Why do so many ppl think [controversial topic]? (NOT DEBATE)

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  • penrbrown
    penrbrown Posts: 2,685 Member
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    I just have alot of really BIG opinions that I like to state as facts.

    Right now I'm just really focusing on LOVING myself.

    And hating everybody else.

    http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ca/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html

    Penr wins the thread. Only person to post a link. Ask the rest of y'all are peddling bioscience

    Look, we can sit here all day and let you post links which I'll refute with by repeating my same opinion over and over again, maybe sometimes even WITH WORDS CAPITALIZED. The simple fact remains that I'm right on this, and you're just wrong. The studies are a joke.

    You two keep fighting please. I am objectifying you by enjoying your profiles pictures. in fact, I think if you post before and after pictures (preferably in very little clothing) this debate will be cleared right up.

    Inserting generic pic up line followed by

    :wink:

    Highly inappropriate PM followed by a friend request.

    :P
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    *grumble*hijackers*grumble*

    :grumble:
  • live2dream
    live2dream Posts: 614 Member
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    I'm annoyed now that people think being veg is so hard. It's not hard at.all. in my opinion. and there is no such thing as being protein deficient unless you are starving to death (which is actually being calorie-deficient)

    REPEAT, THERE IS NO MEDICAL TERM FOR BEING PROTEIN-DEFICIENT!!

    Kwashiorkor and Marasmus don't exist in developed countries, unless you are seriously ill or starving yourself.
    "Kwashiorkor describes a protein deficiency, while someone with marasmus is not eating enough protein and not getting enough calories. Those in the developing countries with kwashiorkor or marasmus, have it from not eating enough food."

    I'm vegan. I eat a lot, and a huge variety of delicious amazing food, so I never feel deprived. I take B-12 supplements and flax oil for folic acid. I feel great, other than some other health issues not related to my diet. I do take extra protein shakes for muscle recovery, but not because I'm afraid of being deficient.

    LOVE THE TASTE OF MEAT? Try www.beyondmeat.com. I hear people can't tell the difference. It's non-gmo too.

    IF you really want to be a body-builder, just eat some of this:

    Protein Content in Selected Vegan Foods
    by Robert Cheeke, Vegan Bodybuilder, October 11th, 2004

    This chart shows the amount of protein in various vegan foods and also the number of grams of protein per 100 calories. To meet protein recommendations, the typical adult male vegan needs only 2.2 to 2.7 grams of protein per 100 calories and the typical adult female vegan needs only 2.3 to 2.9 grams of protein per 100 calories. These recommendations can be easily met from vegan sources.

    Protein Content of Selected Vegan Foods

    FOOD AMOUNT PROTEIN PROTEIN
    (gm) (gm/100 cal)


    Tempeh 1 cup 31 9.5
    Seitan 4 ounces 15-31 21.4-22.1
    Soybeans, cooked 1 cup 29 9.6
    Veggie dog 1 link 8-26 13.3-20
    Veggie burger 1 patty 5-24 3.8-21.8
    Lentils, cooked 1 cup 18 7.8
    Tofu, firm 4 ounces 8-15 10-12.2
    Kidney beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Lima beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Black beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.3
    Chickpeas, cooked 1 cup 15 5.4
    Pinto beans, cooked 1 cup 14 6.0
    Black-eyed peas, cooked 1 cup 13 6.7
    Vegetarian baked beans 1 cup 12 5.2
    Quinoa, cooked 1 cup 11 3.5
    Soymilk, commercial, plain 1 cup 3-10 3-12
    Tofu, regular 4 ounces 2-10 2.3-10.7
    Bagel 1 medium(3 oz) 9 3.7
    Peas, cooked 1 cup 9 3.4
    Textured Vegetable Protein
    (TVP), cooked 1/2 cup 8 8.4
    Peanut butter 2 Tbsp. 8 4.1
    Spaghetti, cooked 1 cup 7 3.4
    Spinach, cooked 1 cup 6 11.0
    Soy yogurt, plain 6 ounces 6 6
    Bulgur, cooked 1 cup 6 3.7
    Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup 6 3.3
    Almonds 1/4 cup 6 2.8
    Broccoli, cooked 1 cup 5 10.5
    Whole wheat bread 2 slices 5 3.9
    Cashews 1/4 cup 5 2.7
    Almond butter 2 Tbsp 5 2.4
    Brown rice, cooked 1 cup 5 2.1
    Potato 1 medium(6 oz) 4 2.6


