BEYOND Frustrated!!!

melonclarinet · February 2013

So, I posted about this a while back and have experimentd and nothing seems to be working.

I have lost about 40 pounds in a little over a year. BUT, I haven't lost any weight since June. From June to October I actually lost about 10 pounds, but then it INSTANTLY came back. Like, I gained 5 pounds in a week.

I am cooking most of my own meals (and measuring everything with measuring cups and a food scale) and wearing a HRM for my workouts, so I know what I'm actually burning. Before I was also wearing a FitBit and using the adjustments from it...now I wear it just to see my activity level, but I only track my actual exercise calories from my HRM. I workout 4-6 days a week depending on how busy I am and how my body feels.

I have tried eating my exercise calories back...I gained weight. I tried eating half of them back...I stayed the same. I tried eating none of them back...nothing happened except I was hungry. Now I am eating when hungry, but making sure to eat at least 1200 calories and trying to get my fruits and veggies in.

I took my measurements, and they are also not moving, so it's not just gaining muscle.

What advice do you all have for me? Help!!! Please

I'm very frustrated and am fighting the urge to not work as hard at it.

My diary is open.

c2hrist3a · February 2013

It seems like you are over in your sodium regularly (I just looked at the last week). That could keep you retaining water and not losing. Also-I don't know that you are eating enough calories. Especially for the frequency with which you are exercising. One other thing. I think you should make sure to hit your protein and fiber marks because then you wont be so hungry during the day.

Just suggestions...

melonclarinet · February 2013

Usually I'm not over on the sodium. That has just been the past few days (I made some food using canned foods instead of fresh...oops).

I'm eating over 100 grams of protein a day and usually over 20 in fiber as well. I'm not hungry throughout the day. The only meal I'm usually pretty hungry for is lunch, because I have to wait for it for a long time; that's why I usually have a snack.

Anna800 · February 2013

I think you'e not eating enough. You need a larger breakfast. Also I saw that yesterday you burned 1000 calories but you only ate 1200 calories. Your body needs that fuel for that much exercise, plus eating more will help you to lose weight.

melonclarinet · February 2013

Thanks guys. I think I'm scared to try eating more; I tried it and gained weight. It scares me, because I don't want to go back to where I was.

Oh, I guess I should have also said what kind of workout I do. I usually do 30-60 minutes of cardio on the treadmill or eliptical (usually closer to 30) and then lift weights for 30 minutes. Sometimes I will also do a circuit afterwards.

jstout365 · February 2013

I know a lot of people use HRM's for calorie burn rates, but it could be overestimating a bit. What exercise are you doing? Have you been doing that for a long time? It may be time to mix things up in the exercise department.

UsaJewels05 · February 2013

I also kinda stalled the month of Dec and some of January. I am 5'11 and currently weigh 247 lbs! The first 30 went pretty fast, but then just kinda slowed. I exercise now 6 days a week. 5 days for about 45-60 minutes each day and 1 day for 30 minutes. I was eating between 1300-1600 when Iost the first 30 lbs. I recently just upped my calories to 2000, and have been eating between 1800-2000 most days, and not eating back my exercise calories cause they are calculated into my TDEE.

Try following this and seeing it that helps. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12

The first 2 weeks I gained, but the last 2 weeks I have lost about 2 lbs both weeks. I would recommend trying it for at least a month to see if it helps.

You can get through this.

akaMrsmojo · February 2013

I doubt you are gaining fat when you eat more. I tend to retain water when I switch up my routine or change my calories. Iwould use the TDEE calculator and switch things up.

Flowers4Julia · February 2013

I know this seems counter-productive, but you are not eating enough. I would assume that your body as adapted to eating too few calories and has stalled out, learning to live on what you feed it. It really does happen, it is how we survived in famine times.

What is you BMR? What is your TDEE?

Never eat below the BMR and maybe try what a lot of us have had success with and eat at your TDEE minus 20%.

Check out the "In Place of a Road Map" group for more info/support.

Also, the "Eat More To Weigh Less" Group.

Lots of great stuff there that goes beyond the 1200 MFP plans.

melonclarinet · February 2013

I listed my routine above. I have mixed it up. I was only doing eliptical and now am running. I also have added heavier weights and changed some of the things I do with weights.

mallen404 · February 2013

I think you'e not eating enough. You need a larger breakfast. Also I saw that yesterday you burned 1000 calories but you only ate 1200 calories. Your body needs that fuel for that much exercise, plus eating more will help you to lose weight.

This... I upped mine and I am starting to lose again. I eat around 1400-1500 a day.

Calculate your TDEE

minizebu · February 2013

What is your height, weight and age?

Flowers4Julia · February 2013

Thanks guys. I think I'm scared to try eating more; I tried it and gained weight. It scares me, because I don't want to go back to where I was.

