For all the girls/guys who talking about 1200 kcal max / day

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  • Agreed. 1,200kcals worked for me for a while until my body said hold up!! You're not feeding me? I'll hold on to your fatty fat and water and I hit a major plateau. Upped my calories to 1,500 next day the weight came right off.

    If your body were doing this, you would have gained on the 1500 for a minute, not had it come right off the next day. With that said, if 1500 works for you, there's no reason to eat 1200. Just wanting to point out that it was likely coincidence or all water, not fat so other people in a plateau don't automatically assume they have to up their calories. Some people really do need to up, but others don't and find themselves really frustrated and confused that it doesn't end up working for them.

    not necessarily-- low calorie diets = higher cortisol levels. Higher cortisol = water retention. Therefore, higher calories = less cortisol = less water weight = loss on the scale.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member

    not necessarily-- low calorie diets = higher cortisol levels. Higher cortisol = water retention. Therefore, higher calories = less cortisol = less water weight = loss on the scale.

    Right--she didn't lose fat overnight from a 300 calorie increase. I absolutely believe she was retaining water, for one reason or another.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member

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    does this freak anyone else out? owls are the new clowns....


    ETA: srs.. i cant stop watching this and being freaked out.... stupid owls... its captivating
  • charliemarie923
    charliemarie923 Posts: 275 Member
    I have been looking at this post, and other posts and had increased my total daily cal allowance from 1200 to 1512, which is my BMR. My TDEE is 1,872 but im not prepared to increase it that much....

    will this hinder my weight loss?

    charlie
  • I have been looking at this post, and other posts and had increased my total daily cal allowance from 1200 to 1512, which is my BMR. My TDEE is 1,872 but im not prepared to increase it that much....

    will this hinder my weight loss?

    charlie

    hinder? Well, you'll have a deficit of 1872-1512 = 360. So you'll lose ~3 pounds each month.
  • charliemarie923
    charliemarie923 Posts: 275 Member
    I have been looking at this post, and other posts and had increased my total daily cal allowance from 1200 to 1512, which is my BMR. My TDEE is 1,872 but im not prepared to increase it that much....

    will this hinder my weight loss?

    charlie

    hinder? Well, you'll have a deficit of 1872-1512 = 360. So you'll lose ~3 pounds each month.

    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    I have been looking at this post, and other posts and had increased my total daily cal allowance from 1200 to 1512, which is my BMR. My TDEE is 1,872 but im not prepared to increase it that much....

    will this hinder my weight loss?

    charlie

    hinder? Well, you'll have a deficit of 1872-1512 = 360. So you'll lose ~3 pounds each month.

    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!
    One pound of fat = 3500 calories. So 3500 / your deficit = days to lose one pound. 360 goes into 3500 9.7 times, so you'd lose approx one pound every 9.7 days.

    Once you get close to goal your body isn't going to just lose 2 pounds of fat per week. You can lose 2 pounds but it's not going to be all fat. If your goal is to move a number on a scale with no regard for anything else, even if it means you shed muscle, then by all means go with a big deficit. But don't expect to be very happy with the results. Otherwise you need to slow down on the loss and be patient.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!

    Just wanted to take issue with this comment. Three pounds a month is certainly *not* nothing. It's 36 pounds a year. It's over a hundred pounds in three years. Is it fast and flashy? Absolutely not...but it's consistent, sustainable, and is more likely to allow one to keep LBM while losing the fat.

    Unless you have a photo shoot or a wedding or something similar scheduled in X weeks, there really is no good reason that you need to lose X pounds by some arbitrary deadline.
  • onyxgirl17
    onyxgirl17 Posts: 1,722 Member
    I have been looking at this post, and other posts and had increased my total daily cal allowance from 1200 to 1512, which is my BMR. My TDEE is 1,872 but im not prepared to increase it that much....

    will this hinder my weight loss?

    charlie

    hinder? Well, you'll have a deficit of 1872-1512 = 360. So you'll lose ~3 pounds each month.

