's a TON).. they disappeared..like you never ate them so what you have left over is 188 calories that your body can use to fuel you and that's all you have. You are 1042 calories SHORT from having enough calories to feed your body. At that rate your body will not be able to sustain you for very long. You may lose a little weight but then it will stop because your body will start to react like you are starving and will fight to hold on to every pound.

    The debate is open on if you should eat back exercise calories and/or how many. It seems that many people agree that if you do not eat close to 1200 (after you subtract your exercise) you soon stop losing weight. In your case it would be suggested that if you work out as hard as you did today you will need to eat WAY more. Alternately, you can just work out less and then you don't need to eat so much!

    Hopefully that makes it more clear ;)

    Great explanation my net for today is 48 yikes not good at all then
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