If you up your cals, it will be temporary water weight, seriously check out the whole "reset" idea. I did, it worked, but you have to have patience and info!

THE 2 BEST posts on MFP:

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/813720-spreadsheet-bmr-tdee-deficit-macro-calcs-hrm-zones

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/521728-upping-cals-what-to-expect-why-you-need-patience

Aparz1 · February 2013

I wish I had the answer.... I'm going through the exact same thing. I burn between 800-1200 cals at the gym daily and eat what I think is fairly healthy with the exception of 1 meal a week.... lost about 65lbs in my 1.5 yrs. now at a stand still. Was hoping someone had the answer so for those giving feed back feel free to send me a message too

tmauck4472 · February 2013

Have you ever tried fasting? Read Eat Stop Eat. It tells you why you fast and the benifits from it. I do it twice a week and as you see it hasn't hurt my weight loss any. Just did it yesterday as a matter of fact. Feel free to contact me about it. I truly found it to be very easy to do and lost 5 lbs the first week I fasted and I ate everyday. If you start your fast at 12pm one day it ends at 12pm the next day and you still eat your 1200 (or whatever it is) calories for the rest of the day. I usually stop eating between 4 and 6 pm and don't eat again till 4 or 6 pm that next day. Even if you stop at 6pm and eat again at 9am that's 15 hours and enough time to get some of the benifits in. Try it and see. I thought I would be starving but I wasn't. I get hungry but drink water instead of eating and it helps.

Try it

juliemouse83 · February 2013

I know this seems counter-productive, but you are not eating enough. I would assume that your body as adapted to eating too few calories and has stalled out, learning to live on what you feed it. It really does happen, it is how we survived in famine times.

What is you BMR? What is your TDEE?

Never eat below the BMR and maybe try what a lot of us have had success with and eat at your TDEE minus 20%.

Check out the "In Place of a Road Map" group for more info/support.

Also, the "Eat More To Weigh Less" Group.

Lots of great stuff there that goes beyond the 1200 MFP plans.

^^ THIS ^^

I know how weird it seems to be eating more to lose, but it works. I am having a hard time with it, too, but I'm doing it, and the numbers are falling. I keep waiting for them to stall out or go up, but they aren't.

rhall9058 · February 2013

Don't be scared off by eating more. You have to fuel your body for it to work properly. 1500 would be an absolute minimum, especially given how much your working out!!! Subtract by adding is what I see. Add the fuel your body needs in calories and the weight will subtract. Without that, it's just storing fat, cause it doesn't know what your doing next.

Also, water and potassium on the days you feels your going over on Salt. Those two will off-set the salt and flush it out. Make sure your keeping an good count on those.

tmauck4472 · February 2013

UGGGGGG EAT MORE EAT MORE, pssssssh *sigh* it's NOT always the right answer

mychellelynne · February 2013

Also, I have noticed that MFP is way off in the amount we actually burn during exercise. Try a heart rate monitor to get a better picture of what you are really burning. Mine was off by nearly 50%.

Bruce_Rickey · February 2013

I feel your frustration. My weight loss is so sporadic. I will loose a lot of weight and for no rampant reason, gain several pounds back. I have learned that I must keep at it during those weight gain periods and then I will loose weight again then gain again and loose again. The important thing is that I loose more than i gain. I have also learned that when these weight gain periods happen that I have to mix things up to initiate a renewed period of weight loss. Some times a very long and energetic hike, (several hours) on a wooded trail will do the trick sometime eating only 600 calories for one or two days will also do the trick. What I have been told is that by mixing things up the body has to react and reset itself. Mixing it up seems to be the ticket. Also, on occasion, I will eat 3.000 to 4000 calories in a single day followed by a couple of the 600 calories days. This also believe it or not seems to work for me. The key here is: For Me. Try it and see if it works for you.

Tuten210 · February 2013

I've stalled since the end of last year too... but what has been helping me is eating meals that are somewhat equal in caloric intake...evened out throughout the day to meet my calorie goals. Drinking LOTS of water. trying to lower my sodium overall...even though somedays i've gone over. But i seem to be losing weight again...I've def. lost inches. Hopefully these tips will help you out. Good Luck!!

