A NONJUDGMENTAL question about drinking
mommared53
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Ok, I asked a question on another thread and someone got offended by a comment I made so I'm going to start my own thread. Please understand I'm just curious about something and I'm sincerely not trying to stir up trouble or be judgmental. That said, my question is for those of you who drink. Can you relax or unwind without drinking and what do you get out of getting drunk? That's just something I've always been curioius about.
Please understand this is coming from someone who hasn't drank in over 30 years since I became a Christian. I never drank much before that and have only been drunk twice in my life and both times I don't remember anything.
Can I get some input on this without a lot of controversy? If not, I'll just delete the thread myself. Thanks for anyone who wants to comment on this.
Please understand this is coming from someone who hasn't drank in over 30 years since I became a Christian. I never drank much before that and have only been drunk twice in my life and both times I don't remember anything.
Can I get some input on this without a lot of controversy? If not, I'll just delete the thread myself. Thanks for anyone who wants to comment on this.
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fist of all for me there is a big difference between drinking and getting drunk. a glass of wine with dinner is delicious. a cocktail or two is a mild relaxer, it calms me down from stresses and pressures of the day or even of socializing. Getting drunk is not the reason for me to drink. enjoying the flavor of various alcholic beverages and the mild relaxation benefit is my reason. It frustrates me that I can't have more wine without getting drunk I hate to be drunk and I don't go there anymore but I love the taste of wine. Please be careful assuming that anyone who drinks and enjoys alcohol is just trying to get drunk.0
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I wish you luck in finding answers to your questions, just keep an open mind, that others may find offense to this, as they may personally have a problem, or someone close to them does. People will react on life expierences. I actaully don't drink/don't smoke. I have kids and just don't find it appropriate to have around them. Period. I know you said not to answer if you don't fall into that category... hehe sorry!!!0
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I've been thinking this one over, as I do drink in varying degrees but often. I think the best answer I can give you is thay while there are certainly other ways to unwind, they do not provide the same type of relief. For example, exercising may in fact provide stress relief, but I do not feel the same after a trip to the gym as after a drink or two. I could have an hour long full body massage and feel like jello (in a good way) afterward, but again, I guess it's just not the same.0
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rjadams, thank you for your input. I understand not everyone drinks to get drunk, but I do know people who say they can't wait for the weekend so they can get drunk.
I don't really care if people want to drink for whatever reason as long as they'r'e responsible. I'm just asking because I'm curious. When I hear people talking about looking forward to getting drunk I always feel like the only two times I've been drunk, I must had done it wrong. :laugh:0 -
to be fair, the other thread was a question about low-cal alcoholic options and it seems inappropriate comment on that thread with a question about why people drink. For many of us, socializing and gathering with friends is closely associated with eating and drinking. Dieting is about learning how to handle living your life without over-doing it in those areas. and maybe it is a problem that drinking alcohol is associated with having a good time, or being on vacation, but that is the reality for most of us.0
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I think you're over-thinking the situation. It's like asking: can't you celebrate Christmas without presents and still have fun? Some people certainly do and have fun regardless but quite a few people simply enjoy it more with presents, hehe.
Some people enjoy relaxing and unwinding with a drink more than without. And some people enjoy waking up to a cup of coffee in the morning. :ohwell:0 -
I second what someone else said. I drink alchol occasionally because it's good. Red wine's are bold and delicious. They have a wonderful aroma and paired with a great steak, it is a treat for my tastebuds......a refresing beer (non alcoholic beer tastes nothing like it), or high quality vodka with a little water and ice ..crazy idea....it's actually a nice tasting beverage!!!...that's the bottom line...same reason I eat chocolate or eat macdonalds every now that even thought it's bad for me..I enjoy the taste...for me....my intention is NEVER to get drunk...maybe when i was a teenager...but as an adult, it's never my intention. What happens is, I don't eat enough, or I get caught up in what's going on and don't pay attention to HOW much I'm drinking...and before I know it...opps...I'm a little tipsy and then by that point my judgement is blurred and I don't see anything wrong with a few more....and then I get drunk and regret it in the morning...hahaha...that's only happened once this year...on my birthday!!! of course...
When I was a teenager though it was different, peer pressure, being uncomfortable with who I was and feeling socially akward, needing alcohol to loosen me up because i didn't feel comfortable talking to people...well..those were the reasons when I was a kid...but I'm a grown up now and don't NEED to drink.....or WANT to be drunk....if i could take a pill and only enjoy alcohol without being drunk...i'd do it in a heart beat!!!!0 -
I'm not a big drinker, but I really enjoy a glass of red wine or a good beer with dinner. Being able to unwind is a nice benefit of course, but there are definitely other ways to do so, at least for me. Yoga is definitely really helpful for that, or taking a walk, or anything physical really. The few times I've been drunk have been unintentional and NOT fun, but I suspect there's a difference between a pleasant drunk and the kind that is scary, out of control, or makes you sick.0
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Sugar, that's fine. I didn't mean non-drinkers couldn't respond. I just put the question out there for drinkers because they do the drinking.