    Sources: USDA Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 12, 1998 and
    manufacturers' information.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    I'm annoyed now that people think being veg is so hard. It's not hard at.all. in my opinion. and there is no such thing as being protein deficient unless you are starving to death (which is actually being calorie-deficient)

    REPEAT, THERE IS NO MEDICAL TERM FOR BEING PROTEIN-DEFICIENT!!

    Kwashiorkor and Marasmus don't exist in developed countries, unless you are seriously ill or starving yourself.
    "Kwashiorkor describes a protein deficiency, while someone with marasmus is not eating enough protein and not getting enough calories. Those in the developing countries with kwashiorkor or marasmus, have it from not eating enough food."

    I'm vegan. I eat a lot, and a huge variety of delicious amazing food, so I never feel deprived. I take B-12 supplements and flax oil for folic acid. I feel great, other than some other health issues not related to my diet. I do take extra protein shakes for muscle recovery, but not because I'm afraid of being deficient.

    LOVE THE TASTE OF MEAT? Try www.beyondmeat.com. I hear people can't tell the difference. It's non-gmo too.

    IF you really want to be a body-builder, just eat some of this:

    Protein Content in Selected Vegan Foods
    by Robert Cheeke, Vegan Bodybuilder, October 11th, 2004

    This chart shows the amount of protein in various vegan foods and also the number of grams of protein per 100 calories. To meet protein recommendations, the typical adult male vegan needs only 2.2 to 2.7 grams of protein per 100 calories and the typical adult female vegan needs only 2.3 to 2.9 grams of protein per 100 calories. These recommendations can be easily met from vegan sources.

    Protein Content of Selected Vegan Foods

    FOOD AMOUNT PROTEIN PROTEIN
    (gm) (gm/100 cal)


    Tempeh 1 cup 31 9.5
    Seitan 4 ounces 15-31 21.4-22.1
    Soybeans, cooked 1 cup 29 9.6
    Veggie dog 1 link 8-26 13.3-20
    Veggie burger 1 patty 5-24 3.8-21.8
    Lentils, cooked 1 cup 18 7.8
    Tofu, firm 4 ounces 8-15 10-12.2
    Kidney beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Lima beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Black beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.3
    Chickpeas, cooked 1 cup 15 5.4
    Pinto beans, cooked 1 cup 14 6.0
    Black-eyed peas, cooked 1 cup 13 6.7
    Vegetarian baked beans 1 cup 12 5.2
    Quinoa, cooked 1 cup 11 3.5
    Soymilk, commercial, plain 1 cup 3-10 3-12
    Tofu, regular 4 ounces 2-10 2.3-10.7
    Bagel 1 medium(3 oz) 9 3.7
    Peas, cooked 1 cup 9 3.4
    Textured Vegetable Protein
    (TVP), cooked 1/2 cup 8 8.4
    Peanut butter 2 Tbsp. 8 4.1
    Spaghetti, cooked 1 cup 7 3.4
    Spinach, cooked 1 cup 6 11.0
    Soy yogurt, plain 6 ounces 6 6
    Bulgur, cooked 1 cup 6 3.7
    Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup 6 3.3
    Almonds 1/4 cup 6 2.8
    Broccoli, cooked 1 cup 5 10.5
    Whole wheat bread 2 slices 5 3.9
    Cashews 1/4 cup 5 2.7
    Almond butter 2 Tbsp 5 2.4
    Brown rice, cooked 1 cup 5 2.1
    Potato 1 medium(6 oz) 4 2.6


    Sources: USDA Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 12, 1998 and
    manufacturers' information.

