Controversial Topic - Opinions & Debate please!

IMO this is an none issue, this single case. 12 in 5 years is a joke.

Fatter people are not lazy, SHE is lazy. thats once every 6 months she applied for a job? If I was unemployed I'd be applying for jobs almost daily.

She didn't only apply for 12 jobs, she only had 12 interviews. Now, I agree that in 5 years that seems low, but I do know people that applied for 50/60 jobs for every 2/3 interviews they got while unemployed.

So of course, we can deduce that she didn't get more interviews because of her weight. I am pretty sure the receptionists who took her applications made sure to write 'fatty' at the top of it, so the bossman would know to not call her.

I'm not putting words in your mouth, by any means. I am just trying to follow the logic of this QQ bull****, and it just gets more ridiculous by the minute.

I don't think anybody should be judged based on their weight for employment unless there weight would actually be an issue. If I was hiring a pilot, I would hire somebody who would fit in the chair over somebody who was extremely overweight.

Her qualifications are most likely what are holding her back, at least for the most part. I'm sure her weight also has something to do with it but it's probably not as big of a deal as she's making it out to be.

What your not thinking about is a person receiving benefits is on a very strict income, obviously. When you go to the grocery store and look around at prices (at least here in America) you will notice that the cheaper foods are the ones that are unhealthy. For example I personally am very careful when shopping. I check the calorie content on everything. Regular peanut butter here is about $3 a jar. The peanut butter I use is $7 a jar for the same amount because it's organic and 100 calories less per serving (2 table spoons). She has to make the benefits last for a certain amount of time. In order to do that she has to stretch the money. Now, I have a question for you. If you were in her situation say had 300 a month in benefits for food would you buy healthy and starve 2 weeks out of the month or stretch the money and try to make it so you can eat for those 30 days?

No, I'd eat decently by making $300 last the whole month by not eating twice what a person needs to consume. Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe we are giving them too damned much money? My wife and I both eat off of $350 per month now that I am off of my strict keto diet. It's not WHAT they are eating, it's how damned much of it they are eating.

ETA: I know people hate it when I point out the fact that poor people still like to have **** like iPhones and the like, but it really does show how screwed up their priorities are. So, they'd rather fuel their bodies like crap, than to deviate funds away from 'toys'? Seriously? **** them.

You can deduce anything you'd like, I offered no guess about why she wasn't hired or wasn't invited for other interviews. I simply pointed out that 12 interviews does not equal 12 applications as I know very few people (of any weight) that get called to interview for every job they apply for. Her minimal qualifications are probably what's holding her back and keeping her from getting more interviews, but knowing how many interviews she has had in no way indicates how many jobs she's applied for. That was the ONLY point I was making and anything else you chose to infer, was indeed putting words in my mouth - or certainly implying incorrect meaning to what little I did say.

My response was less aimed at what you said than inspired by it. What I was getting at was that they are trying to make everything about this hinge on the fact that she's fat. It's pathetic.

My opinion is this:

How when she must have other expenses does she have enough money living on benefits to remain large, after expenses most people who are earning barely enough money to buy food let alone someone on a low income like that? I agree that prejudice is wrong but I lost weight to do my job better and I am a much better employee now that I am fitter.

Is it whether you are fat or not or is it merely being fat represents being unhealthy and this hinders you in the work place?

Are you joking with me? Instead of focusing on the topic that you introduced, you are attacking people who live on benefits i.e. poor people? This is why regular people shouldn't have these debates and why people without public health degrees shouldn't be making public health policies or decisions (another reason why most of our politicians don't know what they are talking about)

In the field of public health, it is COMMON knowledge that poor people are more likely to be overweight or obese. In the United States, this also means that minorities like African Americans are more likely to be overweight or obese. I'm not going to go into the specifics of this, as you could have a whole semester on it in public health school, but that's the reality. The fact that she is or is not on benefits shouldn't be used against her. I hope that if you ever have a rough time in life, or go bankrupt because of a major health issue or lose your job or so on or so forth, you don't have self-hate because you might have to go on benefits. The welfare system is there for a reason (although it needs some major reform in the United States).

When it comes to your original issue of whether or not employers are right/justified/allowed to discriminate against fat people, I'll agree that this happens alot, but it really shouldn't. I mean, would you fire your skinny employee if she became fat during her time employed? Would you hire an employee with a clear face or one with a few pimples?

The reality is that employers make hiring decisions for a whole variety of reasons, most of which are illogical. A recent study also showed that women who wear a moderate amount of makeup are more likely to get hired than women who don't wear any makeup and women who wear too much makeup are the least likely to be hired. Light-skinned people are more likely to be hired than dark-skinned people. People with "weird" names (like me) are less likely to be hired than John, Jane, and Sarah. I've pretty much come to the conclusion that hiring is completely subjective and when the hiring people themselves become more diverse, that's when we'll start to see hiring that is more "fair". Or someone will sue and it'll go to the supreme court.