    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!

    I've lost an average of 3 lbs a month... which is 36 pounds over the last year. That's "nothing"? Really?

    Stop acting like this is a race. Your body will thank you for it.
  • charliemarie923
    charliemarie923 Posts: 275 Member
    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!

    Just wanted to take issue with this comment. Three pounds a month is certainly *not* nothing. It's 36 pounds a year. It's over a hundred pounds in three years. Is it fast and flashy? Absolutely not...but it's consistent, sustainable, and is more likely to allow one to keep LBM while losing the fat.

    Unless you have a photo shoot or a wedding or something similar scheduled in X weeks, there really is no good reason that you need to lose X pounds by some arbitrary deadline.

    I said it is nothing to me. ive lost a pound since 3 days ago, without even being on a diet for one of those days, so why would i be happy with losing one pound is 9.7 days i think someone said? It may satisfy you but not me. We all have different expectations, goals and realities...
  • onyxgirl17
    onyxgirl17 Posts: 1,722 Member
    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!

    Just wanted to take issue with this comment. Three pounds a month is certainly *not* nothing. It's 36 pounds a year. It's over a hundred pounds in three years. Is it fast and flashy? Absolutely not...but it's consistent, sustainable, and is more likely to allow one to keep LBM while losing the fat.

    Unless you have a photo shoot or a wedding or something similar scheduled in X weeks, there really is no good reason that you need to lose X pounds by some arbitrary deadline.

    I said it is nothing to me. ive lost a pound since 3 days ago, without even being on a diet for one of those days, so why would i be happy with losing one pound is 9.7 days i think someone said? It may satisfy you but not me. We all have different expectations, goals and realities...

    Your bodies expectations and your minds expectations might happen to be two different things. The "lose weight quick or don't lose weight at all" might work for you... for now. Patience is what pays off in the long run though. To each their own though.
  • ximills
    ximills Posts: 37 Member
    I like to eat food. I workout (or just live an active life) and eat back all the cals. My weight (avg) stays the same-ish and my body looks better and I feel more awesome. WIN
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!

    Just wanted to take issue with this comment. Three pounds a month is certainly *not* nothing. It's 36 pounds a year. It's over a hundred pounds in three years. Is it fast and flashy? Absolutely not...but it's consistent, sustainable, and is more likely to allow one to keep LBM while losing the fat.

    Unless you have a photo shoot or a wedding or something similar scheduled in X weeks, there really is no good reason that you need to lose X pounds by some arbitrary deadline.

    I said it is nothing to me. ive lost a pound since 3 days ago, without even being on a diet for one of those days, so why would i be happy with losing one pound is 9.7 days i think someone said? It may satisfy you but not me. We all have different expectations, goals and realities...

    If you're consistently losing a pound every three days, then why change what you're doing? That's ten pounds per month.

    I suspect the answer is because you *don't* consistently lose a pound every three days...which is my point. Slow consistent loss over time is far more important than fast sporadic loss over a short period of time.

    But I'm not trying to convince you you're wrong right now. I'm just posting this so you (and others) can look back at this three or four months from now with the likelihood of a better understanding of what I'm saying.
  • jeslaughter
    jeslaughter Posts: 131 Member
    Yes..I'm new and uneducated about this so..... My calorie intake I have been given is 1560. Most days I do not eat that much. Close but not 1560. So...on the days I exercise I should eat more?

    Example: Today I've eaten 1243 calories. I have burned 413 calories. So I need to eat 413 more calories at least?

    If that's the case I won't be able to exercise because I can not eat that many calories.