    Huh?

    How is this in any way related to the topic of this thread???


    ETA: And if I "love the taste of meat", why wouldn't I just eat meat? It's an approach that has worked for a very long time.
  • penrbrown
    penrbrown Posts: 2,685 Member
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    *grumble*hijackers*grumble*

    :grumble:

    You don't get to tell us how we get to respond to your thread.

    Stop being rude. You'll end up with more sister wives for your wife!
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
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    I'm annoyed now that people think being veg is so hard. It's not hard at.all. in my opinion. and there is no such thing as being protein deficient unless you are starving to death (which is actually being calorie-deficient)

    REPEAT, THERE IS NO MEDICAL TERM FOR BEING PROTEIN-DEFICIENT!!

    Kwashiorkor and Marasmus don't exist in developed countries, unless you are seriously ill or starving yourself.
    "Kwashiorkor describes a protein deficiency, while someone with marasmus is not eating enough protein and not getting enough calories. Those in the developing countries with kwashiorkor or marasmus, have it from not eating enough food."

    I'm vegan. I eat a lot, and a huge variety of delicious amazing food, so I never feel deprived. I take B-12 supplements and flax oil for folic acid. I feel great, other than some other health issues not related to my diet. I do take extra protein shakes for muscle recovery, but not because I'm afraid of being deficient.

    LOVE THE TASTE OF MEAT? Try www.beyondmeat.com. I hear people can't tell the difference. It's non-gmo too.

    IF you really want to be a body-builder, just eat some of this:

    Protein Content in Selected Vegan Foods
    by Robert Cheeke, Vegan Bodybuilder, October 11th, 2004

    This chart shows the amount of protein in various vegan foods and also the number of grams of protein per 100 calories. To meet protein recommendations, the typical adult male vegan needs only 2.2 to 2.7 grams of protein per 100 calories and the typical adult female vegan needs only 2.3 to 2.9 grams of protein per 100 calories. These recommendations can be easily met from vegan sources.

    Protein Content of Selected Vegan Foods

    FOOD AMOUNT PROTEIN PROTEIN
    (gm) (gm/100 cal)


    Tempeh 1 cup 31 9.5
    Seitan 4 ounces 15-31 21.4-22.1
    Soybeans, cooked 1 cup 29 9.6
    Veggie dog 1 link 8-26 13.3-20
    Veggie burger 1 patty 5-24 3.8-21.8
    Lentils, cooked 1 cup 18 7.8
    Tofu, firm 4 ounces 8-15 10-12.2
    Kidney beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Lima beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Black beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.3
    Chickpeas, cooked 1 cup 15 5.4
    Pinto beans, cooked 1 cup 14 6.0
    Black-eyed peas, cooked 1 cup 13 6.7
    Vegetarian baked beans 1 cup 12 5.2
    Quinoa, cooked 1 cup 11 3.5
    Soymilk, commercial, plain 1 cup 3-10 3-12
    Tofu, regular 4 ounces 2-10 2.3-10.7
    Bagel 1 medium(3 oz) 9 3.7
    Peas, cooked 1 cup 9 3.4
    Textured Vegetable Protein
    (TVP), cooked 1/2 cup 8 8.4
    Peanut butter 2 Tbsp. 8 4.1
    Spaghetti, cooked 1 cup 7 3.4
    Spinach, cooked 1 cup 6 11.0
    Soy yogurt, plain 6 ounces 6 6
    Bulgur, cooked 1 cup 6 3.7
    Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup 6 3.3
    Almonds 1/4 cup 6 2.8
    Broccoli, cooked 1 cup 5 10.5
    Whole wheat bread 2 slices 5 3.9
    Cashews 1/4 cup 5 2.7
    Almond butter 2 Tbsp 5 2.4
    Brown rice, cooked 1 cup 5 2.1
    Potato 1 medium(6 oz) 4 2.6


    Sources: USDA Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 12, 1998 and
    manufacturers' information.

