Is diet pop REALLY that bad fro you????

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  • CristinaL1983
    CristinaL1983 Posts: 1,119 Member
    Please let the answer be Shrodinger's cat... Please let the answer be Shrodinger's cat... (fingers crossed and giggling to myself)

    I'm going to guess.....down quarks. No, no, wait...up quarks.

    Oh shiz, this is what the Higgs Boson does, isn't it? It flavors diet pop.


    No, no, you've got it all wrong. It only adds that magical fizz on your tongue. It doesn't flavor it. Please, particle physics? Come on...

    unless it is a strange quark then all bets are off

    But what if it's strange quarks and strange antiquarks? Then the strangeness can be quantified... Of course, then bets can again be taken.

    wouldn't they just meet and annihilate? And I don't think bets can be taken unless someone is there to observe the bet being taken

    See, that is what the bets are for. Mutual annihilation or scatter? I'm going with 50 on scatter. We will meet at the LHC to test this. Bets must be in before we meet.

    Been awhile since I have been to CERN, meet you there

    Haven't been yet. We could take this bet to the next level and if we say they scatter, we could have an over/under on the time from scatter to annihilation...

    I'm in. I've always wanted to see ALICE in person.


    Oh, and If your child says "2+4 = 11", you don't congratulate them on having an opinion and give them a star, you show them their error.

    So if you come in here claiming that quantum freakin' mechanics proves the validity of holistic medicine, you better have some sort of justification. I couldn't possibly care what you eat, drink, or medicate yourself with, but if you bring that non-science garbage around, someone is going to call you on it.

    but to make amends, here ya' go
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    Awesome! Also, what is your field in Geology? I've taken a bunch of GEO electives (hydro/chem) always cool.
  • ThickMcRunFast
    ThickMcRunFast Posts: 22,511 Member

    Awesome! Also, what is your field in Geology? I've taken a bunch of GEO electives (hydro/chem) always cool.

    PhD in geobiology, but right now I'm postdocing in stable isotope geochemistry.

    I literally had an argument that was more intense than this thread over vacuum fittings today. Like someone said, its page 19/20, the OP must have abandoned this thread hours ago :)
    What's your field?
  • pinkraynedropjacki
    pinkraynedropjacki Posts: 3,027 Member
    Have you seen the salt levels in diet soda? Just because you get told it wont hurt you... does not mean that it's only the 'fake sugar' that will. Diet soda has more salt in it than regular soda.

    Just sayin.

    Last I checked Diet coke had less sodium than regular coke.

    really cause according to the CC website (coke) there is more sodium in diet than regular.

    Just sayin
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Have you seen the salt levels in diet soda? Just because you get told it wont hurt you... does not mean that it's only the 'fake sugar' that will. Diet soda has more salt in it than regular soda.

    Just sayin.

    Last I checked Diet coke had less sodium than regular coke.



    really cause according to the CC website (coke) there is more sodium in diet than regular.

    Just sayin

    I just went onto the site.

    16 fl oz Diet Coke: 30mg
    16 fl oz regular Coke: 30mg

    Edited for typo
  • CristinaL1983
    CristinaL1983 Posts: 1,119 Member

    Awesome! Also, what is your field in Geology? I've taken a bunch of GEO electives (hydro/chem) always cool.

    PhD in geobiology, but right now I'm postdocing in stable isotope geochemistry.

    I literally had an argument that was more intense than this thread over vacuum fittings today. Like someone said, its page 19/20, the OP must have abandoned this thread hours ago :)
    What's your field?

    I'm getting my undergrad in General Physics (BS). I initially wanted to do Biophysics but it's not offered at my university, I thought about double majoring but then my university added an entire neuroscience department which got me thinking that I might do a masters in neuroscience instead... I'm kind of undecided. I love Physics and the way it relates to everything so I'm having a little trouble pinning down a definite field. Lol... You should have seen some of the arguments I've gotten into in labs about experimental procedure. This pales in comparison.

    I don't really know anything about Geobiology but Geochemistry sounds really cool.
  • chessgeekdavidb
    chessgeekdavidb Posts: 208 Member
    Have you seen the salt levels in diet soda? Just because you get told it wont hurt you... does not mean that it's only the 'fake sugar' that will. Diet soda has more salt in it than regular soda.

    Just sayin.

    Last I checked Diet coke had less sodium than regular coke.


    really cause according to the CC website (coke) there is more sodium in diet than regular.