Surlydave, thanks for your input on the subject. Your answer really makes sense to me. Not that I'm going to start drinking but it helps me understand the drinking to relax issue. :flowerforyou:0 -
to be fair, the other thread was a question about low-cal alcoholic options and it seems inappropriate comment on that thread with a question about why people drink. For many of us, socializing and gathering with friends is closely associated with eating and drinking. Dieting is about learning how to handle living your life without over-doing it in those areas. and maybe it is a problem that drinking alcohol is associated with having a good time, or being on vacation, but that is the reality for most of us.
I agree with this that learning this new lifestyle for me I am learning how to incorporate drinking into it. I couldn't give you a good reason why I do. I don't drink to get drunk or get hammered. Sometimes it just happens. Most of the time not but it does happen. I don't do it for the feeling or because I have more fun. I have just as much fun sober as I do drunk. I drink the beverages I choose because they taste good. They do help me relax. There are other ways to help one relax. Sometimes people just really crave a cold beer or a margarita on a hot summer day. For me, I grew up around family gatherings and people drinking. Not heavily but drinking. So this is how I grew up to socialize with friends and family. Food and booze. It's not for everybody but it works for me.0 -
I think you're over-thinking the situation. It's like asking: can't you celebrate Christmas without presents and still have fun? Some people certainly do and have fun regardless but quite a few people simply enjoy it more with presents, hehe.
Some people enjoy relaxing and unwinding with a drink more than without. And some people enjoy waking up to a cup of coffee in the morning. :ohwell:
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its a social lubricant.....
helps me forget or at least slowed all the issues running around in my head and
I enjoy having a couple beers with my husband or friends relaxing, Dancing, singing
there are different kinds of drinkers, just like there are different types of personalitys
some people need that time to forget all their drama and be them selves.
I dont think most people dont have a mission to get drunk, it just happens
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Jesus turned water into wine @ a wedding for a reason. Alcohol is meant to be enjoyed along with everything else in moderation. It's like asking, why do youeat? There's many facets to that answer. Well, it tastes good, it makes me feel good, and it gives my body what it needs. And sometimes a glass of wine may be just what I need just like I may need a cup of coffee to get me going in the morning.0
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I like drinking. To get drunk... it's can be a fun time. I do not really enjoy the taste of delicious wine or whatever... I pretty much drink socially not because "it tastes great."
Now drinking too much and blacking out... that is NOT a fun time. Well not always...
I guess if you've only drunk and blacked out and woke up terrible in the morning I could see why it wouldn't make sense.
That said, I like drinking to get drunk. I don't really know what else to say... the question is kind of broad.0 -
I never used to drink until I found Satan. Now I drink all the time, and jaywalk too.... Kidding, I kid...:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:0
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I appreciate everyone'c comments and thank you for not letting this get out of hand, Maybe on the other thread I kind of "leaped before I looked" so to speak but I didn't really mean it to be judgmental or controversial. I was honestly just curious. Again thanks to everyone for responding. :flowerforyou:0
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I think in my whole life I've been drunk maybe 5 times. I think the last was an employee party which I really didn't want to go to in the first place. One of my jobs is at a resort/bar and it was free. There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting drunk once and awhile. We are all human and we have the right to choose what we do with our lives as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. Those that do not abuse drinking there are probably many reasons that I'm not even aware of but from my own personal experience I can give you the following.
I average 2 drinks a week. I never drink just to get drunk. I only drink something that I like the taste of or I have a craving for a cold beer. I mostly have one or two drinks at a time. At that time it's either at a meal or maybe my body hurts from work and I've had a really rough day. It's really no different than popping tylenol. When I did get drunk mostly it's because you get caught up in the moment. You're in a large group of people, you feel more relaxed and willing to talk. I am usually a shy person but when i've had a few I noticed at the employee party I recently attended that I was much more willing to participate in what was going on. It's just a stress reliever for most people and there is NOTHING wrong with that. Some people gamble, some people eat food, some people exercise, some take perscription/oc medication and some people drink. There is nothing wrong with Any of those things unless it's abused.0 -
fist of all for me there is a big difference between drinking and getting drunk. a glass of wine with dinner is delicious. a cocktail or two is a mild relaxer, it calms me down from stresses and pressures of the day or even of socializing. Getting drunk is not the reason for me to drink. enjoying the flavor of various alcholic beverages and the mild relaxation benefit is my reason. It frustrates me that I can't have more wine without getting drunk I hate to be drunk and I don't go there anymore but I love the taste of wine. Please be careful assuming that anyone who drinks and enjoys alcohol is just trying to get drunk.
