Is diet pop REALLY that bad fro you????
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Correlation does not, never has, and never will imply causation. Unless biochemical studies are done to at least show some reasonable mechanism by which artificial sweeteners COULD have all those nasty effects people are claiming, there is absolutely NO reason to believe they do. To explain the correlation, there are alternatives, many of them. Maybe one would go something like:
People who have difficulty maintaining a healthy diet are more prone to buying diet drinks because they see diet drinks as an easy way to subtract 100 calories here and there. However, their eating habits do not change, therefore they are STILL at risk for all the negative effects that obesity has...like cardiovascular/cerebrovascular events, diabetes, etc.
That's called the 3rd, unmeasured variable. In that alternative scenario, the 3rd variable is that certain people crave sweets. Those people are drawn to diet drinks because they are still sweet. But what we don't know is what ELSE they are consuming. Since they like sweet stuff, we may hazard a guess.
And before someone raises their hand and says, "But wait! I love sweets, drink diet soda, and my BMI kicks *kitten*!" you should know that finding "risk" is not a 100% game. So among the numbers, there are bound to be in fact MANY people who can describe themselves as I just did. Just not as many as there are others who have the sweets issue. And, voila, a risk is perceived.
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I have not had my 32OZ Diet Pepsi in over 7 weeks and do not feel any bettter or notice any changes in my weight or cravings. I keep hearing that I shouldn't drink Diet Pepsi it is so bad for you. I really miss it and looked forward to having it every day. Is there really any reason not to have it if I am not noticing any difference? Anyone else experienced this??
Stop listening to fear mongers and idiots and drink your diet pepsi, you're fine
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actually I am going to disagree with my initial 'this' you should not drink diet pepsi - go with coke zero its way better
Oooo! I didn't catch that. I have to agree with this this. Although I prefer Cherry Coke Zero, but now we're nit picking.
THERE'S A CHERRY COKE ZERO?!?! Omg, between this thread and the pop tart thread, I have so many things to add to my shopping list!0 -
I drink Pepsi Max with a tin foil hat on so I think I'm ok :P0
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yes it sure is, nutra sweet can cause migraines. it is better to drink regular coke or tea with no sugar. artifical sweetners are linked to cancer, migraine headaches etc
Peanuts are linked to anaphylactic shock.0 -
yes it sure is, nutra sweet can cause migraines. it is better to drink regular coke or tea with no sugar. artifical sweetners are linked to cancer, migraine headaches etc
Peanuts are linked to anaphylactic shock.
Oncologists are linked to cancer0 -
I have not had my 32OZ Diet Pepsi in over 7 weeks and do not feel any bettter or notice any changes in my weight or cravings. I keep hearing that I shouldn't drink Diet Pepsi it is so bad for you. I really miss it and looked forward to having it every day. Is there really any reason not to have it if I am not noticing any difference? Anyone else experienced this??
Stop listening to fear mongers and idiots and drink your diet pepsi, you're fine
This.
This
actually I am going to disagree with my initial 'this' you should not drink diet pepsi - go with coke zero its way better
Oooo! I didn't catch that. I have to agree with this this. Although I prefer Cherry Coke Zero, but now we're nit picking.
THERE'S A CHERRY COKE ZERO?!?! Omg, between this thread and the pop tart thread, I have so many things to add to my shopping list!
Welcome to living :drinker:0 -
I'm not going to indulge your attempts to further derail the thread. I shouldn't have the first time. Instead I'll repost this:alright how about THIS:
If you are open to the world of holistic medicine, and see value in it, then you will likely feel that there are issues with aspartame, and will, thus, stay away from diet sodas.
If you subscribe only to the things that have been officially proven through published scientific studies, and discount the value of holistic medicine, you will likely feel that aspartame is 100% safe.
OP: which category do you fall under?
Everyone else: we can stop arguing now because no one will convince anyone else they're wrong. Sound good?
Funny that you advocate buying into the realm of unproven holistic medicine, which is full of extracts and substances whose efficacy and long-term effects have not been studied, but reject something like aspartame which has been studied more than almost any other substance.
they absolutely have been studied, just not by the people YOU want them to have been studied by. :happy:
ORLY?
What controls were in place?
Double-blind?
What long term studies were conducted to show that there were no harmful effects?
Herbs have been used for many thousands of years. Harmful effects would have been noticed by now. There has been a fair bit of research done in Germany--where many physicians will prescribe an herb before a pharmaceutical.0 -
yes it sure is, nutra sweet can cause migraines. it is better to drink regular coke or tea with no sugar. artifical sweetners are linked to cancer, migraine headaches etc
Peanuts are linked to anaphylactic shock.
Oncologists are linked to cancer
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I'm not going to indulge your attempts to further derail the thread. I shouldn't have the first time. Instead I'll repost this:alright how about THIS:
If you are open to the world of holistic medicine, and see value in it, then you will likely feel that there are issues with aspartame, and will, thus, stay away from diet sodas.
If you subscribe only to the things that have been officially proven through published scientific studies, and discount the value of holistic medicine, you will likely feel that aspartame is 100% safe.
OP: which category do you fall under?
Everyone else: we can stop arguing now because no one will convince anyone else they're wrong. Sound good?
Funny that you advocate buying into the realm of unproven holistic medicine, which is full of extracts and substances whose efficacy and long-term effects have not been studied, but reject something like aspartame which has been studied more than almost any other substance.
they absolutely have been studied, just not by the people YOU want them to have been studied by. :happy:
ORLY?
What controls were in place?
Double-blind?
What long term studies were conducted to show that there were no harmful effects?
Herbs have been used for many thousands of years. Harmful effects would have been noticed by now. There has been a fair bit of research done in Germany--where many physicians will prescribe an herb before a pharmaceutical.