    Just sayin


    I just checked, 20 oz bottle coke 75mg 20 oz bottle diet coke 70mg. Diet used to have more until they change a long time ago from sodium benzoate to potassium benzoate for a preservative.
  • redladywitch
    redladywitch Posts: 799 Member
    No, it's not bad for you. Driving a motor vehicle is so darn bad for the environment though. :wink:
  • iamspdd
    iamspdd Posts: 134 Member
    I drink a diet coke every day. Just one. However, the sweetness in it causes you to crave sweets. At least I know it does for me. When I was drinking it all day long I ate all day long.
    What I do know is, it's bad for your teeth and causes you to eat more.
  • volume77
    volume77 Posts: 670 Member
    yes it sure is, nutra sweet can cause migraines. it is better to drink regular coke or tea with no sugar. artifical sweetners are linked to cancer, migraine headaches etc



    its better to drink regular coke than diet?????????????
    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    "You know what they say about assuming things."

    All of science is based on assumptions.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
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  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    This forum is named "Is diet pop Really that bad for you???? People should be able to state their belief without harassment. If you want to point out that you disagree and why great. If you want to say that you feel your belief is based on fact and that you believe other's opinions are not based on fact. Cool. But harassment? COme on. To take over a thread in the manner you and others do is really a sign you need to learn manners. You're behavior actually makes you look bad. THe mocking has got to stop. THe I'm GOd attitudes really needs to stop. You probably would have a great conversation with me in person, it shouldn't be a degrading one simply because we're online. I'm okay with you having a different opinion. I'm sure most people posting differing opinions are fine with you having a different opinion. WHy does your opinion trump everyone else's?

    Ok, so let's clear up the concept of fact vs. opinion. Here are some examples.
    Fact: Scientists have not found conclusive evidence supporting the hypothesis that aspartame is harmful to humans.
    Opinion: "THe I'm GOd attitudes really needs to stop."

    And for the record, none of us has the attitude that we are actually a fictional character described in ancient myths. THAT would be crazy!

    I will add that most of what you perceive as animosity is probably due to the persistence of questions because some of us are interested in the basis for your opinion. It's difficult to state that your opinion is not based in fact if we cannot check it out. You know what they say about assuming things.

    Also, I think you may overestimate the social generosity of some people (most specifically myself). I think that people deserve a level of respect because we are all just people but I don't think silly ideas merit any semblance of respect. I had a very similar discussion with a recent boss about artificial sweeteners (she insisted that artificial sweeteners are the "holocaust of our generation"), bottom line is that I no longer work for her. I lose respect for people's intellect when they insist that ideas with no factual basis are truth and simply can't see any reason to spend my time with those people. In real life, we wouldn't even have a conversation, much less a very nice conversation.


    This exactly.


    The following is an illustration of the damage that can be done by silly ideas:

    Baby suffered from severe eczema Parents wouldn't get medical help - Crown Baby died from infections

    IN the last months of her life, baby Gloria Thomas suffered such terrible eczema her skin would weep and peel, sticking to her clothing when she was changed.

    Despite her bleeding, crying and malnutrition, her mother and homeopath father failed to get conventional medical help before she died a painful death, a Sydney jury has been told.

    Thomas Sam, 42, and his IT professional wife, Manju Sam, 36, have pleaded not guilty to their nine-month-old daughter's manslaughter by gross criminal negligence in Sydney in May 2002.

    In the Crown's opening address to the New South Wales Supreme Court jury, Mark Tedeschi QC said Gloria's parents failed to get her proper medical attention in the last five months of her life.

    He said Thomas Sam's sister had pleaded with her brother on a number of occasions to get Gloria some conventional medicine.

    "He responded by saying: 'I am not able to do that,'" Mr Tedeschi said.

    "Instead, Thomas Sam and Manju Sam gave to Gloria various types of homeopathic drops."

    He said Gloria spent much of the final months "crying, irritable, scratching".

    "The only thing that gave her solace was to suck on her mother's breast."

    Born in July 2001, Gloria thrived until November when a nurse noticed her eczema and told the mother to see a skin specialist.

    Instead of doing this, Mr Tedeschi said the mother took her to a GP who was extremely concerned at the eczema, saying it was the most severe case he had ever seen.

    Although the GP wrote a referral letter to a specialist, the parents never saw him.

    Mr Tedeschi said Gloria's skin would break when her clothing and nappy were changed and she became thinner and weaker, which allowed infections to enter her body.

    The eczema and infections placed "an enormous toll on her body" which meant all the nutrition she took in was spent on fighting this off, instead of being used to grow.