    You must be careful that your calories do not already include your exercise!! I have my activity level at inactive so that any exercise I do is extra calories I can eat for the day. I try to eat at least my suggested calories daily then if I go up to at least half of my exercise calories too, no big deal..I try very hard not to ever go over my suggested and exercise calories because I really want to lose at least 2 pound per week.
  • charliemarie923
    charliemarie923 Posts: 275 Member
    I dont think you will convince me im wrong. My profile picture is me at what my goal weight is now. I lost that weight quickly and easily by eating very little high cal / sugar/carb foods and diet pop and working in a manually demanding job. I remained at that weight for 2 years and was extremely happy. Then i had a change of med and my appetite spiralled out of control. So i think this way does work for ME and its the way im happy with.
  • AnneU93
    AnneU93 Posts: 114 Member
    I didnt come up with my 1200 cals a day target, i entered my information and thats what this site told me to do.
    I didnt lower my target or cheat the information.
    There must be some logic for that being my goal intake, no?

    charlie

    Did you read the thread you started earlier about your calorie goals?




    About the BMR and TDEE? yes i did. BUT i still dont get why this site would recommend 1200 cals for no reason if BMR is the minimum you can have to survive and that is significantly higher. And i am also trying to make the point that i didnt chose 1200 cals myself .
    charlie


    As far as I have gathered MFP doesn't consider your height nor body fat and therefore many get 1200 calories without exercise as a goal.
  • jeslaughter
    jeslaughter Posts: 131 Member
    Yes..I'm new and uneducated about this so..... My calorie intake I have been given is 1560. Most days I do not eat that much. Close but not 1560. So...on the days I exercise I should eat more?

    Example: Today I've eaten 1243 calories. I have burned 413 calories. So I need to eat 413 more calories at least?

    If that's the case I won't be able to exercise because I can not eat that many calories.

    I mean no disrespect with this question, but how in the world did you end up overweight and needing to lose weight if you are unable to eat ~1600 calories?

    UH...THAT IS RUDE WHETHER YOU SAY SO OR NOT...how the heck did any of use get overweight....yes, it did not just happen..but I know that eating correct and healthy foods is much less calories than eating hamburgers and fries at 2800+ calories is a huge difference!!!
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    Yes..I'm new and uneducated about this so..... My calorie intake I have been given is 1560. Most days I do not eat that much. Close but not 1560. So...on the days I exercise I should eat more?

    Example: Today I've eaten 1243 calories. I have burned 413 calories. So I need to eat 413 more calories at least?

    If that's the case I won't be able to exercise because I can not eat that many calories.

    I mean no disrespect with this question, but how in the world did you end up overweight and needing to lose weight if you are unable to eat ~1600 calories?

    UH...THAT IS RUDE WHETHER YOU SAY SO OR NOT...how the heck did any of use get overweight....yes, it did not just happen..but I know that eating correct and healthy foods is much less calories than eating hamburgers and fries at 2800+ calories is a huge difference!!!

    I think he's just trying to point out that none of us trying to lose weight are here because we couldn't eat 1600 cals. He wasn't being rude at all. Try eating some higher calories foods to meet your goal, nuts, peanut butter, and avocado. Just eat a small amount of higher calorie food and wham - you've just netted your goal calories. You can still eat some "unhealthy" food as long as you hit your calorie target.

    Also where are you eating that a hamburger and fries are 2800 calories?
  • onyxgirl17
    onyxgirl17 Posts: 1,722 Member
    Yes..I'm new and uneducated about this so..... My calorie intake I have been given is 1560. Most days I do not eat that much. Close but not 1560. So...on the days I exercise I should eat more?

    Example: Today I've eaten 1243 calories. I have burned 413 calories. So I need to eat 413 more calories at least?

    If that's the case I won't be able to exercise because I can not eat that many calories.

    I mean no disrespect with this question, but how in the world did you end up overweight and needing to lose weight if you are unable to eat ~1600 calories?

    UH...THAT IS RUDE WHETHER YOU SAY SO OR NOT...how the heck did any of use get overweight....yes, it did not just happen..but I know that eating correct and healthy foods is much less calories than eating hamburgers and fries at 2800+ calories is a huge difference!!!

    o...k...
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Yes..I'm new and uneducated about this so..... My calorie intake I have been given is 1560. Most days I do not eat that much. Close but not 1560. So...on the days I exercise I should eat more?

