Extremely overweight member needing help
vokesie
Posts: 8
Hi everyone,
I am needing some help, encouragement, guidance with my fitness and diet.
I am currently looking to loose a lot of weight about 70kgs, mainly for my own benefits but also for my doctor who is insistent that I get down to my BMI weight or he will refuse to treat me for any illness that may be obesity related if I was to occur any.
I have altered and now eat between 1500-1750 calories a day and exercising 3 times a week however the last couple of weeks I haven't lost anything and starting to become demotivated,
My exercise program is as follows:-
30 mins x-trainer at level 5 heart rate 150-160
30 mins treadmill at 5.6kph 2%incline keeping heart rate at about 145-150
2sets of 15reps of the following
Peck deck
Leg press
Chest press
Seated Row
Leg raise
Leg curl
Shoulder press
Lat pull down
Hip extension
Hip abductor
Bicep curl
Tricep dip
30 min treadmill 140-150bpm 5.6kpm 2%incline
Ab crunches
Back extension
My main aim is weight loss and need to lose the 70kgs, the fact my clothes are loose is a good sign but not showing much process on the Schlesinger have lost 11kgs so far
Any help will be appreciated
Regards
I am needing some help, encouragement, guidance with my fitness and diet.
I am currently looking to loose a lot of weight about 70kgs, mainly for my own benefits but also for my doctor who is insistent that I get down to my BMI weight or he will refuse to treat me for any illness that may be obesity related if I was to occur any.
I have altered and now eat between 1500-1750 calories a day and exercising 3 times a week however the last couple of weeks I haven't lost anything and starting to become demotivated,
My exercise program is as follows:-
30 mins x-trainer at level 5 heart rate 150-160
30 mins treadmill at 5.6kph 2%incline keeping heart rate at about 145-150
2sets of 15reps of the following
Peck deck
Leg press
Chest press
Seated Row
Leg raise
Leg curl
Shoulder press
Lat pull down
Hip extension
Hip abductor
Bicep curl
Tricep dip
30 min treadmill 140-150bpm 5.6kpm 2%incline
Ab crunches
Back extension
My main aim is weight loss and need to lose the 70kgs, the fact my clothes are loose is a good sign but not showing much process on the Schlesinger have lost 11kgs so far
Any help will be appreciated
Regards
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Looking at the amount of exercise that you're doing, you are losing fat but gaining muscle weight, which is good and I want to say "kudo's" to you and keep up the awesome work!!!:happy:0
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Don't get discouraged. The first couple of weeks are usually good for weight loss as you drop a lot of water weight. What are you eating?0
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Would it be best to stop the weights all together as the aim is weight loss not muscle gain
Thanks for your comments though0 -
Nah dude, the aim is fat loss, not weight loss.
What you're doing is awesome.0 -
Sorry but the aim is weight loss I have to get down to 70kgs which is the top end of my BMI this is what my dr has said so yes I agree fat loss is important but I do have to loose the weight too0
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If you lose 70kgs of fat and put on 20kgs of muscle you will be an enormous amount fitter and healthier than if you just lost 70kgs of fat.0
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And to some extent I totally agree with you but sadly it's my dr that has stated that if I don't get down to my target weight I won't be treated because of my weight and will be considered as a obesity related illness0
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And to some extent I totally agree with you but sadly it's my dr that has stated that if I don't get down to my target weight I won't be treated because of my weight and will be considered as a obesity related illness
If your doctor actually said this, find a new doctor.
Good luck on your journey.0 -
Sadly This is the view of my dr, he is a believer of the BMI scale and every time I go in there he always mention my weight and what I need to lose to be "on Target" and then talks about how it would affect decisions if I ever needed surgery,0
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Don't get discouraged. The first couple of weeks are usually good for weight loss as you drop a lot of water weight. What are you eating?
