This has really pushed my button!

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  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    I will be in the minority but photoshop is just an advanced method mode of makeup and accessories used by women.

    Photoshop, if done right, can be used to make a women look her best on her best day. If done wrong, it can make women look weird. Frankly, give the general public some credit. They know what a photoshopped image looks like.

    Many will say "Well what about the kids". You know, the youth nowadays can identify a photoshopped image better than most of the older fellows. Does it change the fact that they still feel insecured about their bodies? Nope. Its not photoshopped pics or models or anything doing it. Its everybody. And its not anything new. Afterall, bullemia and anorexia was invented milleniums ago for a reason.

    Overall, stop panicing over photoshopping. If you want it gone so badly, stop talking about it and ignoring it. Stop buying their products and stop even talking about the magazines you're not buying because of this. Just stop recognizing it and imagine they don't exist
  • RunDoozer
    RunDoozer Posts: 1,699 Member
    It doesn't matter what picture it is in a magazine. It is photoshopped. Could be a morbidly obese woman and it's getting shopped

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Ae2ouGaMQ

    She could have been 50 lbs heavier before
  • SamanthaClarexo
    SamanthaClarexo Posts: 353 Member
    It's a nice picture. She's gorgeous. I like it.
  • ianlikesholidays
    ianlikesholidays Posts: 75 Member
    Hi
    If I woke up next to a lady with a body like that. For sure - I certainly wouldn't be in any rush to jump out of bed.
    I know a few men are "chubby chasers" but the majority want a slim and sexy lady (that isn't high maintenance lol).
    Ian .
  • brevislux
    brevislux Posts: 1,093 Member
    Physically impossible.
  • skinnyinnotime
    skinnyinnotime Posts: 4,078 Member
    I don't see a problem she's skinny and?

    I'm skinny too, should I hide at home in case I upset someone?

    ETA I know you're talking about photoshopping in case anyone thinks I missed that
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Fashion and advertizing are art forms. The fashion industry chooses the models they do because they are extreme versions of human form. They're trying to convey a fantasy. Also it makes the design process easier if they don't have to worry about flattering the model, it lets them stick to their vision. People who create ads are going to be looking for like shapes and repeating patterns. Some of the changes they make in photoshop, particularly in this one I think, are exaggerated to complement the background and the feeling they're trying to achieve. If you look back at Art History this has always been done, in different ways. Look up Mannerism. The artists would stretch and distort the human form in order to make it more aesthetically pleasing. It looks very strange, and I'd post an image or two but I'm not sure about the rules on nude art. In the 19th century there was a battle between those who wanted to portray women as perfect goddesses, entirely for the male viewer (often for their bedrooms, if you follow), and those who wanted to portray them naturalistically. Look up The Birth of Venus by Cabanel to see how women were portrayed then. Art swings on a pendulum back and forth from stylized to realistic over time.

    My point is that you have to learn to separate art from reality. It's ok in my book that photoshop is used or that fashion models don't look average. We all know that photoshop is being used, and models aren't meant to look like the average woman. It doesn't bother me.

    Also it's strange to me that this is the image that bothers you so much, considering all the other much more exaggerated and extreme images out there. Why does this one in particular bother you so much?

    Edited to account for lack of coffee.
  • dovetail22uk
    dovetail22uk Posts: 339 Member
    I've got the "lollipop, lollipop" song in my head
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    It's interesting how the more they push these images at me the more I find myself disliking skinny... and then I feel bad because all body types should be appreciated. *sigh*

    To me, there's a difference between a naturally slender body type and starvation for the sake of being skinny. I remember learning in my teen years about models eating nothing but a single lettuce leaf. Something like that has nothing to do with appreciating a body type.
  • agggie550
    agggie550 Posts: 281 Member
    Not to rain on everyones parade, becasue I dont think super skinny is attractive either, but has anyone every looked at an add with a plus size model and said "Wow I would love to look like that" .. most likely no ... they market things based on what people in the back of their mind are thinking, its not just a wow that dress is nice, its wow she is skinny, i wanna be skinnier so I can wear a dress like that. You ever notice how there are no plus size male models, because every dude wants to look like a statue in a perfect cut 3 peice suit. Do you honestly believe that a product would sell if they put it on a normal looking person? Its just advertising, you would sell a box of cookies in a dog food box, no you dress it make it look appealing to the masses, or at least get enough people thinking about it good or bad, negative views of an ad are still going to get people talking about it.
  • emacb123
    emacb123 Posts: 254 Member
    That dress look cool though :) although my girlfriend doesn't like geometric prints.


    Oh. sorry we were talking about the model? I didn't notice :D

    Heh, I was thinking the same ...

    I happen to love geometric prints especially with a mod twist.

    I really like the photo

    *ducks for cover*
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    It is interesting as far as advertisement goes... but her head is as wide as her waist...

    Is that really so unusual? I think Marilyn Monroe had a 27" head and a 24" waist.

    This image doesn't push any of my buttons. I think it's pretty cool looking. Of course it's photoshopped... it's part of an ad campaign. But I've seen others that were a lot more unrealistic.

