Losing 0.5 to 1 pound per day...Health Risks?
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People are explaining why they haven't done what you are doing. You don't need to do something to realize it's a bad idea.
You cannot build muscle from fat. They are completely different cells. Fat cells shrink, muscle cells grow provided conditions are correct.. meaning surplus of calories, heavy heavy lifting and tons of protein.
You might not care if you are ripped when you are done but you will care when you lack muscle tone, have saggy loose skin, look pale, have your hair falling out, and have greatly lowered your metabolism. I haven't followed your plan because it's unhealthy and I know that. Don't come looking for advice if you aren't willing to accept it when it's contray to what you want to hear.
A friend of mine did pretty much what you are doing.. he was younger than you. Lost weight quickly, was left with a lot of saggy skin at the age of 20, had a greyish complexion, had devoloped issues with his heart and lungs, had very little muscle and had killed his metabolism causing him to go up and down in weight.
If you don't want anyone's advice, don't come asking for it.
This is what I was asking for. Thanks.
Do you know what sort of heart/lung issues?0 -
Sorry for the negative post that I missed.
You answered my question, and I thank you for that. I appreciate it.0 -
Well...was going to respond honestly, but you have an excuse for everything...so I smell a troll....sorry but being blunt about this. Evertime someone gives you advice, or tries to point out that you did in fact gain it ALL back..you shoot them down with an excuse...
I am not trolling, people were just not answering my question.
People are answering your question... you are just not taking any of the advice given. People didn't try what you are doing because it is not safe, healthy, or smart.
but you're not answering his question, haha! (nor are you the one person who has a friend of a friend who thinks it's a good idea and has been successful and is doing super great)0 -
Well...was going to respond honestly, but you have an excuse for everything...so I smell a troll....sorry but being blunt about this. Evertime someone gives you advice, or tries to point out that you did in fact gain it ALL back..you shoot them down with an excuse...
I am not trolling, people were just not answering my question.
People are answering your question... you are just not taking any of the advice given. People didn't try what you are doing because it is not safe, healthy, or smart.
but you're not answering his question, haha! (nor are you the one person who has a friend of a friend who thinks it's a good idea and has been successful and is doing super great)
Ugh. ::shakes head::
I thank you for your first post and the link you provided.0 -
Whilst I wouldn't recommend this approach given your stats if you are intent on what is the cusp of crash dieting then do yourself a favour and buy this:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-rapid-fat-loss-handbook
If you've ever heard of "The Last Chance Diet" you know the worst thing that can happen from extreme dieting is death. I don't think you are setting yourself quite up for that but it is something to think about...0 -
I say go to your doctor on campus and talk with him or her. People who are morbidly obese can lose a lot of weight in a short amount of time initially. There are doctors out there who put their morbidly obese patients on a 1200 cal deficit and then slowly increase calories. So, I reccomend talking to a doctor about what is right for you. I don't know about your campus, but on my campus seeing the doctor is free then you have to pay for any testing or drugs you may need, but they are usually at a discounted price. I've had my doctor do some blood work on me and what not. She's really great and always tries to encourage me to eat healthy and exercise. She also gives me tons of tips as a college student in how to succeed with these goals.0
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Well...was going to respond honestly, but you have an excuse for everything...so I smell a troll....sorry but being blunt about this. Evertime someone gives you advice, or tries to point out that you did in fact gain it ALL back..you shoot them down with an excuse...
I am not trolling, people were just not answering my question.
People are answering your question... you are just not taking any of the advice given. People didn't try what you are doing because it is not safe, healthy, or smart.
but you're not answering his question, haha! (nor are you the one person who has a friend of a friend who thinks it's a good idea and has been successful and is doing super great)
Ugh. ::shakes head::
I thank you for your first post and the link you provided.
Maybe if you acknowledge people trying to help you when they take the time to post and not make excuses as to why people's opinions aren't "answering your questions" then people won't make a joke out of what this post has become.
Good luck, hopefully this time you'll figure out what's right so you keep the 70+ pounds off for more than a year.0 -
Whilst I wouldn't recommend this approach given your stats if you are intent on what is the cusp of crash dieting then do yourself a favour and buy this:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/the-rapid-fat-loss-handbook
If you've ever heard of "The Last Chance Diet" you know the worst thing that can happen from extreme dieting is death. I don't think you are setting yourself quite up for that but it is something to think about...
Thank you for the link.0 -
Honestly? If you starve yourself to potentially lose 5 pounds a week then most likely you will find yourself back in the same place you are after your first huge weight loss in a few years. Eating at such a deficit screws with your metabolism and will cause you more problems when your older and trying to keep yourself on track. Why do you feel it's good to rush it the way you plan to? Listen to the podcasts for Fat 2 fit radio (fat2fitradio.com), they really adress the health aspects, healthy ways to lose weight, and the reality of eating healthy at a healthy calorie range.
for obese people, it really doesn't screw with their metabolism0 -
I did 1200 to 1300 calories a day for about 5 months (while working out & often didn't eat back caloried burned, so many days ended up at 1000 calories or so) & yes I had a heart attack0
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To the OP: I have been there and done that. I went from 300 lbs to about 205 lbs by eating 1000 calories a day and exercising every day (mix of weights and using the eliptical machine). Durring the first week I dropped 15 lbs, then about 3-6 lbs a week after that. It just came right off and I was psyched. The problem was I could not maintain that type of calorie loss. I ended up caving in and like a drug addict, when I fell off the wagon, I fell HARD. I can tell you as soon as I stopped, I shot right back up again. Was I as big as I was before? No, but I was close. About 265 at the most.