chels0722 · February 2013

Yes, watch your sodium, it is possible it is just water. But also, i think you need to be eating more. Or if you aren't comfortable with upping your calorie intake, at least eat back a minimum of half of your calories burned. The closer you get to your goal, the more you will need to eat to maintain. Start out slow, you don't need to jump into upping your calories, and it is possible that you might see a slight gain when you start. But be patient. It will take time for your body to adjust to getting more calories and nutrients. You will see a bigger difference in inches than weight. So put the scale away for a while

allaboutthecake · February 2013

I bounced around your food diary. Your sodium & packaged food is what is keeping your scale at the same blasted number. Try eating very very clean for a week with nothing "pre" made, cooked, boxed, sacked, or frozen.. Hit each food group, stay within portions, stay away from meat with added sodium (even so-called fresh) and read every single label you get your hands on. Keep up your cardio workouts and consume so much water you think you are drowning. Don't drink anything else except water. (Coffee/tea in the a.m.? that's fine just a few cups). No sodas, juice, energy drinks, nada. See what happens. It takes discipline but if you try it for just a week, that should get your scale to budge. And then, try it for another week. keep track of your daily categories on a paper if you must, so you don't overeat one group vs the other (say fruits/carbs vs veggies.)

HTH

hollythomson0482 · February 2013

Doing only cardio won't burn fat like weight lifting will! When you do cardio, you only burn calories while you're physically doing the workout. When you lift weights or do any sort of weight training, you can burn calories for hours & hours after the workout is complete! And you'll feel stronger

You've already lost 40 pounds, so be proud of that and keep up the good work!

jstout365 · February 2013

I listed my routine above. I have mixed it up. I was only doing eliptical and now am running. I also have added heavier weights and changed some of the things I do with weights.

I think I was posting while you posted the routine :happy:

Have you considered high intensity intervals? A youtube search for "HIIT workout" produces a lot of videos. You can do those on the treadmill/elliptical or as part of core or strength training. I know you said circuits, but these would be like 30 second intervals at max intensity.

Violettarheel · February 2013

Biggest thing that jumps out at me on the food diary is the Dannon yogurt. Try switching up to Greek yogurt (plain, non-fat, add your own fruit and a drizzle of honey for sweetness, if you want). The hidden sugar in the yogurt (and possibly other foods) could be slowing you up.

I agree with others who say you aren't eating enough. Twelve hundred calories a day for a woman is bare minimum. Your body could think it's in starvation mode, and that's why you're not shedding pounds.

As for exercise don't be afraid to lift heavy in the gym (working up to it, of course). Muscle is your secret weapon and building more of it will allow you to burn calories when you're not even trying. Also, you commented that you do weights after cardio - try switching that up too. Cardio on the front end of the workout can deplete your energy for weight training thus making it difficult to get the most out of your workouts. Separate your cardio and weight days in the gym or hop on the treadmill after giving the weights your all.

Hope this helps - and don't get frustrated. You can do it!

PetulantOne · February 2013

How long did you stick with a change before you decided it wasn't working?

Your protein and fats looked good on the days that you ate at least 1,200 calories. Have you calculated your TDEE? My guess would be your not eating enough. Do you not log on the weekends often?

PetulantOne · February 2013

Thanks guys. I think I'm scared to try eating more; I tried it and gained weight. It scares me, because I don't want to go back to where I was.

Oh, I guess I should have also said what kind of workout I do. I usually do 30-60 minutes of cardio on the treadmill or eliptical (usually closer to 30) and then lift weights for 30 minutes. Sometimes I will also do a circuit afterwards.

It takes time for your body to adjust. You'll most likely gain "weight" the first week or so just from fluid retention.

PetulantOne · February 2013

Also sodium isn't going to keep you from losing fat. It might make the scale jump around (again water weight) but if your eating properly it won't effect fat loss.

getfitnat11 · February 2013

I agree with others that have suggested you should eat more. There are a couple of days in your diary where you didn't eat at all!! I have often read and heard that not meeting your body's nutritional requirements can make your body hold onto fat instead of burning it, and eating at more frequent intervals keeps the metabolism going. I only skimmed through your log but I would invite you to consider adding more fruits and vegetables, your body might need the nutrients and is possibly holding onto the weight because it doesn't want to starve. Certain fruits and veggies also have the capacity to help the body eliminate toxins, remove fat from the cells, and provide more energy (which it sounds like you need because of your job). Aside from all that it just sounds like you are just really stressed out and being very hard on yourself, which could also make you hold onto or gain weight. I hope you are celebrating all the weight you have lost and the progress you have made. I wonder if you are taking some time during your busy week to relax and do something special for yourself? Tell yourself how beautiful and amazing you are for all of the hard work you do? I know it sounds crazy but it might be just what you need. Good luck

melonclarinet · February 2013

According to the "In Place of a Roadmap" (Fat2Fit) websites listed I just figured out that my BMR is 2152 and my TDEE is 2425...but when I use other sites for BMI I get anywhere from 1300-1600. I just did these numbers again today (because I had gone with a number that said 1200 from some website before). Several other websites put my TDEE at about 2100

2152 seems REALLY high for BMR.

BEYOND Frustrated!!!

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