How do I change my thinking?

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  • yea it's offensive/hard but if you don't want to hear these kinds of things and all you want is a pity party... you're at the wrong site.

    No, I don't want a pity party. I was just asking for advice. Thanks for your feedback.

    getting advice is one thing and definitely a lot of people have offered their opinions on what to do. i'm not going to be any different. there are things that work for some people and there are things that didnt work.

    you'll need to find what works for you - and you dont have to feel like you're depriving yourself because you can have a cheat day. *mindblown*

    seriously... nothing anyone will say will help you unless you are actually willing to change.

    maybe look at yourself in the mirror butt naked and see for yourself that things need to change. maybe you need a change in partner.

    diet is 100x more important than exercise.
  • BitterGoil
    BitterGoil Posts: 32 Member
    Fake it till you make it!

    Please explain. Thanks!
  • BitterGoil
    BitterGoil Posts: 32 Member
    yea it's offensive/hard but if you don't want to hear these kinds of things and all you want is a pity party... you're at the wrong site.

    No, I don't want a pity party. I was just asking for advice. Thanks for your feedback.

    getting advice is one thing and definitely a lot of people have offered their opinions on what to do. i'm not going to be any different. there are things that work for some people and there are things that didnt work.

    you'll need to find what works for you - and you dont have to feel like you're depriving yourself because you can have a cheat day. *mindblown*

    seriously... nothing anyone will say will help you unless you are actually willing to change.

    maybe look at yourself in the mirror butt naked and see for yourself that things need to change. maybe you need a change in partner.

    diet is 100x more important than exercise.

    It is interesting you are suggesting I go as far as getting rid of someone I love. You know nothing about my life, so it's kind of intrusive and I would appreciate if you would stop suggesting that. I don't think I need to go that far. I am willing to look at myself. My partner will stay with me regardless of my decisions and may even follow. You never know.
  • blindedbyawesome
    blindedbyawesome Posts: 56 Member
    Make your health a priority!

    At first it will be very difficult but if you push through and start seeing and feeling results this will become your new addiction. Nothing feels better then taking control of your own mind, body and soul. Good Luck!
  • tirrelogston
    tirrelogston Posts: 39 Member
    I got the body media arm band and have total made a 180 in my thinking. I can see what I have burned and see what I have consumed. Plus it helps me push myself.
  • I have been maintaining for 5 months and constantly think about food!! I plan my meals, wait until it is time for each meal and snack. Maybe I am bored or depressed but this has NOT stopped. I stopped drinking everyday and don't miss this. I actually look forward to a glass of wine every couple of weeks and plan for this but... I don't think about drinking like I do food. I could use any help also.
  • yea it's offensive/hard but if you don't want to hear these kinds of things and all you want is a pity party... you're at the wrong site.

    No, I don't want a pity party. I was just asking for advice. Thanks for your feedback.

    getting advice is one thing and definitely a lot of people have offered their opinions on what to do. i'm not going to be any different. there are things that work for some people and there are things that didnt work.

    you'll need to find what works for you - and you dont have to feel like you're depriving yourself because you can have a cheat day. *mindblown*

    seriously... nothing anyone will say will help you unless you are actually willing to change.

    maybe look at yourself in the mirror butt naked and see for yourself that things need to change. maybe you need a change in partner.

    diet is 100x more important than exercise.

    It is interesting you are suggesting I go as far as getting rid of someone I love. You know nothing about my life, so it's kind of intrusive and I would appreciate if you would stop suggesting that. I don't think I need to go that far. I am willing to look at myself. My partner will stay with me regardless of my decisions and may even follow. You never know.

    I apologize for going to the extreme, and which may have clouded the helpfulness of my posts. more to the point, in referencing your first post - there is no magic trick and even getting a self help book is throwing money away. one thing that you can see which is consistent from all of the replies is that it requires diligence.

    the 10 months before i got married, i wanted to lose weight - at least 15lbs. Done - but there wasn't a magic trick or self help book i read but rather sweat, determination and eating right.

