Fitness myth pet peeves...
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That makes sense I guess. I've definitely read enough know it all posts that say completely opposite things, so I'm sure there are a slew of myths being preached out there. It's hard to filter through what's accurate and what's not. It just gets frustrating when some of these are questions I honestly have had, like how do I start running? Look, I know how to run...but I have weak knees. I've read "just go for it" "just walk faster" but also have read "dont overdo it", "you need to have proper form", "you need proper shoes so you don't get shin splints and die"...so I decided to "just go for it" and then started having knee pains. But if I ask questions I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to run? And then I've been wanting to try the rowing machine, but read an article the other day about "those amateurs who don't know how to row properly". I guess what I'm just trying to say is hey at least we're trying, right? :blushing:
I have to admit this is one of the least helpful sites I've ever been on (a lot of it because of those pushing the myths and arguing with anyone who might be able to help).
. If you want help with running, give DailyMile.com a try. That is the most supportive community I've ever been part of, and I'm not even a big runner. I'm on there as jimmie65.
As for rowing, I have no idea where to get help.0 -
wait...did somebody say inject yourself with pregnant lady pee?????
I'm taking this as genuine so I will answer.
Yes. HCG is a hormone found in the urine of pregnant women. It is a prescription drug used in fertility treatments but Also has an off label use as a weight loss drug. It has not be approved as a weight loss drug and there are no solid studies to support it.
Oh and you only eat 500 calories while takin it.
Unless you get it from a doctor prescription, it is not legal for sale which means all the ones you can buy at Walmart and GNC are not real HCG (if you read the label and search the ingredients you'll see). These are usually pills or drops. Or worse...from the Internet that could be anything.
ETA - the legality of sale is for Canada and US not sure about other countries.0 -
Deadlifts are bad for your back.
Squats are bad for your knees.
Older people (i.e, those of us over 40) shouldn't lift heavy.
And not really a myth but definitely a peeve: I'm lifting heavy with these 5 lb dumbbells.
Not if performed correctly..... *rolls eyes again*0 -
and cleaning for an hour is not working out...its a part of life!
I log cleaning when I do a full clean including dusting, mopping all the floors because it's a 4 - 5 hour job and yes, I break a sweat when I'm doing it.0 -
While I'm getting things off my chest I'm going to add this one about StrongLifts/Starting Strength. It's an excellent program, especially for people that are new to strength training. But it ain't the only program. Far be it for anyone on MFP to come and ask about a different routine (that's not Wendler)
I imagine the progression to it's domination on this site went like this.
Starting Strength is an excellent program for beginning strength training
Starting Strength is an excellent program for strength training
Starting Strength is an excellent program.
Starting Strength is the Program.
Starting Strength: Do it, or YOU'RE GONNA DIE
Oh, and if you're doing direct ab work or curls you're a sucker. Can't forget that.
I just love the Luther clip!0 -
First bacon is not healthy.
A diet consisting SOLELY of bacon definitely isn't healthy. But I don't think it's unhealthy to eat bacon.0 -
Pet peeve, not a myth. I can't stand it when people say they "loose weight" IT'S LOSE0
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What drives me nuts are the diet plan claims of 5-10 lbs lost in a week. Sure, easy to lose 5-10 lbs of fluid (which can come rght back). But real FAT loss ... hello, ~3500 kcal/pound, folks. Run a marathon/day and you can REALLY lose 10 lbs fast.0
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Pet peeve, not a myth. I can't stand it when people say they "loose weight" IT'S LOSE0
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wait...did somebody say inject yourself with pregnant lady pee?????
I'm taking this as genuine so I will answer.
Yes. HCG is a hormone found in the urine of pregnant women. It is a prescription drug used in fertility treatments but Also has an off label use as a weight loss drug. It has not be approved as a weight loss drug and there are no solid studies to support it.
Oh and you only eat 500 calories while takin it.
Unless you get it from a doctor prescription, it is not legal for sale which means all the ones you can buy at Walmart and GNC are not real HCG (if you read the label and search the ingredients you'll see). These are usually pills or drops. Or worse...from the Internet that could be anything.
Ah the HCG thing...never heard it referred to as pregnant lady pee lol...and I gained weight when I was pregnant so this seems a bit counterintuitive. Ah well...the things people will try. I get being desperate to lose weight...but truly the only thing that works FOREVER is working out and eating correctly (clean, enough calories, but not too many, right macros...etc, etc., etc.). Oh that there was some magic...0 -
Top of my list: "Women shouldn't lift heavy weights or they will get bulky"
^^^ this! :explode:0 -
"Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
Actually people complaining about this saying is my pet peeve.
The context (that a 180lb person with 10% BF looks better than a 180lb person with 30% BF) makes it pretty clear that everyone is aware that we are talking "for a given equal volume of each". As far as I'm concerned people complaining about this one just want to believe that everyone else is stupid in order to have an excuse to ***** about them.