    At four months, she weighed 6.5kg but at nine months she was down to 5.3kg and died of septicemia.

    Mr Tedeschi said the parents were married in India.

    The father was educated in homeopathy in India and in Australia undertook a masters degree in health administration, while his wife had a science degree and a postgraduate diplomat in computers.

    "They both come from very supportive, giving families," he said.

    Thomas Sam worked as a homeopath in Sydney and taught the subject at a Sydney college.

    Mr Tedeschi will continue his opening address tomorrow, at the trial before Justice Peter Johnson.

    http://www.news.com.au/national-news/babys-eczema-death-was-parents-fault/story-e6frfkvr-1225708504277

    So what? For every story like this, one could come up with 1000 unnecessary deaths caused by conventional medicine.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Have you seen the salt levels in diet soda? Just because you get told it wont hurt you... does not mean that it's only the 'fake sugar' that will. Diet soda has more salt in it than regular soda.

    Just sayin.

    Last I checked Diet coke had less sodium than regular coke.



    really cause according to the CC website (coke) there is more sodium in diet than regular.

    Just sayin

    I just went onto the site.

    16 fl oz Diet Coke: 30mg
    16 fl oz regular Coke: 30mg

    Edited for typo

    A typical can of diet cola has about the same amount of sodium as three baby carrots.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.

    There is no reason to eat or drink a lot of things that we do other than the enjoyment we get from it.

    And those are the foods that should removed first. There are many foods that can be enjoyed and have many nutrients. I enjoy toasted wasabi seaweed, nuts and seeds, raw cacao, and a lot of other things now instead of candy and banana smoothies instead of pop. It's the psychological attachment that needs to go.

    Exactly. Living to eat is how many got here. Eating to live is a much better idea.
  • Mhaney
    Mhaney Posts: 467 Member
    I personally, cannot tolerate any artificial sweetener. It'll give me migraines for days......
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.

    There is no reason to eat or drink a lot of things that we do other than the enjoyment we get from it.

    And those are the foods that should removed first. There are many foods that can be enjoyed and have many nutrients. I enjoy toasted wasabi seaweed, nuts and seeds, raw cacao, and a lot of other things now instead of candy and banana smoothies instead of pop. It's the psychological attachment that needs to go.

    Exactly. Living to eat is how many got here. Eating to live is a much better idea.

    No, an excess and lack of discipline is how a lot of people got here. Moderation is key. Gluttony is not the answer, nor is sustenance-level consumption.
  • iAMsmiling
    iAMsmiling Posts: 2,394 Member
    This should do for post 500

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  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.

    There is no reason to eat or drink a lot of things that we do other than the enjoyment we get from it.

    And those are the foods that should removed first. There are many foods that can be enjoyed and have many nutrients. I enjoy toasted wasabi seaweed, nuts and seeds, raw cacao, and a lot of other things now instead of candy and banana smoothies instead of pop. It's the psychological attachment that needs to go.

    Exactly. Living to eat is how many got here. Eating to live is a much better idea.

    No, an excess and lack of discipline is how a lot of people got here. Moderation is key. Gluttony is not the answer, nor is sustenance-level consumption.

    How is that a "no" to what the other poster and I said?? Do you like to disagree just for the sake of disagreement? Gluttony doesn't cover every case of obesity. There are old people who gain body fat on 1200 calories a day. It is called "sarcopenic obesity" and is a very serious problem in the elderly.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.

    There is no reason to eat or drink a lot of things that we do other than the enjoyment we get from it.

    And those are the foods that should removed first. There are many foods that can be enjoyed and have many nutrients. I enjoy toasted wasabi seaweed, nuts and seeds, raw cacao, and a lot of other things now instead of candy and banana smoothies instead of pop. It's the psychological attachment that needs to go.

    Exactly. Living to eat is how many got here. Eating to live is a much better idea.

    No, an excess and lack of discipline is how a lot of people got here. Moderation is key. Gluttony is not the answer, nor is sustenance-level consumption.

    How is that a "no" to what the other poster and I said?? Do you like to disagree just for the sake of disagreement? Gluttony doesn't cover every case of obesity. There are old people who gain body fat on 1200 calories a day. It is called "sarcopenic obesity" and is a very serious problem in the elderly.
    Irony to the max. Diet soda didn't cause a few elderly people to become obese and that has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.

    There is no reason to eat or drink a lot of things that we do other than the enjoyment we get from it.