    I may not have been as constructive as other people but i've been around too many people who are all talk and are the very same people who complain. but as you can see from my posts, i tell them like it is.

    anyway i wish you the best and again, i apologize.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    yea it's offensive/hard but if you don't want to hear these kinds of things and all you want is a pity party... you're at the wrong site.

    No, I don't want a pity party. I was just asking for advice. Thanks for your feedback.

    getting advice is one thing and definitely a lot of people have offered their opinions on what to do. i'm not going to be any different. there are things that work for some people and there are things that didnt work.

    you'll need to find what works for you - and you dont have to feel like you're depriving yourself because you can have a cheat day. *mindblown*

    seriously... nothing anyone will say will help you unless you are actually willing to change.

    maybe look at yourself in the mirror butt naked and see for yourself that things need to change. maybe you need a change in partner.

    diet is 100x more important than exercise.

    It is interesting you are suggesting I go as far as getting rid of someone I love. You know nothing about my life, so it's kind of intrusive and I would appreciate if you would stop suggesting that. I don't think I need to go that far. I am willing to look at myself. My partner will stay with me regardless of my decisions and may even follow. You never know.

    I apologize for going to the extreme, and which may have clouded the helpfulness of my posts. more to the point, in referencing your first post - there is no magic trick and even getting a self help book is throwing money away. one thing that you can see which is consistent from all of the replies is that it requires diligence.

    the 10 months before i got married, i wanted to lose weight - at least 15lbs. Done - but there wasn't a magic trick or self help book i read but rather sweat, determination and eating right.

    I may not have been as constructive as other people but i've been around too many people who are all talk and are the very same people who complain. but as you can see from my posts, i tell them like it is.

    anyway i wish you the best and again, i apologize.

    Just because you did it without a self help book does not mean a book might not be helpful to others. Certainly there is no magic trick, but just as certainly there is no single right way change ones thinking. Different things work for different people.
  • jomtois
    jomtois Posts: 22 Member
    Fake it till you make it!

    Please explain. Thanks!

    Sort of along the lines of the commenter that said something like "Actions first then the thinking will follow". Even if you have the cravings for the fatty foods, act like you don't have them. Thus, "fake it". If you are craving chili fries, focus your energy on craving an apple. It will seem extremely silly and you won't think you will be able to fool yourself. You can even go so far as to go through all the motions and "give in" to the craving, but now eat the apple (or whatever alternative you choose to focus on instead of the chili fries).

    If you do this a few times (faking the craving and going through the motions) sooner or later you will "make it" being that you will find that you rarely crave those fatty things any more. You may find that you crave the healthy options since you have rewired/reahabitualized your brain.

    I know it sounds like hooey, but I can attest that this has worked for me. I have used this technique to eat more vegetables, which I don't really care for a lot of them. But I faked it (pretended I liked them and ate them) for a while. After not very long, I found I was actually looking forward to eating those things which I had thought I had hated. Not saying that I all of a sudden loved them, but I habituated myself to them to the point where I actually wanted to eat them willingly. In the same way I was able to replace one behavior with another one by faking it first (replace avoiding vegetables and choosing pasta/bread instead with eating vegetables) you should be able to replace one craving with another (fatty foods with something nourishing).

    I hope that made sense. Good luck!
  • jljshoe1979
    jljshoe1979 Posts: 325 Member
    You sound like me...fatty, fried, salty = yummy. One thing I've done over the years is try to find pleasure in the things I like about certain foods and build positives on that. For instance, I loooooove crunchy tacos. I love the meat, the crunch the flavor, everything. So here's what I do with tacos: first, I don't eat them anywhere, but home (this way I control what goes in them). Then, I make sure to use a lean meat (I love ground beef 93/7, but you could use ground turkey or chicken and maybe one day I will switch to that). Something else I do is load my veggies and salsa on before my cheese or sour cream. The only thing I now measure is the cheese and sour cream that goes on them. Finally, the most recent change I made is switching to low sodium flavoring, and it taste good to me. So, I went from ordering them all the time to making them at home and it is always a work in progress, but they are much healthy. I also switched from iceberg lettuce to green leaf lettuce all the time. As for your loved one, if you do the cooking, most of the time you will be making the decisions on what to eat. That's how it worked for me and my hubby. Luckily, he's not picky, but since I cook healthier; he also eats healthier.
  • Elzecat
    Elzecat Posts: 2,916 Member

    Other than getting a self-help book to help me rewire my brain, anybody have tricks that keep them from thinking about fatty foods?