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Deadlifts are bad for your back.
Squats are bad for your knees.
Older people (i.e, those of us over 40) shouldn't lift heavy.
And not really a myth but definitely a peeve: I'm lifting heavy with these 5 lb dumbbells.
Not if performed correctly..... *rolls eyes again*0 -
Not really a myth....but a pet peeve is definitely when those of us who are new to working out or healthy living in general get reprimanded or treated like idiots for *honestly* not being aware that some of these things are myths. (I get the whole, stop posting questions on things that have already been answered - I pretty much NEVER have to post questions because I search and they've already been answered). But I don't get why everyone thinks that all of this is SUCH common knowledge and of course they've known about all of these things since birth.
And I'm really not getting why saying "I want to tone up" is such a big deal? Please explain because I definitely would like to be toned. Call me blonde, ignorant, or just plain dumb....but these things honestly discourage me from asking ANY questions and even being around fit people who clearly know it all.
Oh and pet peeve #2: People who USED to be fat and ignorant and forget where they came from and what it felt like.
Couldn't have said it better0 -
Ah, I mean I lift 15 lbs about the same amount a week, and its just toning, as long as your not lifting on top of fat, I think people think that doing crunches and lifiting is going to help you loose weight, cardio has really helped me slim down and now i lift etc.
Oh dear god.
Yeah those were my thoughts exactly.0 -
Honestly, I don't care about what other people and what they do enough to really care. People are gonna do and think what they want to, and I am not interested in wasting energy trying to correct the misinformation of the world.0
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Top of my list - that you need a heart rate monitor. And that they are totally accurate for calorie burns.
But the bulky thing is high up there.
I wouldn't say it's 100% accurate because I don't believe anything is but it's a lot more accurate than using the numbers on the machine or a random website. I bought my HRM for Insanity and it made me push myself harder and yes, when I did slack off or I wasn't feeling it the calorie burn was less. *shrugs* it works for me.0 -
First bacon is not healthy.
A diet consisting SOLELY of bacon definitely isn't healthy. But I don't think it's unhealthy to eat bacon.
I don't either. One slice is 35 calories and a couple grams of fat. I'm not eating the whole package, but I am eating bacon, tyvm0 -
You can spot reduce
You can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time (this made me sad when I found out)
Women get bulky if they lift heavy
Gaining strength and gaining muscle are the same thing
Actually, you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. Scooby has a great description on his site here:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/gain-muscle-lose-fat/
You have to be pretty precise with your eating, but you can do it.0 -
First bacon is not healthy.
A diet consisting SOLELY of bacon definitely isn't healthy. But I don't think it's unhealthy to eat bacon.
I don't either. One slice is 35 calories and a couple grams of fat. I'm not eating the whole package, but I am eating bacon, tyvm
This made me want a BLT for lunch. But I think I don't have any bacon right now.0 -
Deadlifts are bad for your back.
Squats are bad for your knees.
Older people (i.e, those of us over 40) shouldn't lift heavy.
And not really a myth but definitely a peeve: I'm lifting heavy with these 5 lb dumbbells.
I was hit by a car while walking, point of impact was my knees, I have AWFUL knees. As someone with HORRENDOUS knees I can tell you, squats are NOT bad for your knees if you have proper form. Learn how to do them correctly, with your weight in your heels and not in your toes, and your knees will be fine.
It is a myth. People just don't spend the time to learn form.0 -
Top of my list - that you need a heart rate monitor. And that they are totally accurate for calorie burns.
But the bulky thing is high up there.
I wouldn't say it's 100% accurate because I don't believe anything is but it's a lot more accurate than using the numbers on the machine or a random website. I bought my HRM for Insanity and it made me push myself harder and yes, when I did slack off or I wasn't feeling it the calorie burn was less. *shrugs* it works for me.
As for counting calories, I like it because I know it is probably under-reporting actual calories burned. I'd rather log low than log high.0 -
The you can't build muscle and burn fat is one in my head doesn't exist - erg, why not/0
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I hate the women bulking thing A LOT
BUT mostly, and it does relate to that, I hate when people say these myths to people who've been working out longer than them and who have had success....
Like, okay so you've seen me lose 30 lbs, you constantly say you'd like to have legs like mine, yet you feel the need to justify why my work out is wrong and yours is right? You don't want to do weights because you are going to bulk up... do I look bulky to you!? lol
Everyone thinks they are the expert when they begin and everyone seems to forget that different things work for different people and that everyone's goals and motivators are different as well.
If my best friend says to me one more time "no i'm not going to do pecs, I don't want to lose my boobs" or "no i am going to do an hour of cardio, not interval training because an hour will get me the results I need" I am probably going to snap lol.0 -
Everything that's ever been said on MFP.
