Is diet pop REALLY that bad fro you????
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I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.0
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Absolutely!!alright how about THIS:
If you are open to the world of holistic medicine, and see value in it, then you will likely feel that there are issues with aspartame, and will, thus, stay away from diet sodas.
If you subscribe only to the things that have been officially proven through published scientific studies, and discount the value of holistic medicine, you will likely feel that aspartame is 100% safe.
OP: which category do you fall under?
Everyone else: we can stop arguing now because no one will convince anyone else they're wrong. Sound good?
Probably quite true. People who like to do something will not take kindly to the suggestion that it might not be good for them and dismiss it out of hand.
Even arsenic in tiny amounts will not produce any apparent effect...until it kills you from bowel cancer. But I know someone who knows that his well is contaminated with arsenic and yet drinks the water and claims that he has absolutely no ill-effects from it. In spite of the fact that the husband and wife who owned the house before he did, BOTH died of bowel cancer, within six months of each other. Coincidence---probably not. But you cannot convince my friend.0 -
I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.0 -
I stopped only because it made me want to snack. It wasn't the artificial sweeteners because I still use them in my iced tea and coffee. I still have a diet root beer with a burger or pizza about once a month, but I no longer drink it in the quantities I used to.0
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I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol0 -
I'm not saying that diet soda, or soda in general, is great for you (we've all seen that video where the can of coke cleans the engine gears), but now a days you can find a study to support anything and everything causing cancer, strokes, tumors, death. You name it, something new every day causes it (including the medications to ward off something else!).
A can of Diet Pepsi at lunch makes me happy and helps me get through my afternoon slump at work. It's mental, and it works for me. So I drink it.
If it works for you, drink it too
Amphetamines would probably work equally well...
Why won't anyone ever try just adding a twist from an organic lemon wedge to a glass of iced water (and because it is organic, you can throw the peel and all right in the water). It is a very refreshing drink with hardly any calories and it has potassium, citrate, and di-limonine. All very valuable substances. Aspartame, not at all valuable.
*facepalm*
more popcorn
Why deride something without even having tried it?0 -
If it doesn't cause you problems and makes you happy, drink up.
As I have no idea who this poster is I am hopefully safe in agreeing with them without being accused of us being in a clique together...so...
^^this.0 -
* I am not part of any gang, clique or club on MFP despite rumor. This agreement is based on information only.
Posse, then you must be in someone's posse, right?0 -
I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol
Don't mind them, Coach Reddy. Anyone who disputes the fact that science cannot "prove" anything is a scientific ignoramus. I can guarantee that if you polled any number of real scientists, they would confirm what I have said.0 -
I read on the internet that diet pepsi will cause body odor, gout, herpes, cooties, bad cell phone coverage, and cause your car battery to fail early. pretty sure its true since its on the internet.0
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Why won't anyone ever try just adding a twist from an organic lemon wedge to a glass of iced water (and because it is organic, you can throw the peel and all right in the water).
But, but i heard that sliced lemon wedges are tainted with feces, like the underside of restaurant chairs!0 -
I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol
I'm pretty sure the element that you are missing here is that studies HAVE proven them safe. All the studies attempting to prove that they are bad in some way have failed.Don't mind them, Coach Reddy. Anyone who disputes the fact that science cannot "prove" anything is a scientific ignoramus. I can guarantee that if you polled any number of real scientists, they would confirm what I have said.
See comment to Coach Reddy. You can't pick and choose science either. You can't say that what has been established is irrelevant and what has yet to be proven should be given credence.0 -
You have to eat organic vegan and drink only water or tea with nothing but a twist o lemon in it to survive. And even then, you are still going to die anyway.0
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I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol
No, you tried telling us that science can't establish causation. Then I tried to teach you about control studies. Then you posted some stuff by Hume about "proving" this or that. It didn't make much sense and I got a warning or something about it.
You tried to pass off correlation as causation and you made a big error. You told us you're not a scientist or a researcher.
So, yeah.0 -
I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
Science CAN prove things. It's just a matter of eliminating all but one variable to truly test vs. a control group. Trying to prove things related to the human body/ lifestyle choices just has so many factors that can play into it, it only seems impossible. That's why they can only say they hypothesize and suggest links they find. It's really up to people though to read the actual study and see if it was carried out in a realistic manner.
Sure, aspartame can be linked to cancer, diabetes, etc. if you have enough of it, but who really drinks their body weight in diet soda every day? Drinking too much water in a short amount of time can also kill you. Too much of anything that will throw your body's biology out of whack is likely to have adverse effects0 -
I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol
No, you tried telling us that science can't establish causation. Then I tried to teach you about control studies. Then you posted some stuff by Hume about "proving" this or that. It didn't make much sense and I got a warning or something about it.
You tried to pass off correlation as causation and you made a big error. You told us you're not a scientist or a researcher.
So, yeah.
