0 Calories?

STKari
STKari Posts: 20 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
I remember when I did weight watchers there were some items that were considered 0 points. I assume you could consider them 0 calories? Does anyone know of any?
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  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Water.
  • kg4ulu
    kg4ulu Posts: 39 Member
    0 points still have calories. Fruits and veggies still have calories and should be counted. Water and 0 calorie sodas are the only 0 point things I can think of at the moment.
  • Ottinger13
    Ottinger13 Posts: 55 Member
    That was the big shocker for me. I ate lots and lots of fruits on Weight Watchers and the first day on MFP I was out of calories by noon. Everything has sugar.
  • ismiseciara
    ismiseciara Posts: 211 Member
    Water.


    ^^^^ This
  • littlelily613
    littlelily613 Posts: 769 Member
    Absolutely not! Calories and points are not the same thing. The general rule is every point is approximately 50 calories. Something with 0 points CAN have calories in it. Basically the only healthy calorie free thing out there is water.
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    That was the big shocker for me. I ate lots and lots of fruits on Weight Watchers and the first day on MFP I was out of calories by noon. Everything has sugar.

    This is a complaint I hear so much with the WW program. People don't realize that the calories from fruits and vegetables DO count and can add up pretty quick if you are not careful.
  • STKari
    STKari Posts: 20 Member
    I am going to have to find something I read so I don't look like an idiot here... but I didn't explain myself well either.

    I've read something negative calorie foods or something when eaten usually raw it takes more calories to eat them/digest or something like that than they are so they are sort of "free" foods (everything in moderation of course) and I seem to remember the list was similar to some I remember being 0 points on Weight Watchers.

    I am just sitting here hungry... I have over 600 calories left for today so I need to eat again but I am wondering what to do when you really really are hungry and have no calories left.
  • veganashley
    veganashley Posts: 70 Member
    I feel like Weight Watchers does such a disservice to people by promoting fruits and vegetables as "free." I know there are people who are successful on WW plans, and that's great, but the system of counting imaginary numbers makes very little sense to me.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    I am going to have to find something I read so I don't look like an idiot here... but I didn't explain myself well either.

    I've read something negative calorie foods or something when eaten usually raw it takes more calories to eat them/digest or something like that than they are so they are sort of "free" foods (everything in moderation of course) and I seem to remember the list was similar to some I remember being 0 points on Weight Watchers.

    I am just sitting here hungry... I have over 600 calories left for today so I need to eat again but I am wondering what to do when you really really are hungry and have no calories left.

    Negative calorie foods are total BS. Foods have calories - whether you want to pretend they do or not. When you're really hungry and you have no calories left you either 1) go over or 2) exercise and earn more calories - you don't get to pretend your food magically has no calories. Going over isn't the end of the world and one day over won't do you any damage.
  • gtreyger
    gtreyger Posts: 25
    I am going to have to find something I read so I don't look like an idiot here... but I didn't explain myself well either.

    I've read something negative calorie foods or something when eaten usually raw it takes more calories to eat them/digest or something like that than they are so they are sort of "free" foods (everything in moderation of course) and I seem to remember the list was similar to some I remember being 0 points on Weight Watchers.

    I am just sitting here hungry... I have over 600 calories left for today so I need to eat again but I am wondering what to do when you really really are hungry and have no calories left.

    The only truly negative calorie beverage is ice water, which has no calories but requires the body to expend some energy to raise the liquid to body temperature. True story!
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    "Points" is a calculation of calories, fiber, and fat. To be 0 points the fiber content has to a certain % higher than calories and fat -- meaning there are, in fact, calories.

    I quit WW when they moved to PointsPlus because they tried to act like calories from fruit and veggies don't count. Before points plus, the calculation method made MOST veggies 0 points because it was low calorie/fat and high fiber, but fruits were usually 2-4 points because they have more calories (from carbs/sugars). What they found was that people would rather have 2 points snack cake than a 2 point apple. Supposedly it was to help people make "healthier" choices.

    I personally it stalls people's weight loss.
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
    It's this stuff that makes me really anti-weight watchers. As said above, it's a huge disservice to people who haven't learned much about nutrition to act like fruit and veg are calorie free. It just promotes the wrong attitude toward food in general, not to mention you can still get fat eating fruit and veg if you eat enough of it!
  • STKari
    STKari Posts: 20 Member
    meh' I did well on Weight Watchers. When I did it it was ages ago so not the new system either. At least 7 or 8 years ago I did it. Lost what I needed to loose and kept it off for a few years. My weight issues now have nothing at all to do with Weight Watchers.

    Here is one article...