    I find that I stop thinking about my favorite indulgences when I enjoy them.

    There's no need to completely cut anything out of your life. Have a small amount, enjoy it, and move on.

    ^^^^
  • clarkeje1
    clarkeje1 Posts: 1,641 Member
    I think that if you eat a little bit of what you are craving it helps with the obsessive thoughts about "bad" foods. Say I am craving McDonalds and I go and eat one plain cheeseburger, that usually helps to satisfy my craving while still keeping me under my calorie goal, rather than getting a big mac, large fry, and large coke and totally ruining the hard work that I put in. That helps me because if I am hungry and craving something I seriously can't stop thinking about it either!
  • OfficerFuzzy
    OfficerFuzzy Posts: 222 Member
    Put all these fatty foods in a blender and then try to eat them that way.
    This will only fail if it tastes good.
    Maybe put a little kale in it to make sure it tastes bad.

    Moderation is a good tool. I think the best way to do it is promise yourself you'll get that certain thing you love like once a week, or once a month so then you can tell yourself, "I can have XXX in X days. I just have to wait until then."

    For example once every two weeks I allow myself some Starbucks.
    Make your cravings part of the plan.
  • yea it's offensive/hard but if you don't want to hear these kinds of things and all you want is a pity party... you're at the wrong site.

    No, I don't want a pity party. I was just asking for advice. Thanks for your feedback.

    getting advice is one thing and definitely a lot of people have offered their opinions on what to do. i'm not going to be any different. there are things that work for some people and there are things that didnt work.

    you'll need to find what works for you - and you dont have to feel like you're depriving yourself because you can have a cheat day. *mindblown*

    seriously... nothing anyone will say will help you unless you are actually willing to change.

    maybe look at yourself in the mirror butt naked and see for yourself that things need to change. maybe you need a change in partner.

    diet is 100x more important than exercise.

    It is interesting you are suggesting I go as far as getting rid of someone I love. You know nothing about my life, so it's kind of intrusive and I would appreciate if you would stop suggesting that. I don't think I need to go that far. I am willing to look at myself. My partner will stay with me regardless of my decisions and may even follow. You never know.

    I apologize for going to the extreme, and which may have clouded the helpfulness of my posts. more to the point, in referencing your first post - there is no magic trick and even getting a self help book is throwing money away. one thing that you can see which is consistent from all of the replies is that it requires diligence.

    the 10 months before i got married, i wanted to lose weight - at least 15lbs. Done - but there wasn't a magic trick or self help book i read but rather sweat, determination and eating right.

    I may not have been as constructive as other people but i've been around too many people who are all talk and are the very same people who complain. but as you can see from my posts, i tell them like it is.

    anyway i wish you the best and again, i apologize.

    Just because you did it without a self help book does not mean a book might not be helpful to others. Certainly there is no magic trick, but just as certainly there is no single right way change ones thinking. Different things work for different people.

    thanks for reaffirming what i already said about different things working for different people - however, how many books is one going to read, or how many times are they going to read the same book before actually putting it to work?

    the one thing i did say that worked for everyone is diligence.
  • BitterGoil
    BitterGoil Posts: 32 Member
    yea it's offensive/hard but if you don't want to hear these kinds of things and all you want is a pity party... you're at the wrong site.

    No, I don't want a pity party. I was just asking for advice. Thanks for your feedback.

    getting advice is one thing and definitely a lot of people have offered their opinions on what to do. i'm not going to be any different. there are things that work for some people and there are things that didnt work.

    you'll need to find what works for you - and you dont have to feel like you're depriving yourself because you can have a cheat day. *mindblown*

    seriously... nothing anyone will say will help you unless you are actually willing to change.

    maybe look at yourself in the mirror butt naked and see for yourself that things need to change. maybe you need a change in partner.

    diet is 100x more important than exercise.