I said science cannot prove causation. which is true. it can only prove an extremely high likelihood of causation. Not the same thing.0 -
I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol
No, you tried telling us that science can't establish causation. Then I tried to teach you about control studies. Then you posted some stuff by Hume about "proving" this or that. It didn't make much sense and I got a warning or something about it.
You tried to pass off correlation as causation and you made a big error. You told us you're not a scientist or a researcher.
So, yeah.
I said science cannot prove causation. which is true. it can only prove an extremely high likelihood of causation. Not the same thing.
yes it can. see my above post.0 -
Does anyone other than me think there is more to Mike_littlerock's profile photo than meets the eye??0
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Mine too. I am now very frightened about global warming.0
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I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol
No, you tried telling us that science can't establish causation. Then I tried to teach you about control studies. Then you posted some stuff by Hume about "proving" this or that. It didn't make much sense and I got a warning or something about it.
You tried to pass off correlation as causation and you made a big error. You told us you're not a scientist or a researcher.
So, yeah.
I said science cannot prove causation. which is true. it can only prove an extremely high likelihood of causation. Not the same thing.
yes it can. see my above post.
yeah your above post isn't more accurate than my college textbooks... lol0 -
Why won't anyone ever try just adding a twist from an organic lemon wedge to a glass of iced water (and because it is organic, you can throw the peel and all right in the water).
But, but i heard that sliced lemon wedges are tainted with feces, like the underside of restaurant chairs!
That's why I always wash my lemons with a fruit and vegetable wash designed for that purpose. 0 -
I feel like every study I've ever read about artificial sweeteners being bad for you have been like, "maybe, we think so, possibly, but maybe not". I like diet coke and drink it maybe a few times a month because I've developed a preference for water. But I honestly don't feel any different after drinking it.
That is the way science works. It can never "prove" anything. Evidence that is obtained from scientific studies "suggests" "supports the hypothesis", etc.
i tried telling these folks that very thing a couple days ago and they wouldn't believe it. lol
No, you tried telling us that science can't establish causation. Then I tried to teach you about control studies. Then you posted some stuff by Hume about "proving" this or that. It didn't make much sense and I got a warning or something about it.
You tried to pass off correlation as causation and you made a big error. You told us you're not a scientist or a researcher.
So, yeah.
I said science cannot prove causation. which is true.
Untrue.
http://www.statisticslectures.com/topics/correlationcausation/
I'm sorry, but I don't really believe you have ever taken any courses in statistics or research. Causation is proved with controlled experiments. Correlation is established with the qualitative studies, much like the ones you refer to all the time. Qualitative studies established the need for controlled studies.
The problem is that you rely on the evidence of correlational studies, but the controlled studies refute those results.0 -
yeah your above post isn't more accurate than my college textbooks... lol
I'm sorry... did you actually read them?
I'm in a research class right now... honor roll student... and what you are saying is complete BS. You are wrong!0 -
Current scientific theory suggests that there is a strong "association" between gravity and objects falling from the sky. Further research is needed as causation cannot be proven by the scientific method.0
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Current scientific theory suggests that their is a strong "association" between gravity and objects falling from the sky. Further research is needed as causation cannot be proven by the scientific method.
I started to use that as an example. :laugh:0 -
Does anyone other than me think there is more to Mike_littlerock's profile photo than meets the eye??
You may be on to something there...or HE may be on to something there.0 -
Does anyone other than me think there is more to Mike_littlerock's profile photo than meets the eye??
hahahaha.... no, why?0 -
I just want to offer my thanks to the OP. I was really missing the lunacy of the aspartame thread.
Now we can have it all over again!0 -
Your argument of comparing diet soda to amphetamines -- based on price and whether or not they require a prescription -- doesn't apply to anything at all. That was the point. In pecuniam sic transit gloria.
post hoc ergo propter hocI'm not saying that diet soda, or soda in general, is great for you (we've all seen that video where the can of coke cleans the engine gears), but now a days you can find a study to support anything and everything causing cancer, strokes, tumors, death. You name it, something new every day causes it (including the medications to ward off something else!).
A can of Diet Pepsi at lunch makes me happy and helps me get through my afternoon slump at work. It's mental, and it works for me. So I drink it.
If it works for you, drink it too
Amphetamines would probably work equally well...
But they are awfully expensive and require a prescription to obtain legally. :ohwell:
Would you take them if they were the price of a diet soda and didn't require a prescription? Honestly--yes...or no?
No---does not apply to my argument.0 -
People will always debate this topic. I can see how it's bad for you. I can see how it isn't. However, I have Type 1 Diabetes, so there's no risk of me getting Type 2 from drinking diet pop. LOL
I enjoy a can just about every day. Sometimes 2 cans. Been doing it for years, as it IS my alternative to water or tea. Sure I can adjust my insulin if I decide to have a can of regular. But why would I want to, when diet pop doesn't affect my blood sugar at all?
Artificial sweeteners are pretty much a part of my life. My weight is directly related to what I eat, how much insulin I take, and exercise level.0
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