And everything that ever WILL be said.0 -
No pain no gain...
This one is hard for me to explain b/c getting into shape certainly can be uncomfortable (and I'm telling you-trying to sit up right now is difficult cuz my abs huuuurt), but pushing on in spite of significant pain caused me some pretty serious issues with my legs that have taken almost a year to resolve. So it bothers me when I see people tell others to push on even though what they're experiencing significant pain.
ETA> people should be encouraged to seek PROFESSIONAL medical help for some things, and excerice routines can be modified in the meantime... injury doesnt mean throwing out baby with the bathwater0 -
Top of my list - that you need a heart rate monitor. And that they are totally accurate for calorie burns.
But the bulky thing is high up there.
I wouldn't say it's 100% accurate because I don't believe anything is but it's a lot more accurate than using the numbers on the machine or a random website. I bought my HRM for Insanity and it made me push myself harder and yes, when I did slack off or I wasn't feeling it the calorie burn was less. *shrugs* it works for me.
The point about pushing yourself I don't disagree with and didn't in my initial post.
Things like walking and running can be fairly accurate. Even some machines are pretty good.
HRMs are meant for steady state cardio. Intervals will affect accuracy.
Everyone assumes HRMs are more accurate but that isnt always the case. Many assumed because HRMs require more data lime sex and age that they are more accurate. And there are a lot of factors that can affect it
Azdak explains it well in a blog
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/exercise-calories-sometimes-the-cardio-machines-are-more-accurate-4047390 -
Not really a myth....but a pet peeve is definitely when those of us who are new to working out or healthy living in general get reprimanded or treated like idiots for *honestly* not being aware that some of these things are myths. (I get the whole, stop posting questions on things that have already been answered - I pretty much NEVER have to post questions because I search and they've already been answered). But I don't get why everyone thinks that all of this is SUCH common knowledge and of course they've known about all of these things since birth.
And I'm really not getting why saying "I want to tone up" is such a big deal? Please explain because I definitely would like to be toned. Call me blonde, ignorant, or just plain dumb....but these things honestly discourage me from asking ANY questions and even being around fit people who clearly know it all.
Oh and pet peeve #2: People who USED to be fat and ignorant and forget where they came from and what it felt like.
I think for many people, the peeve is not someone who doesn't know. The peeve is those who ignore reality and facts, and insist on perpetuating myths despite being given the chance to learn. If you read the responses here, there's at least one person insistent on perpetuating myths that even a little research would dispel.
That makes sense I guess. I've definitely read enough know it all posts that say completely opposite things, so I'm sure there are a slew of myths being preached out there. It's hard to filter through what's accurate and what's not. It just gets frustrating when some of these are questions I honestly have had, like how do I start running? Look, I know how to run...but I have weak knees. I've read "just go for it" "just walk faster" but also have read "dont overdo it", "you need to have proper form", "you need proper shoes so you don't get shin splints and die"...so I decided to "just go for it" and then started having knee pains. But if I ask questions I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to run? And then I've been wanting to try the rowing machine, but read an article the other day about "those amateurs who don't know how to row properly". I guess what I'm just trying to say is hey at least we're trying, right? :blushing:
When you see people in a thread seeming to get torn into over these myths you have to consider that they're almost never newbies who are just asking a question. 9 times out of 10 they're either
a.) new but presenting themselves as an expert who is going to come in and school us all (this doesn't go over well in any forum I've ever been in). The example that comes to mind is the person whose first post is a long list of foods never to eat because the cause immediate fat storage.
or
b.) not new, should know better, but continue to perpetuate incorrect information. Often these members have been involved in debates before and have already been presented with evidence that refutes their claim. Another thing that sometimes happens is that a newbie asks a question and a debate breaks out between a couple of regulars who have already been debating that topic. I've seen those get pretty ugly, but it's not that anyone is being rude to the newbie, they're just having an argument on the newbie's thread.
Your question sounds totally reasonable. If you decide to post about it, I'd just say "I've heard this, but I've also heard this other thing that seems to contradict it." I'll bet you'll get good responses.0 -
http://www.builtlean.com/2011/08/04/can-you-lose-fat-and-build-muscle-at-the-same-time/
Possible? Yes. Prudent? Not according to that ^ guy. I'm no expert but there are obviously conflicting theories out there....just like anything else you have to find what works best for you0 -
"Muscle weighs more than fat."
Anytime I read/hear this, it is like nails on a chalkboard. A pound of dirt weighs as much as a pound of feathers. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, so you can have more of it, but the two weigh EXACTLY the same.
Myth: Muscle is more dense than fat.
Truth: One cubic inch of muscle weights more than one cubic inch of fat weighed at the same time, on the same scale at the same point in space, at the same pressure and at the same temperature.
Physics wins again!
Don't make me bring in the concept of entropy!0
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