    Example: Today I've eaten 1243 calories. I have burned 413 calories. So I need to eat 413 more calories at least?

    If that's the case I won't be able to exercise because I can not eat that many calories.

    I mean no disrespect with this question, but how in the world did you end up overweight and needing to lose weight if you are unable to eat ~1600 calories?

    UH...THAT IS RUDE WHETHER YOU SAY SO OR NOT...how the heck did any of use get overweight....yes, it did not just happen..but I know that eating correct and healthy foods is much less calories than eating hamburgers and fries at 2800+ calories is a huge difference!!!

    I won't argue with you about whether or not my comment could be construed as rude...(as MFP has demonstrated, no comment is immune from being interpreted as "rude")...but I will say that I believe you completely missed the point of my post.

    I can also safely say that I do not understand your post at all. What are "correct and healthy foods"? And what are these burgers and fries at 2800+ calories about? Why the extremes? Personally, if given a choice between eating only "correct and healthy foods" but not exercising and eating *some* burgers and fries to make up the difference and exercising, I know which choice I would make.

    Hopefully, most everyone else understood the point in my original post.

    ETA: I see that others posted while I was composing this that lead me to believe that my point may not have been completely lost.
  • izzylew
    izzylew Posts: 30
    omg my ex bf did this!! and lost 200 lbs and still does it, he refuses to listen to any other info and will only eat one meal a day, SO BAD!
    MFP told me 1500 to lose weight but i changed it to 1400 its the least i can do w/o feeling hungry i think if i did any less i would die haha
    also add me i'm new and need encouraging friends!!!
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    UH...THAT IS RUDE WHETHER YOU SAY SO OR NOT...how the heck did any of use get overweight....yes, it did not just happen..but I know that eating correct and healthy foods is much less calories than eating hamburgers and fries at 2800+ calories is a huge difference!!!
    No, it is a legitimate question. I do find your screaming in response to be rude though.

    Anyway, your answer is a false dichotomy. It's not like you are forced to choose between a leaf of lettuce and a celery stick, or a 2800 calorie burger and fries, and there are no other meal choices that one could possibly make. That's completely absurd.

    Making ridiculous and extreme food choices is how many people get to be overweight. If your answer to that is to "go on a diet" and it's so restrictive that you can't even get in a minimum of calories, then you're just going from one extreme, ridiculous, and unhealthy way of eating to yet another extreme, ridiculous, and unhealthy way of eating.
  • dangerousdumpling
    dangerousdumpling Posts: 1,109 Member
    I dont think you will convince me im wrong. My profile picture is me at what my goal weight is now. I lost that weight quickly and easily by eating very little high cal / sugar/carb foods and diet pop and working in a manually demanding job. I remained at that weight for 2 years and was extremely happy. Then i had a change of med and my appetite spiralled out of control. So i think this way does work for ME and its the way im happy with.

    If you're happy with what you're doing then why do you keep coming back to these threads? Are you waiting for someone to come along and tell you you've made the right choice by eating under your BMR?
  • NRSPAM
    NRSPAM Posts: 961 Member
    I have been looking at this post, and other posts and had increased my total daily cal allowance from 1200 to 1512, which is my BMR. My TDEE is 1,872 but im not prepared to increase it that much....

    will this hinder my weight loss?

    charlie

    hinder? Well, you'll have a deficit of 1872-1512 = 360. So you'll lose ~3 pounds each month.

    Thats a yes then ! Three pounds a month is nothing. to me anyway. My weight fluctuates by around 2lbs every couple of days. Ugh i wanna cry. Im looking to lose double that. I know youre probably sick of all my questions now, but how did u know that i would lose 3lbs a month from a deficit of 360? I swear im not as thick as i appear, just very uneducated in all this!

    Somebody may have answered this for you already, but it takes 3,500 cal's to burn 1lb of fat. So 360 deficit/day = -2,520/week, and 10,080/mo. Divide that by 3,500 = 2.8lb's/mo. :) Really not bad! Also, I would get a body fat analysis done, to have the most accurate TDEE calculation. Once you have done that, here is a good calculator site. http://femalemuscle.com/nutrition/calculate.html I've seen people mention the scooby calculator a lot lately, also. Good luck! :)
  • charliemarie923
    charliemarie923 Posts: 275 Member
    I dont think you will convince me im wrong. My profile picture is me at what my goal weight is now. I lost that weight quickly and easily by eating very little high cal / sugar/carb foods and diet pop and working in a manually demanding job. I remained at that weight for 2 years and was extremely happy. Then i had a change of med and my appetite spiralled out of control. So i think this way does work for ME and its the way im happy with.

    If you're happy with what you're doing then why do you keep coming back to these threads? Are you waiting for someone to come along and tell you you've made the right choice by eating under your BMR?

    If you actually read the post it says i have increased my cal goal to that of my BMR but was unwilling to increase it to the levels of my TDEE. And i come here so i can make INFORMED choices. If i still choose to ignore the advice thats up to me
    and that was in the past i want to do it differently this time
  • Even with a medical condition it does not eliminate exercise completely. You just have to adapt and adjust the plan to your condition and besides walking is the best exercise for whatever ails you and it is free. Anywho with all my medical conditions I find water aerobics works well for me and I take short walks daily. I may take 30 5 minute walks, because of nerve damage, but I get it in and I have lost 16 pounds since January 2013. I have to take one day at a time. Some days the my pain is too intense to workout and some days I eat like a pig, but through it all I get back up and start all over.
  • charliemarie923
    charliemarie923 Posts: 275 Member
    Even with a medical condition it does not eliminate exercise completely. You just have to adapt and adjust the plan to your condition and besides walking is the best exercise for whatever ails you and it is free. Anywho with all my medical conditions I find water aerobics works well for me and I take short walks daily. I may take 30 5 minute walks, because of nerve damage, but I get it in and I have lost 16 pounds since January 2013. I have to take one day at a time. Some days the my pain is too intense to workout and some days I eat like a pig, but through it all I get back up and start all over.


    You sound really commited and im glad youre making progress. I think ive been getting my exercise levels wrong...liek today i walked into town (only 5min away) but then walked back which is up a hill, but i havent recorded it, because i thought that it was so insignificant, but i guess like you said, all the 5 mins mount up dont they. Well done and keep going.
  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
    I am still wondering if there is something more to the"eat more to weigh less" idea. How much more does one eat? How long until this works? What type of calories are you eating more of? Protein? Fat? Carbs? What? If so many people say that this works, I would like to know how it works and why. It has never worked for me, but is that because it simply doesn't work for me? Or is it because I did not do it the right way? Really, do shed some non-sarcastic, non-condescending light here.
  • jennmariepantoja
    jennmariepantoja Posts: 145 Member
    Not much for me to discuss on here other than to say I agree. He's talking about a very extreme case. Some on MFP are....some aren't. Many people on MFP who eat a VLCD are simply new and uneducated. But they will hopefully get the right info (before 4 years passes!!) to start a healthy lifestyle. In the case he's describing Elliott is right! Yo Elliott!!!!! :heart:

    I regularly eat 1200 in one meal!!!
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    WHAT is that owl eating in that video?! I din't know an owl could do that O.o
  • kathyfronk1
    kathyfronk1 Posts: 4 Member
    Well, Im in a program, monitored by doctors, at 600 calories a day. Today fitness pal says Im at 325 cal for the day because I do walk. My next blood test and DR visit is this coming week. I feel fine, its working, its DR managed. I will be transitioned to regular meals when I am closer to goal weight.