After that, I decided to try loosing weight a little slower. I cut my calories little by little and it seemed to work just as good. The plus side was my body got used to the calorie deficate because I wasn't trying to do it all at once. I definatly noticed a difference in the way my body looked, even if the weight wasn't dropping as fast as last time.
Now I might not be a good canidate to compare to, beacuse of the simple fact that I am alot older than you. My metabolism is alot slower than that of a 22 year old. Still though, I would suggest though not dropping your calories by so much though. Take it for experience, it will be easier to fall back into old habits if you do.0 -
I did 1200 to 1300 calories a day for about 5 months (while working out & often didn't eat back caloried burned, so many days ended up at 1000 calories or so) & yes I had a heart attack
what caused the heart attack?0 -
I lost my first 100lb in 100 days. During my weight loss my LBM went from 196lb to 204lb in 6 months.
Whilst I did this I was open and honest with the NHS dietician and my doctor. They had no problem with my diet saying that I was eating super healthy, and could afford to add in a few treats if I wanted.
You can get all the nutrients you need on a 1,200 calorie diet.
The biggest problem is that this will be so far away from what you have been doing before hand and what you will be doing afterwards that the weight loss process will teach you next to nothing about what to do in maintenance.0 -
Honestly? If you starve yourself to potentially lose 5 pounds a week then most likely you will find yourself back in the same place you are after your first huge weight loss in a few years. Eating at such a deficit screws with your metabolism and will cause you more problems when your older and trying to keep yourself on track. Why do you feel it's good to rush it the way you plan to? Listen to the podcasts for Fat 2 fit radio (fat2fitradio.com), they really adress the health aspects, healthy ways to lose weight, and the reality of eating healthy at a healthy calorie range.
for obese people, it really doesn't screw with their metabolism
False.
The obese women in this study lost, on average, 2.1kg of their FFM (fat-free mass, also known as lean body mass or LBM) on a very low calorie diet.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002604950900122X
(don't really know if you guys will be able to access it, but I can because I'm on my university campus and hooked up to the university WiFi)0 -
Sorry for the negative post that I missed.
You answered my question, and I thank you for that. I appreciate it.
If this was for me, it was not intended as a negative post - you mentioned getting a refund on your biochem class. I underlined that the info was not correct.
The rest was intended in a more joking manner after your post - I apologise if my post is seen as being negative - my intent is to provide you with the info you requested - the health risk and a very light smatter of the science behind protein synthesis.0 -
The last couple posts were more along the lines of what I was looking for. Thanks guys. I appreciate your time/help.0
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Congrats to you for stopping smoking. I think you can lose weight any way you feel. I am trying hard.0
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I only know of two people who have done it. I am sure there are more. I only dream of losing 5 pounds a week. (Age and the fact that I am female kinda work against me in weight loss.) Anyway, one of my friends is currently losing about 25 pounds a month- which is close to 5 pounds a week. He averages about 3 pounds a week in weight loss. He is gaining muscle, and has a strenuous weight training. It has been about 7 months, and says he feels great. If it works for you, and you don't feel starved go for it. Don't let people tell you what is impossible.So, why are you asking questions if you already seemingly know what you need to do? No one is trying to bash you, but seriously it's silly to ask questions and then criticize the answers from people who have experience.
Nobody indicated that they have done what I did (and plan to do). That's what I was asking for....
Thank you. This is what I was asking for.
So you were asking for what you wanted to hear to justify your foolishness? A couple of pages of people saying why you shouldn't do this but ONE "positive" response in the form of "someone I know" so not even personal experience? I'd definitely say troll0 -
I would just like to say that any idiot can lose weight--just takes determination (and I've done it many times before). What is the real achievement is doing it healthfully and keeping it off. Please, take it from me (and I have a tale of woe from all my weight-loss trials) don't wait until you've made yourself sick to get the fat off the right way.0
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You're not listening to everyone telling you that it's a BAD BAD BAD idea.
So I've got a question for you, why does your profile say "Mom on a mission" ?0 -
Honestly? If you starve yourself to potentially lose 5 pounds a week then most likely you will find yourself back in the same place you are after your first huge weight loss in a few years. Eating at such a deficit screws with your metabolism and will cause you more problems when your older and trying to keep yourself on track. Why do you feel it's good to rush it the way you plan to? Listen to the podcasts for Fat 2 fit radio (fat2fitradio.com), they really adress the health aspects, healthy ways to lose weight, and the reality of eating healthy at a healthy calorie range.
for obese people, it really doesn't screw with their metabolism
False.