Breakfast
porridge 239cals
Banana 161cals
Lunch
Chicken sandwich 300 cals
Apple 100cals
Dinner
Filled pasta 400 cals
Peas 75cals
Snacks of
2 x apples
Pepsi max0 -
You need to sit down and have a serious talk with your doctor. If he is focused only on BMI then he is missing something. Body Fat Indices are much more accurate in predicting obesity related problems. If you are losing fat but gaining muscle you are headed in the right direction. Muscle burns more calories and therefore the more you add the better it is for you. Look, for instance at body builders. Many weigh 250+ lbs but would not be considered obese because theer is little or no body fat. If your doctor isn't interested then perhaps it is time to look elsewhere.0
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Thank you RMD135, I have tried asking my Dr about the weight loss muscle gain, and each time he refers to the BMI he even used the well toned male who weighs 90kg and 5'7" tall could be considered and overweight and nearing obese,
I have shown my dr my fitness plan and diet, just took one look and handed me the British heart foundation diet sheet and told me to follow that,
I am just confused with it all, I thought I was on the right track and I haven't lost anything over the last few weeks0 -
Seriously get a new doctor, yours sounds like an absolute tool who has little and no interest in their patients.0
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If you have the option, I would consider another doctor. Or perhaps a good, licenced nutritionist. Ideally, a diabetic diet is a really good weight loss diet. It is one that is low in carbs and encourages lean proteins and fiber. It would be a good place to start. Good luck.0
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If you have the option, I would consider another doctor. Or perhaps a good, licenced nutritionist. Ideally, a diabetic diet is a really good weight loss diet. It is one that is low in carbs and encourages lean proteins and fiber. It would be a good place to start. Good luck.
He's in the UK so all he has to do is go and register with another GP which is very easy unless you live in a small village with only one and can't go to another place.0 -
Good luck! Feel free to add me as a friend and we can cheer each other on, I have a lot to lose too (75-100lbs)!
I would STRONGLY encourage you to focus on measurements. In the last few months I've lost two inches around my waist AND gained a few pounds! I just think to myself... I don't care if the scale says I weigh 1,000 lbs as long as I am wearing a size small!0 -
Hello,
One thing my trainer told me to do is mix it up so my body doesn't get use to my exercise routine. Every two months I change my routine. Simple - as if your doing biceps with free weight change to cables. Just a different way of doing the same exercise.
Go to BodyBuilding.com, then click on workouts, pick your muscle target and WaLa!!!!
It gives you all kinds of different ways to work that muscle.
I count up weight when I do weights, but I know some count down. I start with light and with each circuit do a little heavier weight. Men are suppose to push heaviest weight on last circuit to muscle fatigue I guess. At least that's what all the body builders at my gym told me.
Also goes for cardio, you need to change that up too.
Remember eating is 80% of the battle. I still struggle with it but day by day it gets better and it will for you too. Just keep going and don't look back!!!!!0 -
Bodybuilding.com
Click on workouts then exercises and last exercise guides. Sorry kinda hard to find if you don't know.
Also free to join0 -
Dont stop the work with weights. Building muscle will actually help you burn fat more effectively. Sounds like you are doing just great...hang in there!0
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If you haven't lost any weight in the last 3 weeks yet you are working out like you say you are then diet has to be the missing link. I looked at your diary and its not filled out. How do you know you are eating your calories goal if your not tracking and measuring it? You say you want to lose 70kg (150 ish lbs) so I would think that with just following a healthy eating plan alone you would be dropping weight.0
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The last 3/4 days I haven't filled it in due to a phone issue and not being by a computer but this is my daily food diary for a gym da
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/vokesie?date=2013-03-26
And for a non gym day
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/vokesie?date=2013-03-250 -
Just wondering if you"ve had the opportunity to seek the help of another healthcare professional in your weight loss effort? I really concerned about the obvious lack of concern byyour own doctor. I just wanted you to know I haven't forgotten about you.:flowerforyou:0
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Firstly, your doctor CANNOT refuse to treat you. We're not in an insurance type situation here, they don't get to choose what they do and do not treat. If you have an obesity related problem that is effecting your health, they MUST treat you. Just remember that. Also, if need be, go in and see a different doctor, you don't even have to change surgeries, just ask at reception for a different doctor.
Secondly, remember that this is a long term change, focus on composition rather than scale number. Building muscle won't harm your weight loss, not at your weight. Muscle burns more calories so will aid you in the long run. Even if you don't reach some magic number, the doctor will have to appreciate a change in your shape and body fat percentage, and if he doesn't - change doctors and complain about him, he shouldn't be advising patients if he can't appreciate the difference between fat and muscle.
It took me TWO years to lose 50lbs, some months I lost no weight at all, but you have to keep going, eventually, if you're doing the right things, the weight WILL come off, it has to. Make sure you're completely honest with your logging, log every bite you eat, every drink you drink and weigh out your food, it's amazing how much people overestimate their portion sizes. Watching your calories and exercising does work, remember that!0 -
Nah dude, the aim is fat loss, not weight loss.