    Mascara ads tick me off more. Some people are this thin, but NO ONE has eye lashes like the ones in ads. :laugh:
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    huge hair aside...

    my teen eats like a horse and has pretty much exactly that body shape.
    she's fit, healthy, has great stamina and eats plenty.
    her doctor says she's fighting fit.

    she faces constant accusations of anorexia from overweight women.

    it's an interesting reversal of what i remember as a teen.
    demonising the slim.
  • iLoveMyPitbull1225
    iLoveMyPitbull1225 Posts: 1,690 Member
    I get what you're saying, but the thing is Coco Rocha really IS that thin
    I'm sure that picture is photoshopped, but she actually is a very small woman. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

    This. I admire Coco for her career and successes....do I wanna look like her? NO! Never have, never will. Women in our society need to learn to make healthy decisions for themselves and feel good about being the best they can be in their own bodies, even if they arent a super tall super skinny supermodel.
  • wikitbikit
    wikitbikit Posts: 518 Member
    Not to rain on everyones parade, becasue I dont think super skinny is attractive either, but has anyone every looked at an add with a plus size model and said "Wow I would love to look like that" .. most likely no ...
    Hmm, I think most plus-size models are what many people would consider almost 'average' body weights at this point. Maybe Lena Dunham would call them "thin for Detroit," haha :) They often have very beautiful figures, with no unsightly bulges (probably due to photoshop!), just larger overall frames.
  • ApexLeader
    ApexLeader Posts: 580 Member
    It is interesting as far as advertisement goes... but her head is as wide as her waist...

    Is that really so unusual? I think Marilyn Monroe had a 27" head and a 24" waist.

    This image doesn't push any of my buttons. I think it's pretty cool looking. Of course it's photoshopped... it's part of an ad campaign. But I've seen others that were a lot more unrealistic.

    Mascara ads tick me off more. Some people are this thin, but NO ONE has eye lashes like the ones in ads. :laugh:

    i do. my eyelashes are insane and it is a bit of a problem actually. they're too long and there are too many of them. and i'm a guy, so it isn't like i need them.
  • I think it's funny how people just assume she's anorexic and photo shopped.....What if she's just naturally skinny like that? I've had friends who were skinnier then her and they ate like crazy but they couldn't gain weight. I don't think she even looks anorexic to be honest.
  • the media is not aware that the actual average size of the American women is a size 14.

    which is what the lady in the ad looked like to me. the media wants to push being thin their idea of a good healthy weight is a size 0. but that is not a realistic size.
  • VictoriaWorksOut
    VictoriaWorksOut Posts: 195 Member
    Companies spend piles of money on research to find out what we (consumer) like. Research says we like it, and it sells the stuff. So there you go. Even the plus size models are skinnier then regular plus size ladies.
    Don't spend your money on companies that you don't like for whatever reason. Money is what talks to them.
  • I totally agree! It is stuff like this that creates all the eating disorders that young people have nowadays.
  • Pookylou
    Pookylou Posts: 988 Member
    huge hair aside...

    my teen eats like a horse and has pretty much exactly that body shape.
    she's fit, healthy, has great stamina and eats plenty.
    her doctor says she's fighting fit.

    she faces constant accusations of anorexia from overweight women.

    it's an interesting reversal of what i remember as a teen.
    demonising the slim.

    The hair freaked me out too..............
    I had a friend at school who was constantly abused for her weight, she was sporty and ate like a horse, but was naturally tiny. It was horrible.
    I don't think the photoshop on this is bad at all, they've photographed her to elongate her legs, altered brightness to smooth skin tone etc but I have seen MUCH worse!
  • I don't see the problem here. She looks healthy and she doesn't appear to be underweight.
  • I've got the "lollipop, lollipop" song in my head

    Thanks for putting that in my head! lol
  • joolywooly33
    joolywooly33 Posts: 421 Member
    I think she looks great!
  • Pookylou
    Pookylou Posts: 988 Member
    I totally agree! It is stuff like this that creates all the eating disorders that young people have nowadays.

    *head desk* over simplification much?
  • NutellaAddict
    NutellaAddict Posts: 1,258 Member
    Too skinny---need some damn meat on her bones. No *kitten*= no thanks.
  • laccy40
    laccy40 Posts: 136
    I think it's funny how people just assume she's anorexic and photo shopped.....What if she's just naturally skinny like that? I've had friends who were skinnier then her and they ate like crazy but they couldn't gain weight. I don't think she even looks anorexic to be honest.
    For everyone who said we all know its photoshopped and can all tell the difference between art and real life ... Read this quote.
  • MsPudding
    MsPudding Posts: 562 Member
    Well she's been photoshopped to the point that she's biologically impossible.

    However that doesn't worry me as much as the women who go as far as to sculpt their bodies to emulate fictional characters that are biologically impossible.......like this mad bint:

    barbie.jpg
  • LozPenguin
    LozPenguin Posts: 139 Member
    It's all well and good to say "don't get offended, dont let ads dictate how you feel, dont let the media teach you how to live" rah rah. But I get why it annoys the OP! You have to think about how these images affect society as a whole on a subconscious level. It sets the 'normal' bar, and when you have kids and impressionable teenagers soaking it all in; I agree, it becomes a problem and a shame. Teens often find a million little flaws with themselves that "no one else has" because they never see a blemish in the magazines; and poor self-esteem and eating disorders (both ends of the spectrum) can be borne from it. Remember as well, not everyone has the same starting block in life; you may have been raised to appreciate yourself and that the media can't be trusted for realism; but others grow up without challenging those perceptions. People can be surprisingly oblivious.

    I'm not saying there should only be un-photoshopped, larger people in advertising; keep the skinny girls in business. Skinny is a body type, they deserve to be in there. But I do think there should be an equal number (or at least more than we have now :p) of different body types and sizes out there; I mean where's the variety!

    Edit: just to be clear I'm talking more about ads/media in general, not necessarily this ad in particular. Yes she's had some level of photoshop, but I have seen a lot worse. I accept this may just be her body type and she's healthy; maybe not; but on the whole the advertising industry has a lot to answer for.
  • silky_kitten
    silky_kitten Posts: 171 Member
    It doesn't matter what picture it is in a magazine. It is photoshopped. Could be a morbidly obese woman and it's getting shopped

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Ae2ouGaMQ

    She could have been 50 lbs heavier before

    The woman in this video is a "plus size" model, and she is gorgeous before photoshop!