    Huh?

    How is this in any way related to the topic of this thread???


    ETA: And if I "love the taste of meat", why wouldn't I just eat meat? It's an approach that has worked for a very long time.

    i think she just accidentally posted in the parody thread, rather than the thread it was a parody of.
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
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    I'm annoyed now that people think being veg is so hard. It's not hard at.all. in my opinion. and there is no such thing as being protein deficient unless you are starving to death (which is actually being calorie-deficient)

    REPEAT, THERE IS NO MEDICAL TERM FOR BEING PROTEIN-DEFICIENT!!

    Kwashiorkor and Marasmus don't exist in developed countries, unless you are seriously ill or starving yourself.
    "Kwashiorkor describes a protein deficiency, while someone with marasmus is not eating enough protein and not getting enough calories. Those in the developing countries with kwashiorkor or marasmus, have it from not eating enough food."

    I'm vegan. I eat a lot, and a huge variety of delicious amazing food, so I never feel deprived. I take B-12 supplements and flax oil for folic acid. I feel great, other than some other health issues not related to my diet. I do take extra protein shakes for muscle recovery, but not because I'm afraid of being deficient.

    LOVE THE TASTE OF MEAT? Try www.beyondmeat.com. I hear people can't tell the difference. It's non-gmo too.

    IF you really want to be a body-builder, just eat some of this:

    Protein Content in Selected Vegan Foods
    by Robert Cheeke, Vegan Bodybuilder, October 11th, 2004

    This chart shows the amount of protein in various vegan foods and also the number of grams of protein per 100 calories. To meet protein recommendations, the typical adult male vegan needs only 2.2 to 2.7 grams of protein per 100 calories and the typical adult female vegan needs only 2.3 to 2.9 grams of protein per 100 calories. These recommendations can be easily met from vegan sources.

    Protein Content of Selected Vegan Foods

    FOOD AMOUNT PROTEIN PROTEIN
    (gm) (gm/100 cal)


    Tempeh 1 cup 31 9.5
    Seitan 4 ounces 15-31 21.4-22.1
    Soybeans, cooked 1 cup 29 9.6
    Veggie dog 1 link 8-26 13.3-20
    Veggie burger 1 patty 5-24 3.8-21.8
    Lentils, cooked 1 cup 18 7.8
    Tofu, firm 4 ounces 8-15 10-12.2
    Kidney beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Lima beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
    Black beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.3
    Chickpeas, cooked 1 cup 15 5.4
    Pinto beans, cooked 1 cup 14 6.0
    Black-eyed peas, cooked 1 cup 13 6.7
    Vegetarian baked beans 1 cup 12 5.2
    Quinoa, cooked 1 cup 11 3.5
    Soymilk, commercial, plain 1 cup 3-10 3-12
    Tofu, regular 4 ounces 2-10 2.3-10.7
    Bagel 1 medium(3 oz) 9 3.7
    Peas, cooked 1 cup 9 3.4
    Textured Vegetable Protein
    (TVP), cooked 1/2 cup 8 8.4
    Peanut butter 2 Tbsp. 8 4.1
    Spaghetti, cooked 1 cup 7 3.4
    Spinach, cooked 1 cup 6 11.0
    Soy yogurt, plain 6 ounces 6 6
    Bulgur, cooked 1 cup 6 3.7
    Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup 6 3.3
    Almonds 1/4 cup 6 2.8
    Broccoli, cooked 1 cup 5 10.5
    Whole wheat bread 2 slices 5 3.9
    Cashews 1/4 cup 5 2.7
    Almond butter 2 Tbsp 5 2.4
    Brown rice, cooked 1 cup 5 2.1
    Potato 1 medium(6 oz) 4 2.6


    Sources: USDA Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 12, 1998 and
    manufacturers' information.

    Huh?

    How is this in any way related to the topic of this thread???


    ETA: And if I "love the taste of meat", why wouldn't I just eat meat? It's an approach that has worked for a very long time.

    i think she just accidentally posted in the parody thread, rather than the thread it was a parody of.