The obese women in this study lost, on average, 2.1kg of their FFM (fat-free mass, also known as lean body mass or LBM) on a very low calorie diet.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002604950900122X
(don't really know if you guys will be able to access it, but I can because I'm on my university campus and hooked up to the university WiFi)
yeah, and what was their resting metabolic rate after the study compared to others average in the same mass range?0 -
If this was for me, it was not intended as a negative post - you mentioned getting a refund on your biochem class. I underlined that the info was not correct.
The rest was intended in a more joking manner after your post - I apologise if my post is seen as being negative - my intent is to provide you with the info you requested - the health risk and a very light smatter of the science behind protein synthesis.
I meant to put negative in quotation marks....Referring to the post that I didn't see that detailed a negative experience. Not sure if it was yours.0 -
Honestly? If you starve yourself to potentially lose 5 pounds a week then most likely you will find yourself back in the same place you are after your first huge weight loss in a few years. Eating at such a deficit screws with your metabolism and will cause you more problems when your older and trying to keep yourself on track. Why do you feel it's good to rush it the way you plan to? Listen to the podcasts for Fat 2 fit radio (fat2fitradio.com), they really adress the health aspects, healthy ways to lose weight, and the reality of eating healthy at a healthy calorie range.
for obese people, it really doesn't screw with their metabolism
False.
The obese women in this study lost, on average, 2.1kg of their FFM (fat-free mass, also known as lean body mass or LBM) on a very low calorie diet.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S002604950900122X
(don't really know if you guys will be able to access it, but I can because I'm on my university campus and hooked up to the university WiFi)
yeah, and what was their resting metabolic rate after the study compared to others average in the same mass range?
Where is your study/proof that "for obese people, it really doesn't screw with their metabolism,"?0 -
Well, you answered your own question in a way. How did it work out for you last time? You gained all the weight back. What do you think is going to happen this time?
Why not take a sensible approach and more importantly - use that approach on a PERMANENT basis so you're not gaining and losing weight constantly. If you "felt great" on 1200 calories then why did you regain all the weight? Because you didn't feel great on 1200, you needed (and wanted) to eat a lot more. And you did, resulting in the destruction of your previous losses.
Moderate deficit, lots of time. Give yourself a year at least. Even better - two.
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One part of me wants to be helpful and say this:
You know the answer to this already. How? You've done it before:
"College came, and I gained all of that weight back."
If you don't learn from your mistakes, you are bound to repeat them.
The other half of me wants to say:
How can someone so stupid graduate from college?
Good luck.0 -
My bet is that you aren't going to listen to any of the advice here and continue down your dangerous and unhealthy path. It is not a smart way to lose weight.
There have been so many people who have given you examples of what can/could/will happen to you should you continue down this path yet you do not want to listen or take their advice.
Since you are young you should be thinking about your health and how what you do now will affect you in years to come.0 -
You need to eat the right fats and calories and the right carbohydrates to lose weight and keep it off and build lean strong muscles.you cant starve yourself,ya you will lose weight like that and lose muscles but then it will all come back.0
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yeah, and what was their resting metabolic rate after the study compared to others average in the same mass range?
Where is your study/proof that "for obese people, it really doesn't screw with their metabolism," sociopath?
i'm refuting the minnesota starvation experiment as it applies to obese people since that experiment followed people at or near their ideal weight ranges who were on calorie restricted diets for 6 months. it only applies to people in an ideal weight range on a restricted diet for a long time.
if people are going to say that obese people restricting their diets is going to screw up their metabolism, they need to provide proof. the entire point of the starvation experiment was to show the effects of starvation AFTER the body's fat and glycogen stores were already used up. obese people don't have that problem. so why would their metabolism slow significantly if their bodies still have energy stores?0 -
ah, no. Carry on.
If this was for me, it was not intended as a negative post - you mentioned getting a refund on your biochem class. I underlined that the info was not correct.
The rest was intended in a more joking manner after your post - I apologise if my post is seen as being negative - my intent is to provide you with the info you requested - the health risk and a very light smatter of the science behind protein synthesis.
I meant to put negative in quotation marks....Referring to the post that I didn't see that detailed a negative experience. Not sure if it was yours.
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Well, you answered your own question in a way. How did it work out for you last time? You gained all the weight back. What do you think is going to happen this time?
Why not take a sensible approach and more importantly - use that approach on a PERMANENT basis so you're not gaining and losing weight constantly. If you "felt great" on 1200 calories then why did you regain all the weight? Because you didn't feel great on 1200, you needed (and wanted) to eat a lot more. And you did, resulting in the destruction of your previous losses.
Moderate deficit, lots of time. Give yourself a year at least. Even better - two.
QFT
I think I regained it because I stopped exercising and was eating pizza for dinner every day because the food in my cafeteria was disgusting. (I'm being honest here.) I stopped exercising because there was 'not enough time' with all of my studying (I had a full credit load ever semester - chem/bio double major). I also really started playing video games. That distracted me when I wasn't focused on school.
I could have kept it off, but essentially I was lazy and failed to do that. I have a pretty stable life now, so maintaining my goal weight should not be as much of a problem (I mean, I did it for about a year or so before).
At any rate, at the suggestion of most of the community, I will increase my daily intake (to about 2,000). Does that sound more reasonable?0
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