    It is interesting you are suggesting I go as far as getting rid of someone I love. You know nothing about my life, so it's kind of intrusive and I would appreciate if you would stop suggesting that. I don't think I need to go that far. I am willing to look at myself. My partner will stay with me regardless of my decisions and may even follow. You never know.

    I apologize for going to the extreme, and which may have clouded the helpfulness of my posts. more to the point, in referencing your first post - there is no magic trick and even getting a self help book is throwing money away. one thing that you can see which is consistent from all of the replies is that it requires diligence.

    the 10 months before i got married, i wanted to lose weight - at least 15lbs. Done - but there wasn't a magic trick or self help book i read but rather sweat, determination and eating right.

    I may not have been as constructive as other people but i've been around too many people who are all talk and are the very same people who complain. but as you can see from my posts, i tell them like it is.

    anyway i wish you the best and again, i apologize.

    I appreciate a straight-talker, I'm pretty much the same way. I also understand it's a tough road and there is no sugar-coating when it comes to this stuff. I just couldn't break up with someone I love when it's something I have to deal with in myself. Thanks.
  • BitterGoil
    BitterGoil Posts: 32 Member
    I was "trying" to lose weight for a few months before coming onto MFP and logging religiously. That's when the actual weight loss started, before that it was just super frustrating: I was trying to be "careful" but with no real framework and so many calories would sneak in. And I'd succumb to cravings all the time. I let myself pig out for a few weeks to get it out of my system, gained a few more pounds (but under 5), and finally hit a point where I could resolve to be serious. Now that I'm starting to see some weight go, I don't even want to binge anymore, it feels too good to see my body coming back to the way I want it. But I think I needed to let myself say screw it for a bit and go on a bit of a bender before I could really tighten the reins again.

    I have the same issue with my partner too - we LOVE to eat together, and when we're traveling it's a delicious disaster. But now I make sure that I'm in charge of the shopping and the cooking, so that I can make meals that are lean but still delicious, and he can add in cheese, oil, sour cream, etc. as he wants to the final product. And I try to keep eating out to a minimum, because it's just too easy to not know what you're actually eating and eat too much of it.

    I've recently gone on a bender actually: Thai drunken noodles, chili cheese fries, and Taco Bell a couple weeks ago! I also did some chili cheese fries this week. I think this is where I gained my my last 5 lbs. It's good to see that I'm not alone about the indulgent, bad habit kind of partner...I hope he will think about his health, too, when he sees how serious I get.
  • BitterGoil
    BitterGoil Posts: 32 Member
    Buy something in the fast food category and let it sit in the bag in your car with the logo showing until it goes putrid. That ought to cure you!

    It (Egg McMuffin) cured me. It only took one sunny afternoon. The thought of fast food now makes me gag.

    Wow, that's an interesting and unorthodox idea. I love all the unusual ideas people think of. Thanks!
  • I just wanted to say that THANK YOU for posting this and all the advice people have given out.
    I have the EXACT same issue as you, same down to being able to resist sweets, but not a cheeseburger for the life of me.

    Hopefully I'll be able to put some of these to use and be able to knock out the fast food long enough to rewire my way of thinking and start seeing results.
  • I have put things in my mouth that I love and actually spit it out in the sink, turned on water and disposal and ground the remaining food down the drain!!! I have been know to think about the food and even eat it if just in the trash!!! Yuk but.... I need to completely get rid of it!!!
  • BitterGoil
    BitterGoil Posts: 32 Member
    Thanks so much everybody for all your feedback on my question! You guys are awesome!!! :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
  • BitterGoil
    BitterGoil Posts: 32 Member
    I just wanted to say that THANK YOU for posting this and all the advice people have given out.
    I have the EXACT same issue as you, same down to being able to resist sweets, but not a cheeseburger for the life of me.

    Hopefully I'll be able to put some of these to use and be able to knock out the fast food long enough to rewire my way of thinking and start seeing results.

    You're welcome! Good luck to you! :flowerforyou: