Am I eating enough?

Hi,

I'm female, 28, 160.5lbs, 5ft 7", work at a desk, cycle to and from work (40 mins a day at 12-14mph) and run two to three times a week (one Parkrun - 3 miles and two other runs between 3 and 5 miles all at around the 9 minute mile mark, but improving!). MFP has set me at 1200 cals a day and I 'earn' at least around 400 more on a non-run day and more on the days I run. I rarely go over 1200 and if I do it's only by less than 100 or so. I have stuck religioulsly to logging etc etc.

Right. The problem is this. My weight loss is 10lbs since January 1st which I'm chuffed with and I know that because I'm not really really overweight that it will take longer to come off but I'm plateauing big time and getting really disheartened about it. I'm looking to get down to around 147lb. I'm reading a lot about BMP and TDEE and until MFP forums I had never come accross either. This site (http://scoobysworkshop.com) says my BMP is 1530 and my TDEE is 1836 and 20% below is therefore 1468 and that this should make me lose around 0.7lbs per week.

So am I eating enough? The thought of eating more goes against the grain but I just want to do what's best and feel quite inadequate to make that decision since I don't really know anything other than 'eat less, move more' to lose weight!!!

Any help appreciated from the more knowledgeable?!
«1

Replies

  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    What's your current bmi? Why have you chosen a goal of 147 pounds? As you admit, you're not overweight, and therefore weight loss will be slow - 10 pounds since January sounds great, why not just carry on as you've been doing?
  • mikeschratz
    mikeschratz Posts: 253 Member
    Aloha,
    Here is a spreadsheet that really helped me out. It will give you all your numbers and even help out with meal planning as far as calories go!
    Hope this helps you out! Download, use and share!

    https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B3kFzsaVmRjmd1k4YjA1SlVWaFU/edit?usp=sharing
  • FitMrsR
    FitMrsR Posts: 226 Member
    I'd eat the 1468 calories. Yes, the weight loss might be slower (maybe not) but its more sustainable in the long run. Plus, if you can eat more and still lose weight, why not?
  • Current BMI is 25.5 - apparently just overweight.

    I've chosen 147lbs because it would put my BMI in a better place and I know I look good at that weight - happy with what I look like ad confident but not too skinny. I got down to that before my wedding a few years ago but I did it by just not eating very much which isn't maintainable, so now I'm just trying to do it in a healthy, happy and maintainable way!
  • mowrie
    mowrie Posts: 3
    do a google search for a BMR checker. This is your Basal Metabolic Rate, and determines how many calories you should be eating. check this often as it will fluctuate.

    M
  • @mikeschratz - thanks... looking at it now.

    @perfecting_em - I know.. I'm wondering whether eating 1200 is slowing me down? MFP is always freaking out about starvation mode when I come in just below
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    That seems reasonable in terms of goal setting, though I find being overly precise on a final target can be frustrating - maybe make it "get under 150 pounds then re-assess".

    Where do you do your parkruns - I've just started in Wallace Park, Lisburn.
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
    Hi,

    I'm female, 28, 160.5lbs, 5ft 7", work at a desk, cycle to and from work (40 mins a day at 12-14mph) and run two to three times a week (one Parkrun - 3 miles and two other runs between 3 and 5 miles all at around the 9 minute mile mark, but improving!). MFP has set me at 1200 cals a day and I 'earn' at least around 400 more on a non-run day and more on the days I run. I rarely go over 1200 and if I do it's only by less than 100 or so. I have stuck religioulsly to logging etc etc.

    Right. The problem is this. My weight loss is 10lbs since January 1st which I'm chuffed with and I know that because I'm not really really overweight that it will take longer to come off but I'm plateauing big time and getting really disheartened about it. I'm looking to get down to around 147lb. I'm reading a lot about BMP and TDEE and until MFP forums I had never come accross either. This site (http://scoobysworkshop.com) says my BMP is 1530 and my TDEE is 1836 and 20% below is therefore 1468 and that this should make me lose around 0.7lbs per week.

    So am I eating enough? The thought of eating more goes against the grain but I just want to do what's best and feel quite inadequate to make that decision since I don't really know anything other than 'eat less, move more' to lose weight!!!

    Any help appreciated from the more knowledgeable?!

    If your BMR is 1530, your TDEE is not 1836. you have used a sedentary multiplier of 1.2, and you aren't sedentary doing that much exercise.

    To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:

    •If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
    •If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    •If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    •If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
    •If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9
  • matti07
    matti07 Posts: 93 Member
    Aloha,
    Here is a spreadsheet that really helped me out. It will give you all your numbers and even help out with meal planning as far as calories go!
    Hope this helps you out! Download, use and share!

    https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B3kFzsaVmRjmd1k4YjA1SlVWaFU/edit?usp=sharing

    Thank you for this! Not quite up to doing anything but MFP's suggestions, but I know that will change.

    helenlucyburn: I think everyone's right on target. The weeks that I ate up to my calories are the weeks that I seem to lose weight. YMMV.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    I would say eat at a 250-500 calorie deficit from your TDEE and eat back half of your exercise calories. Eating around your BMR is a safe bet for most people.

    Being so close to goal means that you have to be really careful with logging. Weigh food, measure free-pouring liquids. Enter your own recipes. Don't use entries from the database that are vague, like "one medium fruit" etc. Look for the entries with no asterisk because those are more accurate. Calorie counting is never going to be perfectly precise but you want it to be as precise as possible.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    If your BMR is 1530, your TDEE is not 1836. you have used a sedentary multiplier of 1.2, and you aren't sedentary doing that much exercise.

    To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:

    •If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
    •If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    •If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    •If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
    •If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

    I just want to add that if you use this method (with exercise figured into your TDEE) then you would not enter and eat back your exercise calories on MFP.
  • @AngelAmberL - Ah, I see, I didn't realise you took into account extra exercise - I was just thinking of my job! So if I stick with the BMR figure I've got I can still add the exercise into MFP - I like to as it keeps me on track and keeps a record and then if I don't manage a session my calorie allowance reflects it. So if I stick with my TDEE at 1836 the I should maybe change my calorie intake on MFP to 1450 and only eat back half my exercise calories?

    @melaniecheeks - I'm in the UK :)

    So in general, eating what I am won't slow down loss to any great extent?
  • Amanda241174
    Amanda241174 Posts: 38 Member
    I have only been logging for the last 5 weeks and lost 4kg in the first 1 1/2 weeks, but then hit a plateau. MFP also told me to eat 1200 cals a day. For the last 5 days I have increased my calorie intake to 1400 and have started to lose weight again :) Psychologically it was hard for me to increase my calorie intake as I didn't believe I could eat more and lose weight, but it really is working.
  • @Amanda241174 - I think this is what I need to do - thanks for the encouragement, just goes against the grain doesn't it?! After restricting and watching everything carefully to then eat more?!
  • frasergentles
    frasergentles Posts: 11 Member
    I incoporate significant exercise into my daily routine and I have been studying Anita Bean's Guide to Sports Nutrition.

    Calculate your RMR then factor in your activity level which will give you your daily calorie expenditure. I have done this manually using the formula in the guide but you can use a website for this. (I can get you the formula from the book when I get home)

    Factor in your exerise calories for the week so for me this is a minimum of 5000 exercise calories burned over the course of a week so 5000 / 7 = 714 exercise calories per day. (In reality I burn this over five days but levelling this out is better for your metabolism)

    Add this onto to your daily calorie expenditure and you have your maintenance rate i.e. to keep your weight the same for your level of activity.

    Now multiply this by 0.85 and this will give you your daily calorie intake optimised for fat loss. (note

    A key problem when losing weight using cardio is that you will lose both lean mass and body fat. To minimise this you want to do two things, as a minimum eat 1.6g of protein per kilo of body weight (not as hard as it sounds), this helps the body to maintain lean mass and ideally introduce some strength training into your programme, calisthenics is perfect, some sit ups, push ups, lunges that sort of thing. What this will do is ensure that the weight you lose is predominantly fat and your body composition will change. 0.5kg of extra lean mass will burn a n extra 50 calories per day (350 per week) and will tone you up!!

    Obtain your calories from the following:

    Carbohydrate - 60%
    Protien = ((1.6 x body weight)*4)/calorie intake for fat loss = ?%
    Fat = 100% - 60% - Protein % = ?%

    Enter all of these manually into myfitnesspal. Ignore the projected weight loss for now. (n.b. mfp will only let you select from a drop down list for percentage for protien etc.. soo if the above calculates at 18%, I suggest you select 20%, Fat is then obvisouly 20%. if 16% then slecte 15% and fat becomes 25%.

    If you want to log your exercises then fine, but log them and record 1 calorie against them (remember you have already taken the benefit of the exercise).

    Weight yourself fortnightly and recalibrate all of the stats to reflect your changing position.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    @AngelAmberL - Ah, I see, I didn't realise you took into account extra exercise - I was just thinking of my job! So if I stick with the BMR figure I've got I can still add the exercise into MFP - I like to as it keeps me on track and keeps a record and then if I don't manage a session my calorie allowance reflects it. So if I stick with my TDEE at 1836 the I should maybe change my calorie intake on MFP to 1450 and only eat back half my exercise calories?

    @melaniecheeks - I'm in the UK :)

    So in general, eating what I am won't slow down loss to any great extent?

    I don't personally like adding exercise into TDEE but a lot of people do. If you're really consistent then it might be a better approach. For me though, my burns can vary and the days I can get to the gym are inconsistent. So I set mine to lightly active and I enter my exercise separately. It's personal preference, as long as you don't eat them back twice it doesn't matter which method you use.

    Do you mean eating what you are in terms of calories?
  • @AngelAmberL - yes, eating what I am in calories currently (1200) could be slowing down the loss?
  • charliehefferon
    charliehefferon Posts: 223 Member
    IMO you're not eating enough...

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/912920-in-place-of-a-road-map-3-2013

    Read the above post - will help a lot!! I'm 5'1" 108lb and am eating 1500 - 1700 cals a day.
  • barbaratrollman
    barbaratrollman Posts: 317 Member
    bump
  • Phrick
    Phrick Posts: 2,765 Member
    I suggest you read this topic, it explains things so much better than I can, it addresses "when is 1200 calories appropriate?"

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/908271-when-is-1200-calories-appropriate-hint-almost-never
  • symonspatrick
    symonspatrick Posts: 213 Member
    I doubt that 1200 calories is slowing down your weight loss but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't eat more. It seems like 1500 to 1800 would be a healthier calorie intake and one in which you would still lose weight. Trying to lose 2 pounds per week when you are so close to your goal weight is pretty aggressive. 1/2 pound to 1 pound per week would be easier to maintain while getting enough calories to get good nutrition.
  • halimaiqbal00
    halimaiqbal00 Posts: 288 Member
    Im also 5' 7, weigh 149 pounds, 29 yrs old. In my opinion, youre not eating enough. Try upping your calories to 1500 and see how that goes...you will lose
  • Just as an update I've been eating 1500 now for a week and weighed in this morning for the first time - 1.75 pound loss - first loss for a long time! BOOM! Thanks for the advice everyone! 1500 it is!
  • 257_Lag
    257_Lag Posts: 1,249 Member
    Just as an update I've been eating 1500 now for a week and weighed in this morning for the first time - 1.75 pound loss - first loss for a long time! BOOM! Thanks for the advice everyone! 1500 it is!

    That's awesome! Glad it's working.

    Just for kicks you might try this TDEE calculator, it allows for a more detailed input of your daily activity:

    http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
  • KathyWel
    KathyWel Posts: 140
    Bump
  • Hi,
    i just saw that others have replied, but what i was going to tell you is about a success story article I once read about a woman who stuck with 1300 calories and plenty of exercise, but completely stopped losing. as soon as she jumped to 1600, the weight came off again at a steady pace. That always stuck in my memory when I've felt like crash dieting :) Glad the increase is working!
  • halimaiqbal00
    halimaiqbal00 Posts: 288 Member
    Just as an update I've been eating 1500 now for a week and weighed in this morning for the first time - 1.75 pound loss - first loss for a long time! BOOM! Thanks for the advice everyone! 1500 it is!

    Woohoo well done!
  • axialmeow
    axialmeow Posts: 382 Member
    I stalled out at 1200 calories. It wasn't enough. I lost at first but that stopped until I upped my calories. I also lost a ton of hair.
  • Bettyeditor
    Bettyeditor Posts: 327 Member
    @Amanda241174 - I think this is what I need to do - thanks for the encouragement, just goes against the grain doesn't it?! After restricting and watching everything carefully to then eat more?!

    Yes, SO MANY people struggle with this concept. That is "goes against the grain." So many people know they should eat more, see evidence/science that they should eat more, and yet don't eat more. Its an emotional battle. I'm not sure how to help you past it except to remind you of a few things that might give you perspective:

    1) If your TDEE is about 1850 (I'm rounding), you can eat that EVERY DAY and not gain weight. So why would you fear going from 1200 to 1400?
    2) if your TDEE is 1850, in order to gain even a half pound in a week, you would need to eat 2350 EVERY DAY all week. (It take an extra 500 calories a day to gain a half pound in one week)
    3) Since you know that it's physically impossible to gain weight as long as you eat less than you burn (1850), there is ZERO risk to eating 1400 even 1500.

    If you want to know why eating too few calories actually sabatoges your weight loss goals whereas eating a moderate deficit (moderate amount below TDEE, such as 20%) will accellerate weight loss, the simple answer is: HORMONES.

    Hormones have an enormous impact on weight loss. If you eat too little, you get the wrong hormones.
  • bearwith
    bearwith Posts: 525 Member
    I stuck to what mfp told me to eat and lost 18 pounds in about 3 months. Just follow it/