Well dang, "herbs" must be awesome then. Effective natural medicine with no side effects! Awesome. Amazing that before modern medicine people died and were debilitated by all kinds of mundane stuff.0 -
yes it sure is, nutra sweet can cause migraines. it is better to drink regular coke or tea with no sugar. artifical sweetners are linked to cancer, migraine headaches etc
Peanuts are linked to anaphylactic shock.
Oncologists are linked to cancer
Scientific research is linked to premature mortality in mice.
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I drink wine everyday and I am ok.
ETA: But that diet coke **** will kill ya.
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yes it sure is, nutra sweet can cause migraines. it is better to drink regular coke or tea with no sugar. artifical sweetners are linked to cancer, migraine headaches etc
Peanuts are linked to anaphylactic shock.
Oncologists are linked to cancer
Scientific research is linked to premature mortality in mice.
Sale of ice cream is linked to crime.0 -
I'm not going to indulge your attempts to further derail the thread. I shouldn't have the first time. Instead I'll repost this:alright how about THIS:
If you are open to the world of holistic medicine, and see value in it, then you will likely feel that there are issues with aspartame, and will, thus, stay away from diet sodas.
If you subscribe only to the things that have been officially proven through published scientific studies, and discount the value of holistic medicine, you will likely feel that aspartame is 100% safe.
OP: which category do you fall under?
Everyone else: we can stop arguing now because no one will convince anyone else they're wrong. Sound good?
Funny that you advocate buying into the realm of unproven holistic medicine, which is full of extracts and substances whose efficacy and long-term effects have not been studied, but reject something like aspartame which has been studied more than almost any other substance.
they absolutely have been studied, just not by the people YOU want them to have been studied by. :happy:
ORLY?
What controls were in place?
Double-blind?
What long term studies were conducted to show that there were no harmful effects?
Herbs have been used for many thousands of years. Harmful effects would have been noticed by now. There has been a fair bit of research done in Germany--where many physicians will prescribe an herb before a pharmaceutical.
Well dang, "herbs" must be awesome then. Effective natural medicine with no side effects! Awesome. Amazing that before modern medicine people died and were debilitated by all kinds of mundane stuff.
And they are still doing that today. Does "antibiotic resistance" ring a bell? Modern medicine is not all it's cracked up to be.0 -
If the scale increases when you switch back from diet soda to water, it could be because of the sodium in your diet drinks. I don't drink soda at all, but I have noticed a HUGE difference in the scale when I've been eating saltier foods, even when I'm staying within my calorie range. The salt makes your body retain water, which could explain the increase on the scale.0
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My grandmother never drank it and she's 97, so the argument is invalid.I would like to introduce new research. Aspartame was approved for use in 1981. The average life expectancy has risen from 74 to 78.
Drink your diet soda everyone, Aspartame will extend your life! That's a diet coke my guy is holding.
:drinker:
Oh cripes...I don't actually drink diet soda...better start drinking it stat!
Phew!
Genetics
Damn...
Oh, that's actually ok, my grandmother is still alive and a very healthy 86 year old...she drinks like a fish...hmmmm, I where is that corkscrew?0 -
yes it sure is, nutra sweet can cause migraines. it is better to drink regular coke or tea with no sugar. artifical sweetners are linked to cancer, migraine headaches etc
Peanuts are linked to anaphylactic shock.
Oncologists are linked to cancer
Scientific research is linked to premature mortality in mice.
Sale of ice cream is linked to crime.
Coffee drinking is linked to heart disease. This is actually true.0 -
I'm not going to indulge your attempts to further derail the thread. I shouldn't have the first time. Instead I'll repost this:alright how about THIS:
If you are open to the world of holistic medicine, and see value in it, then you will likely feel that there are issues with aspartame, and will, thus, stay away from diet sodas.
If you subscribe only to the things that have been officially proven through published scientific studies, and discount the value of holistic medicine, you will likely feel that aspartame is 100% safe.
OP: which category do you fall under?
Everyone else: we can stop arguing now because no one will convince anyone else they're wrong. Sound good?
Funny that you advocate buying into the realm of unproven holistic medicine, which is full of extracts and substances whose efficacy and long-term effects have not been studied, but reject something like aspartame which has been studied more than almost any other substance.
they absolutely have been studied, just not by the people YOU want them to have been studied by. :happy:
ORLY?
What controls were in place?
Double-blind?
What long term studies were conducted to show that there were no harmful effects?
Herbs have been used for many thousands of years. Harmful effects would have been noticed by now. There has been a fair bit of research done in Germany--where many physicians will prescribe an herb before a pharmaceutical.
Well dang, "herbs" must be awesome then. Effective natural medicine with no side effects! Awesome. Amazing that before modern medicine people died and were debilitated by all kinds of mundane stuff.
And they are still doing that today. Does "antibiotic resistance" ring a bell? Modern medicine is not all it's cracked up to be.
Which herbs should I ask the resident at the ER to give me when I show up with pneumonia?0 -
If the scale increases when you switch back from diet soda to water, it could be because of the sodium in your diet drinks. I don't drink soda at all, but I have noticed a HUGE difference in the scale when I've been eating saltier foods, even when I'm staying within my calorie range. The salt makes your body retain water, which could explain the increase on the scale.
My can of diet soda here has 5 mg of sodium.
5 mg.0 -
My grandmother never drank it and she's 97, so the argument is invalid.I would like to introduce new research. Aspartame was approved for use in 1981. The average life expectancy has risen from 74 to 78.
Drink your diet soda everyone, Aspartame will extend your life! That's a diet coke my guy is holding.
:drinker:
Oh cripes...I don't actually drink diet soda...better start drinking it stat!
If she had access to diet soda, she would've lived to 110.0
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