    <a href="http://www.myfitnesspal.com"><img src="http://badges.myfitnesspal.com/badges/show/2825/5487/28255487.weight-lost-md.gif&quot; border="0"></a><p style="text-align: center;width:152px;"><small>MyFitnessPal - Free <a href="http://www.myfitnesspal.com">Calorie Counter</a></small></p>

    *shrugs* negative calories make sense to me... nothing says you can eat as much as you want or anything like that or that you don't need to count them... just that they do work. I think the 0 point foods on WW since they are based in part on fiber content was this list (I can't remember its been quite a few years). I have to say counting points was FAR easier than counting calories is for me. Take an apple for example I could say I had an apple in whatever size and find my points. Calories is harder there doesn't seem to be a clear cut answer on how much a medium apple is in calories. Plus what is medium to me might not really be medium it might be small or it might be large to wherever I found the calorie count at online.
  • CharityGC
    CharityGC Posts: 499 Member
    It's best to weigh foods for the reasons you describe. You'll get a much more accurate calorie count than just guessing what size something is.
  • honkytonks85
    honkytonks85 Posts: 669 Member
    Water.

    Close to 0 - black coffee, sugar free gum, diet drinks
  • The1iceQueen
    The1iceQueen Posts: 119
    Just water and 0 calorie sodas are all I know that are 0 calories. Very close to nothing is cabbage at about 20 calories a cup I think.
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    Air. Swallow lots of air.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    My dill pickles say 0 cals.
  • BondBomb
    BondBomb Posts: 1,781 Member
    There are no such thing as negative calorie foods. It's a myth. Like Santa Klaus or comfortable high heels.
  • NorthernGRITS33
    NorthernGRITS33 Posts: 5 Member
    There are some teas that are 0 calories....
  • oneworkoutatatime
    oneworkoutatatime Posts: 312
    Water.
  • beachgal0626
    beachgal0626 Posts: 1,912 Member
    I believe celery only has about 15 calories for two large stalks and I've heard it takes a bit more energy to chew/digest than other foods. ?????
  • BondBomb
    BondBomb Posts: 1,781 Member
    I believe celery only has about 15 calories for two large stalks and I've heard it takes a bit more energy to chew/digest than other foods. ?????
    Your bmr includes already includes digestion. A calorie is a calorie. If you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight. If you burn more calories than you eat you will lose weight. There are no foods that you can eat that are not going to factor into this equation.
  • dangerousdumpling
    dangerousdumpling Posts: 1,109 Member
    I think WW point system is different now. Fruit definitely has points and I think it has for quite a while. Vegetables now have points, too, but I think they're 1 point per serving depending on the veg. I could be wrong. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am.

    You could have an egg white and veggie omelet if you're low on calories for the day. Egg whites are only 17 calories. Add sauteed onion, bell pepper, and some sliced tomato for not much more. Sargento Ultra Thin slice cheese for a bit of protein.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,342 Member
    I think WW point system is different now. Fruit definitely has points and I think it has for quite a while. Vegetables now have points, too, but I think they're 1 point per serving depending on the veg. I could be wrong. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am.

    You could have an egg white and veggie omelet if you're low on calories for the day. Egg whites are only 17 calories. Add sauteed onion, bell pepper, and some sliced tomato for not much more. Sargento Ultra Thin slice cheese for a bit of protein.

    Nope, WW has made all but starchy veg and all fruit 0 points.It's crazy. People eating 5-6 serves a fruit a day and wondering why they aren't losing.
  • STKari
    STKari Posts: 20 Member
    That's all fine and dandy and I do have a scale to do so, but, even so when I type something in with the measurements I get different calorie counts its frustrating.

    ETA: Sorry meant to quote and reply here.
  • STKari
    STKari Posts: 20 Member
    Air. Swallow lots of air.

    I am here for support not comments like this.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,342 Member
    Air. Swallow lots of air.

    I am here for support not comments like this.

    you'll want to get used to comments, good and bad. This is a big organic conversation and you can't dictate the way people will reply.
  • STKari
    STKari Posts: 20 Member
    If you eat more calories than you burn you will gain weight. If you burn more calories than you eat you will lose weight.

    Then why when you exercise does My fitness pal tell you to add more calories? To me that is saying you aren't burning more calories than you eat. Also, if your diet contains less than 1200 calories no matter what your weight you likely aren't going to lose weight according to studies. This includes burning off say 400 on a 1500 calorie diet. What you are saying just doesn't make sense there about burning more calories than you eat and loosing weight based on scientific studies.
  • STKari
    STKari Posts: 20 Member
    Air. Swallow lots of air.

    I am here for support not comments like this.

    you'll want to get used to comments, good and bad. This is a big organic conversation and you can't dictate the way people will reply.

    I am new here and very vulnerable I would appreciate nicer replies if that isn't what this board is about (support) then maybe I need to be elsewhere any way. I can handle constructive criticism and hearing what I don't want to hear just fine but being rude to me when I am here for support (and presumably we all are) is just not helpful to my journey at all.

    I'm not talking about dictating the way people reply, I'm saying that I am at a spot in my weight loss journey where I need support and I won't tolerate someone being this way as I struggle through. If that is what is supported here then I will just not participate here in the community. Perhaps sparkpeople is a better place IDK.

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