What you're doing is awesome.
True!
In my humble opinion your doctor was trying to keep it simple. You have to lose a lot of weight and he didn't want to make it more complicated than it needs to be. Eat less, move more and argue the toss about BMI versus Body fat % when you're a lot closer to goal. It's just a guess, but I think he was just spouting a scare tactic to get you to do something - anything than come back to him in 6 months with the onset of type two diabetes. Which of course he would have to treat....... after all it is the NHS0 -
And to some extent I totally agree with you but sadly it's my dr that has stated that if I don't get down to my target weight I won't be treated because of my weight and will be considered as a obesity related illness
If your doctor actually said this, find a new doctor.
Good luck on your journey.
^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^ :flowerforyou:0 -
11kg is great and you're doing very well! It's not going to come off quickly, and you don't want it too in the long run. And, your doc is right- getting the weight off IS important, but they are wrong in that it IS fat loss you want. You WANT to build muscle because that's how your body will burn fat and calories and get your metabolism in check for long-term success.
Be easy on yourself. You're doing great and you should feel that you're doing great! Don't let anyone make you feel that you aren't because that 70kg hasn't magically vanished a few weeks in. I've lost 26kg and it's taken me since last July. So breathe and keep doing what you're doing
PS- your doc is a schmuck for telling you he'd refuse to treat you. Also, I'm sure that's illegal.0 -
It's so true! Move more, eat less! Eat healthier. Lean meats, like fish and boneless, skinless chicken breast. No fried foods, no fast food, and get up and get moving. Doesn't matter what you do. I've recently realized how many calories I burn just being on my feet, cooking, cleaning, and playing with my kids, rather than parking it in front of a computer or TV. Of course walking, or some other sort of vigorous activity is needed too, atleast 30 min's/day, but if you need to, you can work up to it. Lots of fruits and veggies, eat often, 2-3 hours, but keep it healthy. Once you start to see a good deal of weight loss, you can OCCASIONALLY add SOME fried/fast foods. Look up healthy recipes online. There are some under the recipe topic in the forums also. Good luck!!!0
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A loss is a loss...weather it be fat or weight...keep up the great work and you'll reach your goal!0
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Keep doing the weights.
If you are eating at a deficit (which you are), then you won't gain significant muscle mass - maybe a little at first, especially because you're pretty overweight, but nothing that would affect your overall weight loss (number on the scale) by any significant amount: you cannot increase muscle mass significantly on a caloric deficit.
What weight training WILL do, however, is help you preserve your existing lean body mass so that you lose FAT not MUSCLE. You will enjoy the benefits of added strength (totally possible without actual muscle tissue gain) and a higher metabolism, as well as a more aesthetically pleasing result.
You and your doctor will both get the results you want, though I must agree with the others: your doctor is an *kitten*.
ETA: you may want to reconsider your calorie intake. Calculate your TDEE and aim for -20% or so of that. You may be eating too low for your current weight and exercise. (I'm much smaller than you and eat about 2000-2150/day).0 -
Absolutely agree with this. And just keep doing what you're doing. I get the doctor is a BMI freak, and that's fine, because if you keep doing what you're doing, the scales WILL go down. Just realize you have a long way to go. Look at your weight loss as a journey, not as a 15 minute to the store. You'll get there, and when your doctor begins to see the "new you" take shape, then even he will be a believer. If not, screw him. You won't be having any health problems then anyway and won't need him!
Just do it!Hello,
One thing my trainer told me to do is mix it up so my body doesn't get use to my exercise routine. Every two months I change my routine. Simple - as if your doing biceps with free weight change to cables. Just a different way of doing the same exercise.
Go to BodyBuilding.com, then click on workouts, pick your muscle target and WaLa!!!!
It gives you all kinds of different ways to work that muscle.
I count up weight when I do weights, but I know some count down. I start with light and with each circuit do a little heavier weight. Men are suppose to push heaviest weight on last circuit to muscle fatigue I guess. At least that's what all the body builders at my gym told me.
Also goes for cardio, you need to change that up too.
Remember eating is 80% of the battle. I still struggle with it but day by day it gets better and it will for you too. Just keep going and don't look back!!!!!0
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