I had to laugh when I read this because, I too get frustrated when I can't have anymore wine because I start feeling "too buzzed". I think that a good indicator that we are not alcoholics. I love wine just like I love chocolate. I thinks it's about the taste combined with the way it makes you feel.0 -
Sugar, that's fine. I didn't mean non-drinkers couldn't respond. I just put the question out there for drinkers because they do the drinking.
Surlydave, thanks for your input on the subject. Your answer really makes sense to me. Not that I'm going to start drinking but it helps me understand the drinking to relax issue. :flowerforyou:
Woo Hoo, I'm making sense today!!!0 -
I, too, am a Christian and I don't believe drinking is necessarily "wrong". I too believe that our bodies are temples and we should treat them as such and that includes not beating it up with alcohol and foreign substances. When I drink, I try not to drink too much and when I do, it's usually something with a very low alcohol volume percentage. I've only been drunk once, when I turned 21... I didn't get a hang over and I didn't lose my inhibitions or do anything embarassing. I had complete control over my body (which I think one should have) and remember everything that happened.
I also like to watch how much I drink since it does put a damper on my weight loss. Usually drinking for me, is just to have something else with my dinner. I only like to drink things that taste good. It's not necessarily about the feeling, so much as the taste. I love just relaxing on the couch with a cold Smirnoff ice with my chicken. It's like 4% so I'd have to drink about 10 to get drunk and they're WAY too high calorie to drink more than one! haha0 -
Personally, I love the taste of a glass of Reisling wine. The taste is my favorite part about it, but the relaxing aspect can be nice too. Sometimes it's like taking a big breath and just letting it out.
As for getting drunk, that isn't something I do often. However, occasionally it's nice to have your inhibitions lowered within a group of friends and do things you might not normally do - like sing playing Rock Band, dance at a club or just open up with friends and talk about things.
Each person is different, but some people enjoy just letting loose, relaxing or savoring the taste of a good alcoholic beverage.0 -
I am not a "drink to get drunk" person. I know at the weight I am, I can have 2 drinks, comfortably. When I was 15 lbs fatter, I could have 3 drinks. After that, dizzy & uncomfortable. I do like the taste of beer, wine, and many various cocktails; martinis in particular. I have never understood people who claim that they only drink beer or wine, but not hard alcohol. They are all the same. I love bourbon, gin & vodka drinks. They are delicious. Not so crazy about rum, and can get sick of margaritas/tequila pretty quickly. Drinking is a social lubricant. When drank in moderation, it can stimulate conversation and get people to reveal more of themselves than when they are sober and more guarded. The key is MODERATION. All cultures in society have drinks that are custom. My parents are fundamentalist Christians. They can be pretty judgmental about drinking. They make assumptions about a person based on whether or not they drink. This is not fair. I don't HAVE to drink. I CHOOSE to drink. I have a 20 year marriage and 4 well-adjusted kids. If my drinking interfered with any of that, I could, and would, stop.0
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I actually love the taste of beer,I also love that buzz you get after about 13 of them:drinker:
Everything is better after a few cold ones,sports ,conversations ,weddings ,birthdays ,beaches , golf ,lawn mowing ,swimming ,sex ,etc ,etc0 -
I think you're over-thinking the situation. It's like asking: can't you celebrate Christmas without presents and still have fun? Some people certainly do and have fun regardless but quite a few people simply enjoy it more with presents, hehe.
:drinker: You read my mind.0 -
especially golf lol0
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especially golf lol0
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I actually love the taste of beer,I also love that buzz you get after about 13 of them:drinker:
Everything is better after a few cold ones,sports ,conversations ,weddings ,birthdays ,beaches , golf ,lawn mowing ,swimming ,sex ,etc ,etc
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I agree..especially the lawn mowing!! I come from a country full of binge drinkers..there is something cultural as well as social about drinking. When I worked in investment banking it was damn near compulsory to get totally drunk every day. Now I drink every so often to relax and, like you say, because it tastes good!0 -
I actually love the taste of beer,I also love that buzz you get after about 13 of them:drinker:
Everything is better after a few cold ones,sports ,conversations ,weddings ,birthdays ,beaches , golf ,lawn mowing ,swimming ,sex ,etc ,etc
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I agree..especially the lawn mowing!! I come from a country full of binge drinkers..there is something cultural as well as social about drinking. When I worked in investment banking it was damn near compulsory to get totally drunk every day. Now I drink every so often to relax and, like you say, because it tastes good!
You're not from Wisconsin are ye?:noway:0 -
I never used to drink until I found Satan. Now I drink all the time, and jaywalk too.... Kidding, I kid...:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
This cracked me up....sorry!0
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