    And those are the foods that should removed first. There are many foods that can be enjoyed and have many nutrients. I enjoy toasted wasabi seaweed, nuts and seeds, raw cacao, and a lot of other things now instead of candy and banana smoothies instead of pop. It's the psychological attachment that needs to go.

    Exactly. Living to eat is how many got here. Eating to live is a much better idea.

    No, an excess and lack of discipline is how a lot of people got here. Moderation is key. Gluttony is not the answer, nor is sustenance-level consumption.

    Sustenance is what everybody should be striving for. Finding the nutrient dense foods their body is craving. Being fat is eating the wrong foods not gluttony. You can be a glutton of fruits and vegetables and have no problem with weight.
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.

    There is no reason to eat or drink a lot of things that we do other than the enjoyment we get from it.

    And those are the foods that should removed first. There are many foods that can be enjoyed and have many nutrients. I enjoy toasted wasabi seaweed, nuts and seeds, raw cacao, and a lot of other things now instead of candy and banana smoothies instead of pop. It's the psychological attachment that needs to go.

    Exactly. Living to eat is how many got here. Eating to live is a much better idea.

    No, an excess and lack of discipline is how a lot of people got here. Moderation is key. Gluttony is not the answer, nor is sustenance-level consumption.

    How is that a "no" to what the other poster and I said?? Do you like to disagree just for the sake of disagreement? Gluttony doesn't cover every case of obesity. There are old people who gain body fat on 1200 calories a day. It is called "sarcopenic obesity" and is a very serious problem in the elderly.

    It was a no to you, not the previous poster. I found what you said incorrect. Successful diet (as in food consumption rather than weightloss regimen) for the majority of human beings is all about moderation rather than abstention. Also, I said a lot of people here not all cases of obesity.

    Yes, sarcopenic obesity can be a problem with the elderly, but those who are not genetically predisposed to it can fight it off and reverse it with an exercise and diet program.
  • smittieaj
    smittieaj Posts: 151 Member
    Wow, this thread is still going?
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Sustenance is what everybody should be striving for.
    No thanks, I like being happy and healthy. I'd say "have a nice life" but that isn't going to happen with sustenance as a goal.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,030 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.
    Lol, you mean like all the stuff on the cabinets in the back of your profile pic? I'd rather have a diet soda because at least I KNOW what's in it. Supplements have NO REGULATION which means you really DON'T KNOW what's in that bottle. Especially if the raw material it's manufactured from is China.

    And there are lots of "substances" we don't need. Don't need milk. Don't need alcohol. Don't need nachos. But I'd rather be HAPPY enjoying having them in moderation, than eating perfect a being grumpy. But that's just me.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,030 Member
    Sustenance is what everybody should be striving for. Finding the nutrient dense foods their body is craving. Being fat is eating the wrong foods not gluttony. You can be a glutton of fruits and vegetables and have no problem with weight.
    So there shouldn't be any fat vegetarians then.

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  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    Sustenance is what everybody should be striving for.
    No thanks, I like being happy and healthy. I'd say "have a nice life" but that isn't going to happen with sustenance as a goal.

    What you don't want your food to give you strength?
  • the coke and sprite zero's can replace a diet drink in a New York Minute. they have no calories and are much better for you then all the diet options.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,030 Member
    Sustenance is what everybody should be striving for.
    Lol, comatose people sustain on tube feeding. Nah, I'd rather eat what I need and want to.

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  • TheDevastator
    TheDevastator Posts: 1,626 Member
    There's no reason to drink it unless you are addicted to it. It's just a bunch of substances your body doesn't need and are most likely harmful.
    Lol, you mean like all the stuff on the cabinets in the back of your profile pic? I'd rather have a diet soda because at least I KNOW what's in it. Supplements have NO REGULATION which means you really DON'T KNOW what's in that bottle. Especially if the raw material it's manufactured from is China.

    And there are lots of "substances" we don't need. Don't need milk. Don't need alcohol. Don't need nachos. But I'd rather be HAPPY enjoying having them in moderation, than eating perfect a being grumpy. But that's just me.

    Most of those are vitamins not other supplements, and are suppose to be helpful unlike diet soda. What you've never taken vitamins before?

    I agree with you, there are a lot of substances we don't need and diet soda is one of them. I am very happy with no diet soda and I bet I feel better from a banana smoothie than you do with diet soda. I'm not saying don't drink diet soda, I have in the past. I'm just stating that there's no reason to drink it. If you need water drink water. Diet soda has a bunch of stuff that is most likely harmful.