Still think your 1200 or less diet is a good idea?

Can we spend the remaining 20 pages on this thread talking about chocolate bars and ice cream?

Trader Joe has the most delicious drk choc/sea salt covered almonds!!

I'm not an expert. I'm a moderately smart person who is trying to present a very simple concept to people who, for whatever reason, are very resistant to optimize their health and fitness.

Have you considered for any length of time maybe trying to be a little bit clearer about what you are trying to say in the future?

It is a very simple concept and could easily have been stated clearly and simply instead of a rhetorical title followed by links.

The latter is pretty open to interpretation.

You've got 150 posts here. I've got nearly 8500.

Believe me. I have tried a variety of different approaches. This was but one approach. It won't be my last.

I've helped lots of people on this site find their way and I continue to do so. It almost makes it worth it in the face of being called a judgmental *kitten*, etc.

So the latest from Expert Taso before that thread locked was "why the hostility?" He thinks he was merely advocating for people to pick their own calorie amts rather than go by "dogma." Yet all he said in his OP was the title: "Still think your 1200 or less diet is a good idea?"

Doesn't that sound a tad hostile to the idea that 1200 could be right for ANYBODY?

can I ask you: why did you choose 1200 cal?

It works for me, and gives me enough good food to eat, plus snacks. I am 61, not terribly overweight, not very active, and female. This is the amt. I need to eat in order to lose weight. I HAVE eaten more-- that's why I have a weight issue! So, is this OK with you?

He only asked a question, you seem to have one hell of an attitude problem.

For those who mentioned CaliforniaGirl2012. She defends people's rights to eat at a calorie deficit that is appropriate for them. Because she is older and very short, she DID have to eat at a lower calorie level to lose her weight.
The reason you no longer see her on here, is that some people were tired of her sharing her success story on here and admitting that she ate at 1200, and constantly reported her for spamming and for advocating unhealthy diet practices. She eventually 'struck out' and is permanently banned from posting on the open forums.

Too bad. Since she was the main reason that I stuck it out on here after the first couple of weeks. I kept having people say that I was wrong to eat at 1200, but I knew that I couldn't lose weight eating at the levels they said I should be. So finding Bobbi's story showed me that for some people, we do need to eat at a lower level, and that it can be done in a safe and healthy manner. She has inspired so many people on here, and she is now maxed out on her FL with a waiting list that has hundreds more.

Unfortunately, the loudest and most opinionated posters on here, seem to set the environment, and gang up on those who disagree with them, to get them banned.

Trader Joe has the most delicious drk choc/sea salt covered almonds!!

Ooo I've not heard of Trader Joe', but over this side of the pond we have a chocolate company called Montezuma that do a bloody lush dark chocolate with sea salt.

Chocolate and salt works so well it's almost criminal

I apologize if you've already answered this because I haven't read the thread in its entirety. But I am curious what you think the minimum safe number of calories is for a person to eat?

There was a super morbidly obese man who fasted for a year under doctor supervision without encountering any medical problems.

The answer to your question is, I do not know.

Trader Joe has the most delicious drk choc/sea salt covered almonds!!

Ooo I've not heard of Trader Joe', but over this side of the pond we have a chocolate company called Montezuma that do a bloody lush dark chocolate with sea salt.

Chocolate and salt works so well it's almost criminal

obviously many of us have not been educated or practiced in caloric needs when we first come onto a site like this...1200 for me was a starting place... my plan all along was that it may need altering as I go....So that's why ... just a place to start.

so then why not give a some thought to advice from people who have quite a bit of experience in this area?

1200 Calories is what this and all other diet programs tell me is appropriate for someone Who is a Female 4' 10' tall with a small body frame. I have tried losing eating more, but I do not lose weight. Maybe, it will not be appropriate for taller or bigger people but there is not a diet plan out there that tells me I can eat more. Been on this plan for 18 months and have lost 92 pounds. It is sustainable and can be healthy.

1200 Calories is what this and all other diet programs tell me is appropriate for someone Who is a Female 4' 10' tall with a small body frame. I have tried losing eating more, but I do not lose weight. Maybe, it will not be appropriate for taller or bigger people but there is not a diet plan out there that tells me I can eat more. Been on this plan for 18 months and have lost 92 pounds. It is sustainable and can be healthy.

for you - absolutely. but the number of calories a body requires is DIRECTLY proportionate to how large that body is. it makes sense that you'd only need to net 1200 at 4'10"