    Must be that BCAA deficiency causing her to misread things. :laugh:
  • bluefrog_2001
    bluefrog_2001 Posts: 138 Member
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    out of fear of being accused of trying to have a logical and civil debate with an opinion that is different from yours I simply say:

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    Just be sure to move your keyboard first. All I'm saying.

    i second that advice - I have a keyboard imprint on my forehead that no amount of microdermabrasion has managed to get rid of.
  • CorvusCorax77
    CorvusCorax77 Posts: 2,536 Member
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    Must be that BCAA deficiency causing her to misread things. :laugh:

    I'm pretty sure since she is my friend and she avoids forums that she was just using the links on my page. I had commented about the veggie/meat thread, and at the same time I commented on this. I think it's an easy mistake to make.

    Yes. I am defending my friend in a forum.

    SMH

    I need to get a life! THIS IS MFP FORUMS, CORVUS! NO ONE CARES!!!!
  • live2dream
    live2dream Posts: 614 Member
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    Must be that BCAA deficiency causing her to misread things. :laugh:

    I'm pretty sure since she is my friend and she avoids forums that she was just using the links on my page. I had commented about the veggie/meat thread, and at the same time I commented on this. I think it's an easy mistake to make.

    Yes. I am defending my friend in a forum.

    SMH

    I need to get a life! THIS IS MFP FORUMS, CORVUS! NO ONE CARES!!!!

    LOL you are right! I posting in the wrong thread. (hangs head again) lol.

    And I care about you and you only. thanks love ;)
  • transvenouspacer
    transvenouspacer Posts: 182 Member
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    Because bewbs
  • foxro
    foxro Posts: 793 Member
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    "To get back to the warning that I received. You may take it with however many grains of salt that you wish. That the brown acid that is circulating around us isn't too good. It is suggested that you stay away from that. Of course it's your own trip. So be my guest, but please be advised that there is a warning on that one, ok?"
  • jnichel
    jnichel Posts: 4,553 Member
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    BACON!

    Now, STFU and get back to work.

    Or play.

    Whatever the hell y'all were doing.
  • CherokeeBabe
    CherokeeBabe Posts: 1,704 Member
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    Just break up.


    OR...


    Bacon.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    Must be that BCAA deficiency causing her to misread things. :laugh:

    I'm pretty sure since she is my friend and she avoids forums that she was just using the links on my page. I had commented about the veggie/meat thread, and at the same time I commented on this. I think it's an easy mistake to make.

    Yes. I am defending my friend in a forum.

    SMH

    I need to get a life! THIS IS MFP FORUMS, CORVUS! NO ONE CARES!!!!

    LOL you are right! I posting in the wrong thread. (hangs head again) lol.

    And I care about you and you only. thanks love ;)

    Hooray for acknowledging your mistake in the MFP forums. This kind of behavior is extraordinarily rare and scores many points* in my book.






    *points have no cash value.
  • RobfromLakewood
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    I thought I heard bacon
  • Sassy922
    Sassy922 Posts: 399 Member
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    no
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
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    Greetings,

    I often hear from my friends, both close and not so close, that I should do (or not do) a certain thing that is controversial within a certain subset of society.

    Why is this such a common thing? What do you think (WITHOUT BEING RUDE OR DEBATING) on this? If you also do not do this certain thing, are you generally healthy?

    I see. So you are just looking for people to agree with you or not post.

    Got it.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
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    I have this odd feeling déjà vu, again, like it has happened before at another time somewhere.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    Greetings,

    I often hear from my friends, both close and not so close, that I should do (or not do) a certain thing that is controversial within a certain subset of society.

    Why is this such a common thing? What do you think (WITHOUT BEING RUDE OR DEBATING) on this? If you also do not do this certain thing, are you generally healthy?

    I see. So you are just looking for people to agree with you or not post.

    Got it.

    I believe what you meant to say is:

    "Without ebing rude or debating? So you are just looking for people to agree with you.

    Got it."