want to give up!

I Love that book (Forks over Knives)! I have hypothyroidism and have gained about 20 lbs from it (probably my old unhealthy lifestyle, too). Although, I am still by no means "overweight". A couple years ago it took me 7 months to lose 7 lbs. It was so frustrating. But since I've turned vegetarian, when I eat healthy and exercise, the weight falls off....

:flowerforyou: :happy:

YES!! This lady's on to something!!

Do you have a calorie deficit? Also you need to eat clean, I cant see your diary but the types of food you eat are just as important as the amount of calories. How many calories do you eat? Maybe its not enough or too much? Also how long have you been doing this... it can take a month or two to see results

This is not true at all......weight loss is calories in v calories out. Eating "clean" as they say, which can have multiple meanings, CAN provide you with types of foods that keep you more full thereby helping you not overeat, but it isn't in itself the answer.

Do you work out/exercise? If so, what is your routine? According to your ticker, you've lost 6lbs, which is good. How long have you NOT lost weight? Sometimes it is a matter of being consistant and patient. I know there are many people here who've stalled for weeks or months before losing again. You also might want to up your calories about 100 a week and see if that works.

Asking if she has a calorie deficit is calories in v out..... Also eating clean is important if i go to Mcdonalds every day but stay in my calorie range I wont see the results i would if i were to eat fruits and veggies and healthy food... so staying its flat out wrong... where do you get that from.. Also its not only the answer thats why i asked her many questions...

labeling some foods as "good" and some foods as "bad" is a symptom of a mental illness called orthorexia nervosa. you can be perfectly fit and healthy eating ALL of the foods that you enjoy. if you decide to limit some foods because you don't like them, or for ethical reasons (such as vegetarianism), or because you have a medical condition (Celiac's disease), or because you can't control yourself around them (Reese's Peanut Butter Cups), then that's another issue. but giving blanket advice that one must eat "clean" in order to lose weight and be healthy is what i personally disagree with. there is both anecdotal and empirical evidence that disproves the whole concept that certain foods must be eliminated from your diet in order to facilitate weight loss.

Huh then my doctors’ advice must be wrong, Thanks GUYS ill defiantly listen to your advice over hers.

doctors are people too and just as likely to be sucked into fad diets and give unhealthy dieting advice as anybody else.

case in point... Dr. Oz.

if your doctor told you to jump off a bridge, would you blindly follow that advice too?

Dr. OZ is not someone you should use as reference. He gets paid lots of money to say the things he does by whoever is promoting whatever pill he’s telling you to take or diet to buy in on....Yes I realize doctors are people just like us, however they have had education and research that build their credibility. They wouldn’t have jobs anymore if they told people to jump off bridges..... Your doctor wouldn’t say that to you, I think you just lost all your credibility by reverting to a 4th grade rebuttal. Sorry.

Im not saying that you have to be completely clean, you just need to watch what you eat because it is important to a certain extent and will help get rid of weight as you agreeed with a previous post:

"As for the quality of foods, I would suggest cutting back on the processed sugars and carbs."

"i actually agree with this suggestion... not because there is anything wrong with those foods. i just find that foods like these are trigger foods for me, and i suspect they would be for others as well. they tend to fuel my hunger instead of satiating it. i still eat some amount of these foods, but i try to limit the amount of them that i have in the house. "

Try grossing between 1400-1500 every day, consistently, for a couple of weeks and see what happens.

1400-1500 might be to little if you are working out. You could reach for those numbers on your rest days but if you are working out, you might need 1,000 or so more calories. If you work out effectively, those extra 1,000 won't affect you. In fact, it will help you out when you are in the gym.
Have you tried strength training? Muscles help burn off more fat and calories in the long run than endurance exercises (such as cardio). Don't get me wrong, I love cardio. It gives me faster results than strength training, but building lean muscle helps your metabolism and your metabolism is what burns the fuel.

Dr. OZ is not someone you should use as reference. He gets paid lots of money to say the things he does by whoever is promoting whatever pill he’s telling you to take or diet to buy in on....Yes I realize doctors are people just like us, however they have had education and research that build their credibility. They wouldn’t have jobs anymore if they told people to jump off bridges..... Your doctor wouldn’t say that to you, I think you just lost all your credibility by reverting to a 4th grade rebuttal. Sorry.

Im not saying that you have to be completely clean, you just need to watch what you eat because it is important to a certain extent and will help get rid of weight as you agreeed with a previous post:

few GPs have extensive nutritional/dietary knowledge. they are susceptible to giving the same "conventional wisdom" advice as anyone else. if you go to a GP who happens to personally believe in "clean eating", then of course that's what she's going to recommend to all of her patients. that doesn't mean that she's right. it just means that she feels the advice is right. many other GPs would tell you not to worry too much about that.

i wasn't attacking you, i was just disputing the advice that "clean" eating is essential for losing weight.

there are many, many people here who can tell you from experience that's not true. there are studies that can be cited showing as much. that doesn't mean you can't eat clean if you want. all it means is that not eating clean isn't automatically a deal-breaker when it comes to weight loss.

I've been there. It's frustrating for sure. I try to focus on what IS changing and how healthy I'm becoming. Add me if you'd like another buddy.